Mrs. Kirk With Some Ideas About Women and Work

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That's the only factual evidence I have.

That's your mistake: it is not evidence of a trend.

 

[Woodznutz]

That's your mistake: it is not evidence of a trend.

Facts are facts, like the fact that your new $40,000 vehicle will depreciate by $8,000 the first year. I don't really care how much my $7,000 car depreciates. Also, the interest on your loan would be about $3000/yr. which puts you in the hole by $11,000 out of the gate.

 

[Woodznutz]

That's your mistake: it is not evidence of a trend.

I think buying used or keeping the old girl might indeed be a trend considering the cost of new vehicles. In fact, so many are buying used that they are driving the prices up.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Facts are facts, like the fact that your new $40,000 vehicle will depreciate by $8,000 the first year.

And will not be subjected to expensive repairs, like the $15,000 shitbox with 100k miles will be.

 

[Leo123]

Women entered the workforce because they had to otherwise their households didnt make enough money to pay the bills. They no longer could afford to stay home. They arent going to ever go back to the olden days.

Women entered the workforce because feminism told them that they could be everything. All they did was lower wages, so they had to work.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Women entered the workforce because feminism told him that they could be everything

The stupidity and bigotry on full display here is astonishing, if only by the fact of how the halfwit who uttered is is completely oblivious to it.

But hey, this is what Kirk was. So, it's a fitting tribute.

 

[Woodznutz]

Women entered the workforce because feminism told him that they could be everything. All they did was lower wages, so they had to work.

Rosy the Riveter let the genie out of the bottle.

 

[Leo123]

Rosy the Riveter let the genie out of the bottle.

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Nope, that was necessary because of the huge reduction of men in the workforce and The ramped up manufacturing of arms.

 

[initforme]

Women entered the workforce because feminism told them that they could be everything. All they did was lower wages, so they had to work.

 

[Lockback]

The stupidity and bigotry on full display here is astonishing, if only by the fact of how the halfwit who uttered is is completely oblivious to it.

But hey, this is what Kirk was. So, it's a fitting tribute.

One of Charlie Kirk's shits had a higher IQ and more integrity than you.

 

[initforme]

Women entered the workforce because feminism told them that they could be everything. All they did was lower wages, so they had to work.

I Not sure what you want from young people but they dont buy into your point of view. People see others having money for nice things bur you want them to sacrifice with less for the good of what i dont know.

 

[Leo123]

I Not sure what you want from young people but they dont buy into your point of view. People see others having money for nice things bur you want them to sacrifice with less for the good of what i dont know.

How is having a loving family and children a sacrifice? Besides, when the kids are adults and out on their own they can work all they want. Have the kids in your twenties, budget, buy a used car etc. The love of children, a spouse and family is worth all the gold on Earth.

 

[initforme]

How is having a loving family and children a sacrifice? Besides, when the kids are adults and out on their own they can work all they want. Have the kids in your twenties, budget, buy a used car etc. The love of children, a spouse and family is worth all the gold on Earth.

Not on one midfle class income. Your ligic doesnt fit in todays america. If im a young person now in todays america im not thinking about marriage snd kids until
1) im further educated or trained in a field or trade that secures a big wage.
2) im saving until i have a nice nest egg saved up.
3) im putting at least 2/3 of my psycheck away in investments to be able to retire in my 50s.

The above plan is the new way to succeed.

 

[Leo123]

Not on one midfle class income. Your ligic doesnt fit in todays america. If im a young person now in todays america im not thinking about marriage snd kids until
1) im further educated or trained in a field or trade that secures a big wage.
2) im saving until i have a nice nest egg saved up.
3) im putting at least 2/3 of my psycheck away in investments to be able to retire in my 50s.

The above plan is the new way to succeed.

I see you probably do need more education as you seem to misspell a lot of common words and don't know when to capitalize. You don't need a college education to work in a trade and you'll make more money than getting a degree in socio-economics, etc.

 

[initforme]

I see you probably do need more education as you seem to misspell a lot of common words and don't know when to capitalize. You don't need a college education to work in a trade and you'll make more money than getting a degree in socio-economics, etc.

