My brother is sitting in an emergency room in Edmonton with a twelve hour wait they just gave him after being rushed to the hospital by ambulance ...

[excalibur]

And here we have the Canadian immigration council, whatever it is, advertising to foreigners about free healthcare.

Canada is so screwed. Let us not follow them down this path.

 

[Cougarbear]

All these people who want universal healthcare simply do not understand what that means and what will happen when they need emergency care. They will wait 6 months for an appendectomy and be dead by then. Look, these liberal Democrats are the same people who were pushing population controls back in the 1960's. They couldn't get what they wanted like kill off 90% of the world. So, they have tried many things like global warming, planned parenthood and fewer children, climate change and now, Covid19, universal healthcare. Universal healthcare will kill off hundreds of millions of people. Maybe billions.

 

[MarathonMike]

B-B-But I thought Canadian Health Care was FREE???? That has to better right???

 

[Polishprince]

All these people who want universal healthcare simply do not understand what that means and what will happen when they need emergency care. They will wait 6 months for an appendectomy and be dead by then. Look, these liberal Democrats are the same people who were pushing population controls back in the 1960's. They couldn't get what they wanted like kill off 90% of the world. So, they have tried many things like global warming, planned parenthood and fewer children, climate change and now, Covid19, universal healthcare. Universal healthcare will kill off hundreds of millions of people. Maybe billions.

What would freak out Americans even more is how these Risky Socialized medicine schemes push off less urgent medical needs, and how quickly they deny coverage.

I heard people complain about the price of Ozempic in America and how much cheaper it is abroad.

But they don't give it to their patients. America used 2/3 of the world's supply of Ozempic.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What would freak out Americans even more is how these Risky Socialized medicine schemes push off less urgent medical needs, and how quickly they deny coverage.

I heard people complain about the price of Ozempic in America and how much cheaper it is abroad.

But they don't give it to their patients. America used 2/3 of the world's supply of Ozempic.

That is some good shit! I am not even on it for weight loss and I am down about 15 pounds. I don't usually get hungry for a long time.

 

[Dekster]

IDK I know a man whose wife dropped dead in the ER after about 8 hours sitting there. Her complaint was abdominal pain/indigestion so I suppose as far as triage, that might have been a tad generic compared to whoever else was there or came in with other complaints. Our hospital sucks anyway which is why my wife has always refused to work there.

 

[excalibur]

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Okay, let's dial it back a bit here on medical treatment.
1. When you go into an actual emergency room (not a doc-in-the-box clinic), you are faced with a triage situation. You are "triaged" based upon both what you tell them and your appearance. The more serious patients, even those that came in after you arrived, go first. For instance, based upon the described symptoms, a likely heart attack (forget Hollywood's depiction of someone having a heart attack) will be taken back as quickly as possible and you, if you have say, a few broken bones will go after him/her. A large laceration that required a tourniquet will go ahead of your flu or broken arm or ankle or leg. If you came in with a bad cold or flu, guess what, you will be waiting a long time.
I went into an emergency room with abdominal pain; after waiting around for an hour, a nurse interviewed me and had a tech come down and draw my blood. After another hour, they came out and rushed me to surgery for a ruptured appendix. The problem with emergency rooms and even the "doc-in-a-box" places, is that too many people go in with colds, mild cases of the flu, headaches, twisted ankles and bruises. Add to that there's a percentage of "drug seekers" looking to get a fix and an assortment of the mentally ill individuals having psychotic episodes.
All this these take hours to wade through.
I have heard that France has an extremely pro-active socialized medicine system that their people were very satisfied with. However, since the influx of millions of migrants it has ruined that system.
Socialized medicine systems are designed with the established population base in mind and grow proportionally with the "slow gradual" growth of the population and aren't meant to handle huge influxes of individuals seeking treatment.

 

[Votto]

B-B-But I thought Canadian Health Care was FREE???? That has to better right???

Yes, it is "free". Just like it is in North Korea and Cuba.

In fact, it might be faster if he tries to get a flight to one of those countries instead.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, it is "free". Just like it is in North Korea and Cuba.

