The bar for the Papadopoulos-Downer meeting is MI6 country. Another bar meeting for the Papadopoulos-Turk meeting is not named. Misfud has disappeared. That makes sense to mask any Knights of Malta connections to the CIA because the 1987 James Jesus Angleton chron is not the only 1987 chron that links to Steele: Ohr is another, and until recently, msm has reified the FBI.
Mueller Gets CAUGHT !!!
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Yes indeed this all proves how corrupt the democrats are .. How disgusting they are
With the men waking up and making this judgement. The end is near for the foolish democrats !
With the men waking up and making this judgement. The end is near for the foolish democrats !
Nellie Ohr seems to be playing an important role in the esoterica of intelligence agencies. There is some resonance to this, here:
'The Neolithic in Southern Scandinavia.....The new strategies also involve bringing an end to old ideas. As already noted, passage graves may be closed or cleared out at this time. Indeed the emphasis on the control of esoteric knowledge about the ordering of human bones within the inner sanctum ot tombs disappears. There is little emphasis on the transformation of the natural into the cultural. Rather, the body is placed, without the removal of flesh, in a simple grave associated with artifacts, which directly express the social standing of the deceased.
It is particularly gender distinctions that can be identified. Masle graves are associated with weapons and female graves with jewellery but also with small polished working axes (Randsborg 1986) More specifically men are often found in the graves with with a battle axe by the face, a beaker presumably containing some form of liquor, a flint axe, and amber. Women are sometimes buried with hundreds of amber beads.
....
The Neolithic of Lower Britain....While detailed contextual information is scarce, we can begin to identify some of the social meanings involved. For example, human bones more frequently occur inside the chambers than outside, and they frequently show evidence of disarticulation and perhaps the removal of flesh as part of the treatment of the corpse. In the Cotswold-Severn tombs the numbers of bodies vary from 2 to greater than 45. The bones are usually disarticulated and there is some slight evidence for excarnation (Darvill 1982),,,,Much of the observed disarticulation could have been produced by later disturbance of skeletons which were originally placed in the tombs fully fleshed. However, this later "disturbance" often involved reordering of the human bones (Shanks and Tilley 1982). The reorganization often concerns opposition between articulated individuals and disarticulated collections of bones.
Amongst the non-megalithic barrows, articulated and disarticulated bones are separated within the chambers at Fussell's Lodge, Wor Barrow, Wayland's Smithy, and Nutbane (Ashbee 1970). Amongst the Megalithic Cotswold-Severn tombs, Ascott-under-Wychwood contains bones from different individuals which were articulated together to form a "fake" individual as a last event in the use of the chamber (Chesterman 1977). At Hazleton North, the bones may have been left to decompose in the entrance before being taken through to the interior (Saville 1984).
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In whose interest is this drama played out? It has often been suggested that there are many more males in long barrows than females, especially in the latter parts of the earlier Neolithic. The bias towards males may occur because the bones of females are more difficult to differentiate from the bones of adolescents and children, thus distorting the proportions of male and female bones in the favour of males....There is also some slight evidence that males are more closely associated with the inner parts of tombs, as has been noted for France. Reanalysis of the detailed processes of deposition at West Kennet has emphasized the previously identified pattern at this site in which primary deposits are differentiated between adult male bones in the inner, western chamber and mixed sex groups including young individuals in the outer chambers.
It is unlikely that the male-female/inner-outer pattern will be found in all tombs. Many local and contextual factors will have transformed any underlying principles. But through time, as we shall see, monumental tombs become increasingly associated with adult males. It seems reasonable to accept the evidence that even in the early tombs, there was a tendency for the ordering of the bones within the chambers to be linked with adult men.....There is a drama in this reordering....the rituals imply emotive relationships between flesh, blood, and bone, between the individual and society, and between the individual and his or her place in relation to the ancestors or to the ancestral line.
....
