Murder rate in gun friendly U.S. border counties less than murder rate in gun controlled Mexico...

[2aguy]

The government enforces strict gun control....on normal Mexican citizens and they are completely successful at it.....gun control in Mexico works like a charm....law abiding Mexican citizens do not have guns......

And as we keep telling you anti gun nuts....that simply means that only cops and criminals will have guns....

Mexico demonstrates this perfectly.....twit.

You dumb twit. You continue to say the Mexican government does not and cannot enforce gun control. You do realize you're saying that right?

They enforce gun control on law abiding citizens.....they cannot enforce gun control on the criminals...that is what we have been telling you for years and years and Mexico proves it.....

Yes in a country where the government cannot enforce gun control, gun control does not work. Man square one is great isn't it?

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

 

[TheOldSchool]

You dumb twit. You continue to say the Mexican government does not and cannot enforce gun control. You do realize you're saying that right?

They enforce gun control on law abiding citizens.....they cannot enforce gun control on the criminals...that is what we have been telling you for years and years and Mexico proves it.....

Yes in a country where the government cannot enforce gun control, gun control does not work. Man square one is great isn't it?

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

 

[2aguy]

They enforce gun control on law abiding citizens.....they cannot enforce gun control on the criminals...that is what we have been telling you for years and years and Mexico proves it.....

Yes in a country where the government cannot enforce gun control, gun control does not work. Man square one is great isn't it?

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

 

[2aguy]

They enforce gun control on law abiding citizens.....they cannot enforce gun control on the criminals...that is what we have been telling you for years and years and Mexico proves it.....

Yes in a country where the government cannot enforce gun control, gun control does not work. Man square one is great isn't it?

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

No one said they were kind or loving...in fact, british criminals are 2x as violent......they just don't cross that line and murder......in Japan...their crime bosses care more about money than facebook insults...so they don't let their underlings kill each other...but when they go to war...they use fully automatic weapons and grenades......

 

[TheOldSchool]

Yes in a country where the government cannot enforce gun control, gun control does not work. Man square one is great isn't it?

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

 

[TheOldSchool]

Yes in a country where the government cannot enforce gun control, gun control does not work. Man square one is great isn't it?

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

No one said they were kind or loving...in fact, british criminals are 2x as violent......they just don't cross that line and murder......in Japan...their crime bosses care more about money than facebook insults...so they don't let their underlings kill each other...but when they go to war...they use fully automatic weapons and grenades......

If they could walk down the road and buy a gun in less than 20 minutes, they'd probably kill each other over all kinds of petty things. Just like in the U.S.

 

[2aguy]

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns...I have posted the articles over and over......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades....

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around......

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily......

 

[2aguy]

What part of the truth, the fact and the reality that normal, law abiding Mexicans cannot buy or own guns and this is enforced by the government law enforcement agencies........do you not understand. The normal Mexicans obey the gun control laws...so the gun control laws work as intended, they keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding people....

Gun laws around the world do not stop criminals from getting guns, not in Britain, France, Japan or Australia...the big four of the anti gunner heaven.......

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

No one said they were kind or loving...in fact, british criminals are 2x as violent......they just don't cross that line and murder......in Japan...their crime bosses care more about money than facebook insults...so they don't let their underlings kill each other...but when they go to war...they use fully automatic weapons and grenades......

If they could walk down the road and buy a gun in less than 20 minutes, they'd probably kill each other over all kinds of petty things. Just like in the U.S.

Wrong...they have access to guns and they still don't commit murder...the ones committing murder in these countries are the foreign immigrant gang members...who are not part of the traditional, European and Australian culture.....they get guns easily and are using them more and more to shoot at each other.....

And gun crime in the U.S. is confined to tiny areas of democrat controlled inner cities......tiny....with a tiny number of criminals doing the shooting....

That means that of the 357,000,000 million guns in private hands.....less than 8,124 in 2014 were used to commit murder...so access to guns does not cause people to commit murder or we would have a lot, a lot, more of it.......

 

[2aguy]

Law abiding people in Australia cannot get guns........their criminals are importing them illegally....easily....

Scary trend in Australian gun crime



MONDAY’S siege in Sydney that saw three people shot and three held hostage before the gunman turned the firearm on himself was a terrifying reminder of the Lindt cafe crisis just over a year ago.

It comes as another man was shot dead in Victoria at close range last night, three days after a man was killed in a suspected shooting at a Melbourne motel and four days after a man was shot dead at a property in Ipswich, Queensland, with police called just after 2am.

Last month, a man accused of a shooting in Canberra allegedly boasted to police that the victim would be dead if he had pulled the trigger, because he had significant experience with firearms, despite not having a licence.