In fact, it might be faster if he tries to get a flight to one of those countries instead.

You might be surprised to find that medical care in Cuba is quite good. My former pastor was born and raised in Cuba and was cured of leukemia as a young boy. He actually had good things to say about their system. It was about the only good aspect of life in Cuba.

 

[Leo123]

And here we have the Canadian immigration council, whatever it is, advertising to foreigners about free healthcare.

Canada is so screwed. Let us not follow them down this path.

In America, when one goes to the ER, they get triaged. Then, they sit in a waiting room until they are called. In the meantime, if there are multiple ambulances coming in, they usually get handled first and waits can be quite long but, on average you'll be there a few hours depending on the patient load.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

^^^ I can attest to that. On December 29th of 2021, I was at my local ER at 6 PM EST due to a breathing issue and after sitting in the waiting room for five hours, I gave up and went home. The good thing is that the hospital is literally just down the street from my house, but if a person is not going to be given any attention, why even come at all?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. My city used to have two hospitals, but one of them being closed now only makes the remaining building even more busy obviously.

 

[candycorn]

And here we have the Canadian immigration council, whatever it is, advertising to foreigners about free healthcare.

Canada is so screwed. Let us not follow them down this path.

Fascinating story. Could you imagine if it were truthful?

So you’re saying your brother was picked up via ambulance...taken into an emergency room....then taken to the waiting room?

Nope; didn’t happen..

 

[candycorn]

All these people who want universal healthcare simply do not understand what that means and what will happen when they need emergency care. They will wait 6 months for an appendectomy and be dead by then. Look, these liberal Democrats are the same people who were pushing population controls back in the 1960's. They couldn't get what they wanted like kill off 90% of the world. So, they have tried many things like global warming, planned parenthood and fewer children, climate change and now, Covid19, universal healthcare. Universal healthcare will kill off hundreds of millions of people. Maybe billions.

You’d figure tht would translate into shorter life spans (if it were true); not longer ones (which is true). I’m sure there will be a hilarious explanation for why we don’t live as long as these other nations with their “socialized medicine”. Can’t wait to hear what it is.

 

[cnm]

All these people who want universal healthcare simply do not understand what that means and what will happen when they need emergency care. They will wait 6 months for an appendectomy and be dead by then. Look, these liberal Democrats are the same people who were pushing population controls back in the 1960's. They couldn't get what they wanted like kill off 90% of the world. So, they have tried many things like global warming, planned parenthood and fewer children, climate change and now, Covid19, universal healthcare. Universal healthcare will kill off hundreds of millions of people. Maybe billions.

You are an ignorant idiot. Universal health care means that emergencies are treated first and others in order of need. I have both had to wait and been treated immediately at the same level of patient numbers.

 

[cnm]

Fascinating story. Could you imagine if it were truthful?

So you’re saying your brother was picked up via ambulance...taken into an emergency room....then taken to the waiting room?

Nope; didn’t happen..

Doesn't track with my experience of single payer/no charge at point of contact. If it happened it's because he wasn't in immediate danger.

 

[candycorn]

Doesn't track with my experience of single payer/no charge at point of contact. If it happened it's because he wasn't in immediate danger.

Same as with any hospital be it in Belgrade or Boston.

 

[westwall]

You might be surprised to find that medical care in Cuba is quite good. My former pastor was born and raised in Cuba and was cured of leukemia as a young boy. He actually had good things to say about their system. It was about the only good aspect of life in Cuba.

Not really. The medical for foreigners who pay is ok, but the care given to the locals is poor.

 

[Hafar1014]

And here we have the Canadian immigration council, whatever it is, advertising to foreigners about free healthcare.

Canada is so screwed. Let us not follow them down this path.

Thats socialized medicine you wait and wait and wait and die they save money

 

[Hafar1014]

Doesn't track with my experience of single payer/no charge at point of contact. If it happened it's because he wasn't in immediate danger.

The NHS in the UK is the same. You wait fir hours just to get permission to go to the ER