It is thus attractive to argue that the separation of tools from pots in the tombs represents a symbolic opposition between the male control of ancestors and esoteric knowledge (in the domus) and female control of the entrance to that knowledge (in the foris). If this structure is supported as further evidence is amassed, it will be apparent that the symbolic opposition does not imply a simplistic separation of gender activities. 'Male opposed to female' (cultural categories) does not equate with 'men opposed to women' (biological categories). Thus the bones of women do occur in stone chambers. Women were clearly buried there and some of the tools and ornaments found in the chambers may have been deposited with women. Women may have played a role in the rites of the inner sanctum, and equally men may have taken part in the rites of the cult house and tomb facade....And there is some evidence in Southern Scandinavia that this front part of the domus might be more closely associated with the female than with the male....It is the foris (entrance and exits and the presentation of food in feasts and rituals) that is the focus of pottery decoration in central and northern Europe.'
(Hodder I, The Domestication of Europe: Structure and Contingency in Neolithic Societies)
In the Ohr storyline, Nellie hands the Russian information to her husband (the female controlling entrance to that knowledge).
'The Neolithic in Southern Scandinavia.....The new strategies also involve bringing an end to old ideas. As already noted, passage graves may be closed or cleared out at this time. Indeed the emphasis on the control of esoteric knowledge about the ordering of human bones within the inner sanctum ot tombs disappears. There is little emphasis on the transformation of the natural into the cultural. Rather, the body is placed, without the removal of flesh, in a simple grave associated with artifacts, which directly express the social standing of the deceased.
It is particularly gender distinctions that can be identified. Masle graves are associated with weapons and female graves with jewellery but also with small polished working axes (Randsborg 1986) More specifically men are often found in the graves with with a battle axe by the face, a beaker presumably containing some form of liquor, a flint axe, and amber. Women are sometimes buried with hundreds of amber beads.
....
The Neolithic of Lower Britain....While detailed contextual information is scarce, we can begin to identify some of the social meanings involved. For example, human bones more frequently occur inside the chambers than outside, and they frequently show evidence of disarticulation and perhaps the removal of flesh as part of the treatment of the corpse. In the Cotswold-Severn tombs the numbers of bodies vary from 2 to greater than 45. The bones are usually disarticulated and there is some slight evidence for excarnation (Darvill 1982),,,,Much of the observed disarticulation could have been produced by later disturbance of skeletons which were originally placed in the tombs fully fleshed. However, this later "disturbance" often involved reordering of the human bones (Shanks and Tilley 1982). The reorganization often concerns opposition between articulated individuals and disarticulated collections of bones.
Amongst the non-megalithic barrows, articulated and disarticulated bones are separated within the chambers at Fussell's Lodge, Wor Barrow, Wayland's Smithy, and Nutbane (Ashbee 1970). Amongst the Megalithic Cotswold-Severn tombs, Ascott-under-Wychwood contains bones from different individuals which were articulated together to form a "fake" individual as a last event in the use of the chamber (Chesterman 1977). At Hazleton North, the bones may have been left to decompose in the entrance before being taken through to the interior (Saville 1984).
....
In whose interest is this drama played out? It has often been suggested that there are many more males in long barrows than females, especially in the latter parts of the earlier Neolithic. The bias towards males may occur because the bones of females are more difficult to differentiate from the bones of adolescents and children, thus distorting the proportions of male and female bones in the favour of males....There is also some slight evidence that males are more closely associated with the inner parts of tombs, as has been noted for France. Reanalysis of the detailed processes of deposition at West Kennet has emphasized the previously identified pattern at this site in which primary deposits are differentiated between adult male bones in the inner, western chamber and mixed sex groups including young individuals in the outer chambers.
It is unlikely that the male-female/inner-outer pattern will be found in all tombs. Many local and contextual factors will have transformed any underlying principles. But through time, as we shall see, monumental tombs become increasingly associated with adult males. It seems reasonable to accept the evidence that even in the early tombs, there was a tendency for the ordering of the bones within the chambers to be linked with adult men.....There is a drama in this reordering....the rituals imply emotive relationships between flesh, blood, and bone, between the individual and society, and between the individual and his or her place in relation to the ancestors or to the ancestral line.
....