There were 207 firearms deaths in Australia in 2013, a rate of 0.93 per 100,000 people, higher than in 19 other countries, including the UK, Bolivia and Zimbabwe.

While we often shake our heads in horror at America’s problems with gun crime, it’s clear we are far from immune from the deadly influence of firearms.

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In New South Wales, weapons offences have risen 8.7 per cent per year over the past five years, to 11,471 in the year to September 2015. The New Daily reported in November that incidents involving firearms rose 83 per cent in NSW from 2005-6 to 2014-5. Charges for possession and trafficking of guns in South Australia saw a 49 per cent rise over four years.



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Victoria is similarly affected, with a 52 per cent increase in firearms offences to 3645 between 2009-10 and 2014-15. In Tasmania, there was a 26 per cent increase in firearm-related offences between December 2012 and 2015.

Victoria police chief Steve Fontana this week expressed fears about the rapid increase in shootings in the past eight months. The state’s Crime Statistics Agency Chief Statistician Fiona Dowsley said in December: “Weapons and explosives offences and drug use and possession offences have again seen statistically significant increases this quarter.”

Their criminals want guns now...and they are getting them....normal, law abiding citizens...not so much....

 

[TheOldSchool]

All four of the countries you mention have a fraction the number of homicide and gun crime rates as the U.S. Because it is harder for their criminals to get guns.

Mexico is in the middle of a bloody drug war. The government cannot enforce gun control there. You admitted they even help criminals to get guns. If Mexico was stable, and not terrorized by drug cartels, the government could do something about gun crime.

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns...I have posted the articles over and over......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades....

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around......

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns No they can't...I have posted the articles over and over And they all have failed to prove your point......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists THIS IS THE MOST BLATANT LIE I HAVE EVER SEEN YOU POST. BOLDED TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades.... please list some murder and gun crime statistics about Sweden.

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around...... And it still didn't add up to a typical single day in the U.S.

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily..... There are lots of guns in Australia. You say "according to me" gun ownership cannot be going up. I'm the one who told you it was going up. If they have such strict gun control like you say, then how is it going up?

 

[2aguy]

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns...I have posted the articles over and over......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades....

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around......

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns No they can't...I have posted the articles over and over And they all have failed to prove your point......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists THIS IS THE MOST BLATANT LIE I HAVE EVER SEEN YOU POST. BOLDED TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades.... please list some murder and gun crime statistics about Sweden.

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around...... And it still didn't add up to a typical single day in the U.S.

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily..... There are lots of guns in Australia. You say "according to me" gun ownership cannot be going up. I'm the one who told you it was going up. If they have such strict gun control like you say, then how is it going up?

are you kidding...they confiscated their guns and every gun grabbing nut job preaches the wonders of Australian gun control.......

 

[2aguy]

Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does......when they want guns in Japan, Britain, France and Australia.....their criminals get them....even with the strictest gun control in the world......as we have seen in France as every terrorist and criminal in the country gets whatever fully automatic weapon makes their hearts beat faster......I have posted the crimes.....and not one gun control law has stopped their criminals.....but even with those guns, they commit murder less....

The reason they have lower gun murder rates...their criminals do not pull the triggers on their illegal guns to murder each other or their law abiding victims...ours do.....culture, not access to guns is the issue.

Britain...gun crime is up 4% from last year and their police are carrying more guns.....they confiscated their guns.

Dittos Australia...

Japan...When the Yakuza goes to war, they use fully automatic weapons and grenades...

France......check out the Paris concert scene......they know all about illegal, fully automatic rifles....

The only people in those countries who can't get guns....the normal, law abiding citizens...

You are wrong in every belief you have about guns......

Again...reread the article.......we have more guns in this country than Mexico....but their gun murder rate at the border is far higher than ours.......just crossing the border means the gun murder rate drops...in a country with more guns than Mexico.....

And again...you have still failed to answer the question....why is it that as more Americans have bought, own and actually carry guns.....our gun murder rate has gone down, not up......?

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns...I have posted the articles over and over......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades....

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around......

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns No they can't...I have posted the articles over and over And they all have failed to prove your point......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists THIS IS THE MOST BLATANT LIE I HAVE EVER SEEN YOU POST. BOLDED TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades.... please list some murder and gun crime statistics about Sweden.

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around...... And it still didn't add up to a typical single day in the U.S.

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily..... There are lots of guns in Australia. You say "according to me" gun ownership cannot be going up. I'm the one who told you it was going up. If they have such strict gun control like you say, then how is it going up?