What you are longing for is never coming back. Its not fair to ask the youth to aspire to less money. Its over. Those days are gone.

 

[Leo123]

What you are longing for is never coming back. Its not fair to ask the youth to aspire to less money. Its over. Those days are gone.

Why can't it come back? Is that somewhere written in stone?

 

[initforme]

Why can't it come back? Is that somewhere written in stone?

The current nation has made it so. Its time to accept the fastly growing trend

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

$40K cars are fine if one can afford it. I can afford much more but I'd rather spend my money elsewhere. But mainly I love this vehicle, and it's my third Grand Marquis. I'll buy them as long as they're available. I've driven them for the last 27 years.

How many gallons to the mile does it get?

 

[DGS49]

The best thing that ever happened to women in the workplace is almost never mentioned today, although it remains one of the "elephants in the room."

It was the legislative and/or court initiative that made it IMPOSSIBLE to discriminate against a woman applicant for the customary reasons. That was earth-shaking.

When a young woman walked in the door, regardless of her credentials, she was asked either overtly or covertly whether she was married and whether she intended to have kids. Sometimes - if not usually - it was ASSUMED that she would be having children, and her prospects with that employer were drastically constrained by the assumption that she would,

• want to take six months off to have and nurse a baby (then additional babies),
• be calling in "sick" when one of her brats caught a cold,
• be coming in late or leaving early to accommodate her kids' academic issues,
• refuse overnight travel and overtime work because of family issues,
• take time off for her kids' extracurricular bullshit (soccer, music lessons, etc.),
• refuse a transfer to advance her career, and finally,
• "retire" early to meet her marital and maternal obligations.

THIS IS WHY it was so rare for women to get to the corporate executive suite. It was DISCRIMINATION, but it was well-warranted discrimination because the bullet-points above usually proved true. A woman would have to convince her employer from the get-go that she was either a lesbian or sterile, otherwise she went into the secretarial pool.

When my wife, a fresh college grad, went into the biggest local bank for a job in 1975, she was asked whether she preferred secretarial work or wanted to be a bank teller. If she were a man, she would have been put into a management training program. It took her 20 years to truly get into management, during which time she continually was paid below the published minimum salary for her positions in the bank.

But those days are over now. For the most part. It is more than possible to have a career and have children, but it is an open question whether this is a good idea. Can anyone really do both well?

 

[initforme]

The best thing that ever happened to women in the workplace is almost never mentioned today, although it remains one of the "elephants in the room."

It was the legislative and/or court initiative that made it IMPOSSIBLE to discriminate against a woman applicant for the customary reasons. That was earth-shaking.

When a young woman walked in the door, regardless of her credentials, she was asked either overtly or covertly whether she was married and whether she intended to have kids. Sometimes - if not usually - it was ASSUMED that she would be having children, and her prospects with that employer were drastically constrained by the assumption that she would,

• want to take six months off to have and nurse a baby (then additional babies),
• be calling in "sick" when one of her brats caught a cold,
• be coming in late or leaving early to accommodate her kids' academic issues,
• refuse overnight travel and overtime work because of family issues,
• take time off for her kids' extracurricular bullshit (soccer, music lessons, etc.),
• refuse a transfer to advance her career, and finally,
• "retire" early to meet her marital and maternal obligations.

THIS IS WHY it was so rare for women to get to the corporate executive suite. It was DISCRIMINATION, but it was well-warranted discrimination because the bullet-points above usually proved true. A woman would have to convince her employer from the get-go that she was either a lesbian or sterile, otherwise she went into the secretarial pool.

When my wife, a fresh college grad, went into the biggest local bank for a job in 1975, she was asked whether she preferred secretarial work or wanted to be a bank teller. If she were a man, she would have been put into a management training program. It took her 20 years to truly get into management, during which time she continually was paid below the published minimum salary for her positions in the bank.

But those days are over now. For the most part. It is more than possible to have a career and have children, but it is an open question whether this is a good idea. Can anyone really do both well?

Probably not so its a win win when a choice is made one way or the other. Theres no losing choice.