It is thus attractive to argue that the separation of tools from pots in the tombs represents a symbolic opposition between the male control of ancestors and esoteric knowledge (in the domus) and female control of the entrance to that knowledge (in the foris). If this structure is supported as further evidence is amassed, it will be apparent that the symbolic opposition does not imply a simplistic separation of gender activities. 'Male opposed to female' (cultural categories) does not equate with 'men opposed to women' (biological categories). Thus the bones of women do occur in stone chambers. Women were clearly buried there and some of the tools and ornaments found in the chambers may have been deposited with women. Women may have played a role in the rites of the inner sanctum, and equally men may have taken part in the rites of the cult house and tomb facade....And there is some evidence in Southern Scandinavia that this front part of the domus might be more closely associated with the female than with the male....It is the foris (entrance and exits and the presentation of food in feasts and rituals) that is the focus of pottery decoration in central and northern Europe.'
(Hodder I, The Domestication of Europe: Structure and Contingency in Neolithic Societies)
In the Ohr storyline, Nellie hands the Russian information to her husband (the female controlling entrance to that knowledge).
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If there is no accountability -- and that means impeachment -- then we are normalizing everything that has happened in the past two and a half years
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We have something that the old folk never had, places where people from all areas of the Nation can come together and give idea no matter how stupid they are. This make many liberals unset for you don't have to listen to what they spout. Next move by the liberals is going to be net nutual messages. Oh they are working on this in Congress as we type and I really like the New Civil Right Act....Sounds good until you find out is about Gay Rights Only. Senate will not pass it or look at it.
If there is a poster child for histrionics, it's Alexander Downer.
If the reader has understood post # 223, we point out that in this next report, Nellie reverses the Neolithic sequence as if the emails she deleted were in danger of flowing back out of the inside of the tomb (from her husband's esoteric command), as if she could not be sure they were kept esoteric. This is an interesting genuflection when it comes to Hillary Clinton as well.
16 May 2016 Nellie Ohr Deleted Emails Sent From Husband's DOJ Account
Nellie Ohr deleted emails sent from husband's DOJ account
'....Judicial Watch obtained a series of Ap 2016 emails from a FOIA lawsuit against the Justice Department that show a correspondence between the Ohrs, an aide to Bruce Ohr named Lisa Holtyn, and Stefan Bress, a first secretary at the German Embassy....addressed to Attorney General William Barr, citing concerns that Nellie Ohr "knowingly provided false testimony" to lawmakers....indicates a pattern of covering up a plot against Trump.'
If the reader has understood post # 223, we point out that in this next report, Nellie reverses the Neolithic sequence as if the emails she deleted were in danger of flowing back out of the inside of the tomb (from her husband's esoteric command), as if she could not be sure they were kept esoteric. This is an interesting genuflection when it comes to Hillary Clinton as well.
16 May 2016 Nellie Ohr Deleted Emails Sent From Husband's DOJ Account
Nellie Ohr deleted emails sent from husband's DOJ account
'....Judicial Watch obtained a series of Ap 2016 emails from a FOIA lawsuit against the Justice Department that show a correspondence between the Ohrs, an aide to Bruce Ohr named Lisa Holtyn, and Stefan Bress, a first secretary at the German Embassy....addressed to Attorney General William Barr, citing concerns that Nellie Ohr "knowingly provided false testimony" to lawmakers....indicates a pattern of covering up a plot against Trump.'
Note that in post #223, foris 'door' is usually "the front."
Dan Bongino Show / Lisa Holtyn
Lisa Holtyn Archives – Dan Bongino
'....Report: Clinton-Funded Research Possibly Sent to DOJ Via "Back Door" Channel
Dan Bongino Show / Lisa Holtyn
Lisa Holtyn Archives – Dan Bongino
'....Report: Clinton-Funded Research Possibly Sent to DOJ Via "Back Door" Channel
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Attacking Joseph Mifsud is worse than attacking Trump, because Mifsud has even better relations with Russia.
For more resonance between Bruce Ohr and Russia, there is....
'Bruce Ohr used Baker McKenzie's office in the District of Columbia 49 times to meet Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska from 2009 to 2016, according to John Solomon.'