First....I am the one who has informed everyone about gun crime increasing in Australia......you don't have to credit me as your link....

Also...

France’s real gun problem

Running guns to the heart of Europe: 'Need a Kalashnikov in Belgium? No problem'

But for all the new resolve of the European Union to tighten borders and close loopholes in laws that already effectively ban private ownership of rapid-fire assault weapons, Nemac, Milan and a jaded Serbian policeman doubt it can end the trade.

The Serbian police officer, who is involved in counter-trafficking operations, said investigators uncovered maybe a third of shipments at best. The problem was the sheer volume of weapons, he explained, recounting a tale of a man who told customs officers at Serbia's border with the EU that he was a musician and had nothing to declare but his old accordion.--

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Indeed, there is some irony that Brussels, self-styled "capital" of the European Union and also home to the NATO military alliance, has become a marketplace for such hardware.

"If you have 500 to 1,000 euros you can get a military weapon within half an hour," said Bilal Benyaich, an expert on Islamist radicals at the city's Itinera Institute think-tank.
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This story tracks gun smuggling in Europe.....lots of it....

European Police Face Being Outgunned by Jihadists With Assault Rifles



But although the police quickly traced the weapons source in the Paris attacks, stopping criminals and other jihadist cells in Europe from acquiring assault weapons for further attacks might not be so easy, according to police officials.



French police believe rifles are on sale in French cities for between €1,000 and €1,500. Earlier this month, Philippe Capon, head of the French police union UNSA, told Bloomberg News, “The French black market for weapons has been inundated with eastern European war artillery and arms.” A French police source told TIME that the weapons from the Charlie Hebdoattack came from the Balkans.

That is not the only source of weaponry. Donald says he fears that the continent might be facing a fresh influx of weapons from North Africa in the wake of the Arab Spring revolts. In August, 2011, Libyan rebels looted large quantities of mortars, tank shells and other munitions when Moammar Gaddafi’s regime collapsed. Although most of those weapons are believed to have filtered across North and West Africa, some could also have made their way to Europe.

The arms traffickers have flourished in the absence of well-financed antiweapons units in Europe, where law enforcement has for years tended to plow money into stopping drug-dealing and other crimes. “We don’t fully understand the scale of the problem because we have not had specialized units,” says Donald, referring to law-enforcement agencies in different E.U. countries. “It is a question of priorities. Any police officer will tell you it [resources] is a constant struggle.”

The trade in illegal weapons can earn enormous profits for organized criminal gangs — enough to make the risk of capture worthwhile. Donald says recent investigations have found arms traffickers investing about €30,000 in a shipment of Balkan-era weapons, refurbishing them in their garages, then selling them for them for about 10 times the price. “That’s a huge mark-up,” he says.

As Europe struggles to crack down on illegal weapons, some police recruits face a new training exercise: Go buy a Kalashnikov rifle. Donald says that in “a city in Europe,” which he would not name, “very young officers with no training or experience” were recently told to go find an assault weapon on the streets from an illegal arms dealer. “One came back two hours later with an AK-47,” Donald says. “He bought it for €1,000.”


aanother story on ease terrorists get guns....

Getting a gun legally in Europe may be hard, but terrorists have little trouble

In contrast with the free-firing United States, Europe is generally seen as a haven from serious gun violence. Here in Denmark, handguns and semiautomatic rifles are all but banned. Hunting rifles are legally available only to those with squeaky-clean backgrounds who have passed a rigorous exam covering everything from gun safety to the mating habits of Denmark’s wildlife.

“There’s a book about 1,000 pages thick,” said Tonni Rigby, one of only two licensed firearms dealers in Copenhagen. “You have to know all of it.”


But if you want an illicit assault rifle, such as the one used by a 22-year-old to rake a Copenhagen cafe with 28 bullets on Saturday, all it takes are a few connections and some cash.

“It’s very easy to get such a weapon,” said Hans Jorgen Bonnichsen, a former operations director for the Danish security service PET. “It’s not only a problem for Denmark. It’s a problem for all of Europe.”

 

[2aguy]

And an older article about the increase in gun crime in Britain...you know..the country that confiscated guns from normal, law abiding people....and the crime rate increased...

From 2009......well after they confiscated guns in Britain...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade

Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold.

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold.

In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled.

The statistic will fuel fears that the police are struggling to contain gang-related violence, in which the carrying of a firearm has become increasingly common place.

Last week, police in London revealed they had begun carrying out armed patrols on some streets.

The move means officers armed with sub-machine guns are engaged in routine policing for the first time.

