Murkowski, Paul, McConnell, Tillis, Collins

[pknopp]

Only if you make it a pattern or practice you can be imprisoned after fines. Swing and a miss

Subsection 1324a(f) provides that any person or entity that engages in a "pattern or practice" of violations of subsection (a)(1)(A) or (a)(2) shall be fined not more than $3000 for each unauthorized alien with respect to whom such a violation occurs, imprisoned for not more than six months for the entire pattern or practice, or both. The legislative history indicates that "a pattern or practice" of violations is to be given a common sense rather than overly technical meaning, and must evidence regular, repeated and intentional activities, but does not include isolated, sporadic or accidental acts. H.R.Rep. No. 99-682, Part 3, 99th Cong., 2d Sess. (1986), p. 59. See 8 C.F.R. § 274a.1(k).

Illegal employees come in to work every day. You make excuses and then blame others for the same.

As long as employers remain allowed to hire illegals, they will remain by the millions.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Illegal employees come in to work every day. You make excuses and then blame others for the same.

As long as employers remain allowed to hire illegals, they will remain by the millions.

Deport and replace illegals with hungry SNAP recipients.

Problem solved.

 

[pknopp]

Deport and replace illegals with hungry SNAP recipients.

Problem solved.

No, can't be done unless there are repercussions for hiring illegals. And as long as there are people like yourself calling people liars for pointing out the crime, it's not going to happen.

Maybe you need to elect people that will actually address the issue.

 

[berg80]

Mccain stood for nothing but his own self interests. He was no good.

You okay with this?

WASHINGTON — Lawmakers from both parties criticized the Trump administration after Democrats were not invited to a briefing Wednesday on U.S. military strikes on alleged drug-carrying boats.

Sen. Mark Warner, of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, told reporters at a news conference in the Capitol on Thursday that the partisan briefing was a "new low" for the administration.

 

[SweetTea]

I think the calculus is pretty basic: They're afraid of him. They know exactly what will happen if they do what's right and stop this:

1. They'll lose their cushy gubmit jobs by being primaried out.
2. They'll be immediately pulled from any important committee assignments they had.
3. Trump will attack them like any eight year old bully would, and then they'll be on the bad side of both the Dems and MAGA when they look for a new job.
4. Their personal safety and safety of their loved ones might be put at risk.

"That's still not enough to justify them enabling this", you may point out. You're right, of course. These people are the same breed of craven cowards who have ushered this kind of regime for centuries by doing nothing and looking the other way.

I honestly don't blame Trump for any of this. I don't hate him. He's profoundly unwell, and he's just doing what he's being allowed to do. Lay a crippled mouse in front of a hungry snake, and what is the snake going to do, by its nature?

This is on the flock and on congressional Republicans.

And why do virtually no Democrats ever step out of the party line? Who are they afraid of or all they all just sheep?

 

[OODA_Loop]

No, can't be done unless there are repercussions for hiring illegals. And as long as there are people like yourself calling people liars for pointing out the crime, it's not going to happen.

Maybe you need to elect people that will actually address the issue.

Aggressively deporting illegals is the first step addressing the issue.

If you are an illegal invader in any other country you will be aggressively deported.

 

[pknopp]

And why do virtually no Democrats ever step out of the party line? Who are they afraid of or all they all just sheep?

Both parties and their followers are mostly all sheep.

 

[pknopp]

Aggressively deporting illegals is the first step addressing the issue.

If you are an illegal invader in any other country you will be aggressively deported.

More excuses. Other countries address the employment aspect.

Again though, you called me a liar for pointing out facts.

 

[SweetTea]

You okay with this?

WASHINGTON — Lawmakers from both parties criticized the Trump administration after Democrats were not invited to a briefing Wednesday on U.S. military strikes on alleged drug-carrying boats.

Sen. Mark Warner, of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, told reporters at a news conference in the Capitol on Thursday that the partisan briefing was a "new low" for the administration.

Oh well. I am sure they could be sent the meeting minutes. Democrats are huge boneheads when it comes to military operations anyway.

 

[OODA_Loop]

More excuses. Other countries address the employment aspect.

Again though, you called me a liar for pointing out facts.

What fact, liar?

 

[SweetTea]

Both parties and their followers are mostly all sheep.

Republicans have far more trouble within their party getting everyone to agree. That is because many of them actually thing for themselves. The Democratic Party rarely has any disagreements among their policymakers. Even some Conservative Supreme Court justices break rank on occasion. Democratic Supreme Court Justices vote lockstep, 100% of the time.

 

[pknopp]

Republicans have far more trouble within their party getting everyone to agree. That is because many of them actually thing for themselves. The Democratic Party rarely has any disagreements among their policymakers. Even some Conservative Supreme Court justices break rank on occasion. Democratic Supreme Court Justices vote lockstep, 100% of the time.

meaningless vast generalization. And far more trouble is a very short throw.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Pknopp exactly i expected. When called out with factual data.....throws up the Fake News emoji.

Intellectually bereft.

 

[struth]

I think the calculus is pretty basic: They're afraid of him. They know exactly what will happen if they do what's right and stop this:

1. They'll lose their cushy gubmit jobs by being primaried out.
2. They'll be immediately pulled from any important committee assignments they had.
3. Trump will attack them like any eight year old bully would, and then they'll be on the bad side of both the Dems and MAGA when they look for a new job.
4. Their personal safety and safety of their loved ones might be put at risk.

"That's still not enough to justify them enabling this", you may point out. You're right, of course. These people are the same breed of craven cowards who have ushered this kind of regime for centuries by doing nothing and looking the other way.

I honestly don't blame Trump for any of this. I don't hate him. He's profoundly unwell, and he's just doing what he's being allowed to do. Lay a crippled mouse in front of a hungry snake, and what is the snake going to do, by its nature?

This is on the flock and on congressional Republicans.

Stop what?

 

[berg80]

And why do virtually no Democrats ever step out of the party line?

Why do you believe that's true?

 

[struth]

Illegal employees come in to work every day. You make excuses and then blame others for the same.

As long as employers remain allowed to hire illegals, they will remain by the millions.

Employers aren’t allowed to hire illegals

Granted xiden allowed it, but that was because he refused to enforce the law

Biden Dismantles the Ban on Hiring Illegal Immigrants

National Review, October 15, 2021

cis.org

And you voted for that

 

[struth]

Why do you believe that's true?

Because it is

Let’s just take a look at the few that have…what happened to Joe Liberman?

 

[22lcidw]

There is a difference in standing up to a president when it counts, like McCain did and when the vote is going nowhere like this.

It showed what McCain really was. A lifetime spoiled privileged traitor who had his interests above the peoples. In league with fellow traitor Liebermann.

 

[pknopp]

Employers aren’t allowed to hire illegals

Granted xiden allowed it, but that was because he refused to enforce the law

Biden Dismantles the Ban on Hiring Illegal Immigrants

National Review, October 15, 2021

cis.org

And you voted for that

It's permitted today.

How many employers have been busted?

 

[berg80]

Republicans have far more trouble within their party getting everyone to agree.

They typically vote monolithically. It's different with trump, on occasion, because he is so horrifically bad for the country.