(www. CIA Used Tom Firestone and Bruce Ohr to Set Up Meetings with Oleg Deripaska in the Law Offices of Baker McKenzie)
This video gives more information on British ties to Deripaska, et al. linking to Klebnikov on Russian aluminum business (Godfather of the Kremlin).
Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska and His Links to British Politicians
'Bruce Ohr used Baker McKenzie's office in the District of Columbia 49 times to meet Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska from 2009 to 2016, according to John Solomon.'
(www. CIA Used Tom Firestone and Bruce Ohr to Set Up Meetings with Oleg Deripaska in the Law Offices of Baker McKenzie)
This video gives more information on British ties to Deripaska, et al. linking to Klebnikov on Russian aluminum business (Godfather of the Kremlin).
Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska and His Links to British Politicians
Chron for July 2016 compares with Ohr's activities around 11 Jul 2016:
Chron
Timeline of Russia Investigation - FactCheck.org
' 2016: 7 Jul Oleg Deripaska / Manafort....15 Jul Flynn's email.'
Where was Bruce Ohr?
UNAM Law School Participants Complete OASIS Boston Study Trip at Harvard Law School
Bruce Ohr Archives - Justice in Mexico
'....11 Jul 2016 Ohr explained that the OCDETF does not deal directly with criminal cases. Instead the task force provides funding to various agencies such as DEA and FBI in order to allow them to investigate large organized crime cases and to collaborate with other agencies, including the DOJ.'
For the circular chron in post #217, 'Strzok Jul 2016.'
Chron
Timeline of Russia Investigation - FactCheck.org
' 2016: 7 Jul Oleg Deripaska / Manafort....15 Jul Flynn's email.'
Where was Bruce Ohr?
UNAM Law School Participants Complete OASIS Boston Study Trip at Harvard Law School
Bruce Ohr Archives - Justice in Mexico
'....11 Jul 2016 Ohr explained that the OCDETF does not deal directly with criminal cases. Instead the task force provides funding to various agencies such as DEA and FBI in order to allow them to investigate large organized crime cases and to collaborate with other agencies, including the DOJ.'
For the circular chron in post #217, 'Strzok Jul 2016.'
Bruce Ohr seems to have been fixated on Deripaska the aluminum oligarch (supposedly 49 meetings), though the histrionics for the looting of Russia may have had other origins, pointing to such venues as Peter Sellers, Being There (1979).
'No one was more adept at taking over big companies at virtually no cost than Berezovsky. The tycoon jhad invested a few million dollars to obtain a controlling stake in Avtovaz; he had paid just $320,000 for a controlling stake in ORT; and he had paid nothing at all to take control of Aeroflot. He would have to put up real money to purchase a controlling stake in Sibneft, but he was determined to pay a fraction of the market price. Out of these considerations -- the desire to take over Russia's big exporters and the determination to pay almost nothing for the equity -- the concept of loans-for-shares auctions was born. It was left up to Vladimir Potanin to make the proposal to the government.
....
After Yeltsin took power, Potanin moved into banking. He established two banks, MFK and Onexim Bank, on the ruins of the Soviet Union's primary foreign trade banks. The best clients of these bankrupt institutions -- more than forty top Russian exporters -- transferred their accounts to Potanin's new banks, while the foreign trade debts were left with the Russian government. Only a few years after their creation, Onexim Bank and MFK ranked as Russia's third- and fourth-largest banks, respectively, with subsidiaries in Switzerland, Cyprus, and the Caribbean.'
(Klebnikov, Godfather of the Kremlin)
Berezovsky's modus operandi in the Russian aluminum business should not go unnoticed in relation to Deripaska, especially due to Ohr's opaque background. Ohr may also have worked at a law firm in San Francisco. Berezovsky's partner's mansion (Abramovich's) can be seen in the youtube videos concerning Russian real estate investments in the UK. Alexander Downer's links to Cyprus are worthy of further scrutiny.