 

[TheOldSchool]

You said:
"Wrong, those countries have criminal sub cultures that do not do not commit murder as often as our criminal sub culture does"

Because it is difficult for them to get guns (those things that are the most efficient killing devices in all of human history). Not because they are kind and loving.

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns...I have posted the articles over and over......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades....

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around......

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns No they can't...I have posted the articles over and over And they all have failed to prove your point......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists THIS IS THE MOST BLATANT LIE I HAVE EVER SEEN YOU POST. BOLDED TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades.... please list some murder and gun crime statistics about Sweden.

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around...... And it still didn't add up to a typical single day in the U.S.

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily..... There are lots of guns in Australia. You say "according to me" gun ownership cannot be going up. I'm the one who told you it was going up. If they have such strict gun control like you say, then how is it going up?

are you kidding...they confiscated their guns and every gun grabbing nut job preaches the wonders of Australian gun control.......

So are you saying gun ownership isn't going up? And the number of guns hasn't exceeded the number before the buy back?

 

[2aguy]

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns...I have posted the articles over and over......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades....

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around......

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns No they can't...I have posted the articles over and over And they all have failed to prove your point......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists THIS IS THE MOST BLATANT LIE I HAVE EVER SEEN YOU POST. BOLDED TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades.... please list some murder and gun crime statistics about Sweden.

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around...... And it still didn't add up to a typical single day in the U.S.

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily..... There are lots of guns in Australia. You say "according to me" gun ownership cannot be going up. I'm the one who told you it was going up. If they have such strict gun control like you say, then how is it going up?

are you kidding...they confiscated their guns and every gun grabbing nut job preaches the wonders of Australian gun control.......

So are you saying gun ownership isn't going up? And the number of guns hasn't exceeded the number before the buy back?

Illegal gun ownership is up.......the criminals are importing them despite the confiscation and the extreme gun control laws keeping law abiding Australians from owning guns...

And again....you never answer this question......

How is it that Americans now own and actually carry more guns than ever before...and our gun murder rate has gone down? According to you that is not possible.

 

[2aguy]

The Australian confiscation back was in 1997....... by 2009 gun crime increased 89% ..............

 

[2aguy]

Nope...their criminals get guns easily.......they get fully automatic weapons.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are.

British gun crime is up 4%....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same......

Australian gun crime is going up......


Their criminals get guns.....

Nope...their criminals get guns easily Not as easily as if there was no gun control.......they get fully automatic weapons Almost none of them do.........they do not pull the trigger as often...and they are worse shots than our criminals are. Because they've never seen or used a gun.



British gun crime is up 4% That's barely anything....after they confiscated guns..their gun crime rate stayed the same No it's actually down, even though they have way more people living in closer proximity to each other than before......

Australian gun crime is going up Gun ownership is now above pre-buyback levels......


Their criminals get guns at a tiny fraction of the rate they do in the U.S......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns...I have posted the articles over and over......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades....

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around......

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily......

The truth, the facts and reality show you are wrong.....Australia, Britain, France, Belgium, Sweden, Japan....all have strict gun control and their criminals easily get guns No they can't...I have posted the articles over and over And they all have failed to prove your point......

Almost every crime in Europe is done with a fully automatic weapon...from street crime to terrorists THIS IS THE MOST BLATANT LIE I HAVE EVER SEEN YOU POST. BOLDED TO CATCH YOUR ATTENTION....their gun control laws do not prevent them from getting those guns...they also like grenades.....

Sweden....all summer they had gunmen shooting each other and lobbing grenades.... please list some murder and gun crime statistics about Sweden.

Japan...I listed the gang wars and the one that just ended a few years ago...the one they called the Season of the Pineapples for all the grenades being tossed around...... And it still didn't add up to a typical single day in the U.S.

Gun ownership cannot be going up in Australia...according to you...they confiscated guns and have the strictest gun control laws.....of course the law abiding can't get guns....but foreign immigrant terrorists who shot people last year, and the bikie gangs shooting each other get guns easily..... There are lots of guns in Australia. You say "according to me" gun ownership cannot be going up. I'm the one who told you it was going up. If they have such strict gun control like you say, then how is it going up?

are you kidding...they confiscated their guns and every gun grabbing nut job preaches the wonders of Australian gun control.......

So are you saying gun ownership isn't going up? And the number of guns hasn't exceeded the number before the buy back?

Britain....confiscated guns...extreme gun control on normal citizens....gun crime up 4%....and British police are now carrying guns at increasing rates........

Criminals will get guns when they want or need them....just like in Mexico.....again, strict gun control in Mexico for normal Mexicans....but the drug cartels get all the guns they need......