Rigby5
Diamond Member
Police corruption is definitely a problem and has been for generations. I canāt argue with you on that point. To be fair corruption is a big problem all throughout our government.
I might argue that the reason there were not more police before 1900 is that our nation was far more religious before than after 1900. The problem is it is hard to find data for that time frame. ,
I did find this graph for homicide rates that indicates things went downhill after 1900. That might have caused a demand for police.
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It does seem those who agree with you are having a chance to defund the police in our nation. Itās an interesting experiment but doesnāt seem to be working well at this point.
I found this first link to be fair and basically unbiased on the subject.
'Defund the police': What it means and what the research says
We explore what ādefund the policeā means, recent academic scholarship and what the future of policing in America might look like.journalistsresource.org
Poll: 75% say āDefund the Policeā caused violent crime wave
(The Center Square) ā Three out of four Americans say defunding police departments has contributed to the rise in violent crime across the country, according to a new poll.www.khq.com
FBI Statistics Show a 30% Increase in Murder in 2020. More Evidence That Defunding Police Wasnāt a Good Idea.
The surge in violent crime over the past yearāmurders in particularāhas been astounding and historic. The numbers back this up and paint a grim picture. Property crime is generally down, but violent crime is way, way up. The murder rate rose by nearly 30% in 2020, more than any other time in the...www.heritage.org
Pelosi Claims āDefund the Policeā Is āNot the Position of the Democratic Partyā
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) on Sunday claimed that ādefund the policeā is ānot the position of the Democratic Partyā after Representative Cori Bush (D., Mo.) recently endorsed the slogan.news.yahoo.com
I only read the first link, but had to disagree.
Getting back to the original graph, the increase in crime after 1900 likely corresponds to the increase in mobility, from cars, trains, buses, etc., that depersonalized society more, combined with the rise of multi national corporations that tried to take over the lives of workers as virtual slaves.
I disagree that changes in defunding police resulted in increased crime rates.
I believe those increases in crime rates were from covid lock down stress, that had nothing to do with any defunding. In fact, I do not believe any police force ever was defunded at all.
I believe the idea police reduce crimes is totally false.
I think the times police actually prevent a crime in progress is about zero.
All they ever do is collect evidence after the fact, and they often prosecute the wrong people intentionally, just to look good.
They actually function mostly as a revenue source for corrupt government, which then generates so much resentment, that police are likely the single greatest source of crime.
And let us not forget that all government becomes corrupt eventually, if not corrupt from the start, and it is the police who then allow for evil dictatorships. If not for the Gestapo, Stasi, Tonton Macaque, etc., these dictators would never have been possible. We create police at our own peril. Their corruption is inevitable. We do not sign their paychecks. Wealthy elite do.
The only criticism we can have for before 1900 when police essentially did not exist, is that there may have been more lynching.