'No one was more adept at taking over big companies at virtually no cost than Berezovsky. The tycoon jhad invested a few million dollars to obtain a controlling stake in Avtovaz; he had paid just $320,000 for a controlling stake in ORT; and he had paid nothing at all to take control of Aeroflot. He would have to put up real money to purchase a controlling stake in Sibneft, but he was determined to pay a fraction of the market price. Out of these considerations -- the desire to take over Russia's big exporters and the determination to pay almost nothing for the equity -- the concept of loans-for-shares auctions was born. It was left up to Vladimir Potanin to make the proposal to the government.
....
After Yeltsin took power, Potanin moved into banking. He established two banks, MFK and Onexim Bank, on the ruins of the Soviet Union's primary foreign trade banks. The best clients of these bankrupt institutions -- more than forty top Russian exporters -- transferred their accounts to Potanin's new banks, while the foreign trade debts were left with the Russian government. Only a few years after their creation, Onexim Bank and MFK ranked as Russia's third- and fourth-largest banks, respectively, with subsidiaries in Switzerland, Cyprus, and the Caribbean.'
(Klebnikov, Godfather of the Kremlin)
Berezovsky's modus operandi in the Russian aluminum business should not go unnoticed in relation to Deripaska, especially due to Ohr's opaque background. Ohr may also have worked at a law firm in San Francisco. Berezovsky's partner's mansion (Abramovich's) can be seen in the youtube videos concerning Russian real estate investments in the UK. Alexander Downer's links to Cyprus are worthy of further scrutiny.
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Why isn`t that guy speaking English?
THE FAT BOY GIVES UP
The Justice Department has agreed to provide Congress with key evidence collected by Robert S. Mueller III, the former special counsel.CreditCreditDoug Mills/The New York Times
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department, after weeks of tense negotiations, has agreed to provide Congress with key evidence collected by Robert S. Mueller III that could shed light on possible obstruction of justice and abuse of power by President Trump, the House Judiciary Committee said on Monday.
The exact scope of the material the Justice Department has agreed to provide was not immediately clear, but the committee signaled that it was a breakthrough after weeks of wrangling over those materials and others that the Judiciary panel demanded under subpoena.
The announcement appeared to provide a rationale for House Democrats’ choice, announced last week, to back away from threats to hold Attorney General William P. Barr in contempt of Congress. The House will still proceed on Tuesday with a vote to empower the Judiciary Committee to take Mr. Barr to court to fully enforce its subpoena, but even that may no longer be necessary, the panel’s leader said.
“We have agreed to allow the department time to demonstrate compliance with this agreement. If the Department proceeds in good faith and we are able to obtain everything that we need, then there will be no need to take further steps,” Representative Jerrold Nadler of New York, the committee chairman, said in a statement. “If important information is held back, then we will have no choice but to enforce our subpoena in court and consider other remedies.”
foreshadowed in an exchange of letters in recent weeks between the committee and the department. In a May 24 letter outlining a proposed compromise Mr. Nadler wrote that he was “prepared to prioritize production of materials that would provide the committee with the most insight into certain incidents when the special counsel found ‘substantial evidence’ of obstruction of justice.”
Those incidences include Mr. Trump’s attempts to fire Mr. Mueller, the special counsel; his request that Donald F. McGahn II, the former White House counsel, create “a fraudulent record denying that incident;” and Mr. Trump’s efforts to get former Attorney General Jeff Sessions to undo his recusal and curtail the scope of the special counsel inquiry.
After weeks of objections, the Justice Department said it found the proposal reasonable and would work with the committee to share the materials in question, but only if the House would back off holding Mr. Barr in contempt of Congress for his defiance of the subpoena in question.
Democrats were willing to do so. The House still plans to vote on Tuesday to authorize the committee to go to a federal court against Mr. Barr to seek full enforcement of its subpoena and to petition a judge to unseal grand jury secrets related to the case for Congress. But in a sign of the newfound cooperation, the House will not formally vote to hold Mr. Barr in contempt of Congress, leveling a criminal accusation against him, at least for now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/...on=CompanionColumn&contentCollection=Trending
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/...on=CompanionColumn&contentCollection=Trending
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