Mother Mary is here to stay

[ding]

He said he turned water into wine for her because of her merely mentioning the wedding party had run out.

You should probably treat his mother with a little more respect.

He said he turned water into wine for her because of her merely mentioning the wedding party had run out.

You should probably treat his mother with a little more respect

Lol...wow...really

And when they ran out of wine,
the mother of Jesus said to Him,
"They have no wine."

Jesus said to her, "Woman, what does your concern
have to do with me? My hour has not yet come."

You should give God and Jesus more respect.

Jesus didn't turn water into wine for Mary,
because she mentioned there was no wine...

THERE IS SIGNIFICANCE TO THE STORY

3rd day

wedding

water into wine

master of the house

servants

bridegroom

Right. And then Jesus proceeded to turn water into wine for no other reason than Mary mentioned they had run out. She didn’t ask him to do it. He even commented it was of no concern of his, but he did it anyway for her.

Why else do you think the account was told that way? Do you believe her passing comment that they had run out of wine was important for us to know for some other reason? If it was of no concern to Jesus that they had run out of wine, why did he turn water into wine for them if not for his mother's passing comment?

I'm guessing you are a JW.

You said...

He said he turned water into wine for her because of her merely mentioning the wedding party had run out.

Which was and is, a lie.

You have the audacity to tell me,
I should probably treat His mother,
with a little more respect....

This, coming from someone who is blind,
following and listening to others, that are blind,

who can't even capitalize a letter, when referring to Him,
stating things He never said, claiming things, no where in Scripture,
and the basis of your arguments always rely on self...
Not God's Word but, Ding's foolishness


Now its....

Right. And then Jesus proceeded to turn water into wine for no other reason than Mary mentioned they had run out. She didn’t ask him to do it. He even commented it was of no concern of his, but he did it anyway for her.

NO DING A LING...THERE WAS A REASON,
WHICH HAD NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH
HER TELLING HIM, THERE WAS NO MORE WINE....
HE DIDN'T DO IT FOR HER

STOP RELYING ON SELF...YOU'RE SPEAKING LIES

Why else do you think the account was told that way? Do you believe her passing comment that they had run out of wine was important for us to know for some other reason? If it was of no concern to Jesus that they had run out of wine, why did he turn water into wine for them if not for his mother's passing comment?

This beginning of signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee,
and manifested His glory; and His disciples believed in Him

John 2:11

That's why...to manifest His glory, to fulfill Scripture
and as a sign for testimony...I Am He

Furthermore, it is the first, of 7 signs
the Book of John bears witness to,

and occurred on the 3rd day,
following His baptism by John the Baptist
the Holy Spirit descending upon Him,
and John's testimony that He is the Son of God

Jesus doesn't address Mary by her name,
nor does He address her as mother or mom,
He addresses her as woman

When Jesus instructed the servants,
to fill the stone waterpots with water,
they already contained water, used for hand washing
according to Jewish tradition and purification rituals....

Jesus is demonstrating that He is
superior to the rituals and traditions of men
and, keeping with rabbinical teaching
stone could not be ritually defiled.

When Jesus instructed the servants
to draw some out and give it to the master of the feast,
the head waiter of the feast told the bridegroom,
you saved the best wine for last....

Christ used the water, used for ritual cleansing in the Old Covenant
and transformed it into the best wine of the wedding feast.

We are baptized and brought to Christ by faith,
and are saved and brought to God, through the blood of Christ

We have been invited to the wedding by the Bridegroom,
and the Master of the feast, prepared the table

Keep thinking the significance of John 2,
is all about Mary telling Jesus..."They have no wine"

but guessing you are a JW.

Wrong...you are only wise in your own eyes

I don't really see your point. I think you are reading way too much into it. He hadn't even started his ministry yet. Personally, I think you have an ax to grind with Catholics.

I don't really see your point. I think you are reading way too much into it. He hadn't even started his ministry yet. Personally, I think you have an ax to grind with Catholics

Wow...reading way too much into it
Darling, it's obvious to me

I wasn't making a point,
I was sharing the point of the miracle

The significance of what Christ did,
having nothing to do with what Mary said

You should not be trying to see my point,
you should see if what I'm stating, aligns with Gods Word

Again, you are wrong...Jesus had begun His ministry
Why do you not know the Father, nor the Son,
whom you profess to belong to and place your faith in?

I don't have a problem with Catholics,
I have a problem with religion and teachings,
as far as, where the God and Father of Christ are concerned.

Frankly, it wouldn't matter if I had an ax to grind,
it matters whether or not, God has an ax to grind

God is not a big fan of lip service. You should worry about yourself and let others worry about themselves.

 

[keepitreal]

Lol...wow...really

And when they ran out of wine,
the mother of Jesus said to Him,
"They have no wine."

Jesus said to her, "Woman, what does your concern
have to do with me? My hour has not yet come."

You should give God and Jesus more respect.

Jesus didn't turn water into wine for Mary,
because she mentioned there was no wine...

THERE IS SIGNIFICANCE TO THE STORY

3rd day

wedding

water into wine

master of the house

servants

bridegroom

Right. And then Jesus proceeded to turn water into wine for no other reason than Mary mentioned they had run out. She didn’t ask him to do it. He even commented it was of no concern of his, but he did it anyway for her.

Why else do you think the account was told that way? Do you believe her passing comment that they had run out of wine was important for us to know for some other reason? If it was of no concern to Jesus that they had run out of wine, why did he turn water into wine for them if not for his mother's passing comment?

I'm guessing you are a JW.

You said...

He said he turned water into wine for her because of her merely mentioning the wedding party had run out.

Which was and is, a lie.

You have the audacity to tell me,
I should probably treat His mother,
with a little more respect....

This, coming from someone who is blind,
following and listening to others, that are blind,

who can't even capitalize a letter, when referring to Him,
stating things He never said, claiming things, no where in Scripture,
and the basis of your arguments always rely on self...
Not God's Word but, Ding's foolishness


Now its....

Right. And then Jesus proceeded to turn water into wine for no other reason than Mary mentioned they had run out. She didn’t ask him to do it. He even commented it was of no concern of his, but he did it anyway for her.

NO DING A LING...THERE WAS A REASON,
WHICH HAD NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH
HER TELLING HIM, THERE WAS NO MORE WINE....
HE DIDN'T DO IT FOR HER

STOP RELYING ON SELF...YOU'RE SPEAKING LIES

Why else do you think the account was told that way? Do you believe her passing comment that they had run out of wine was important for us to know for some other reason? If it was of no concern to Jesus that they had run out of wine, why did he turn water into wine for them if not for his mother's passing comment?

This beginning of signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee,
and manifested His glory; and His disciples believed in Him

John 2:11

That's why...to manifest His glory, to fulfill Scripture
and as a sign for testimony...I Am He

Furthermore, it is the first, of 7 signs
the Book of John bears witness to,

and occurred on the 3rd day,
following His baptism by John the Baptist
the Holy Spirit descending upon Him,
and John's testimony that He is the Son of God

Jesus doesn't address Mary by her name,
nor does He address her as mother or mom,
He addresses her as woman

When Jesus instructed the servants,
to fill the stone waterpots with water,
they already contained water, used for hand washing
according to Jewish tradition and purification rituals....

Jesus is demonstrating that He is
superior to the rituals and traditions of men
and, keeping with rabbinical teaching
stone could not be ritually defiled.

When Jesus instructed the servants
to draw some out and give it to the master of the feast,
the head waiter of the feast told the bridegroom,
you saved the best wine for last....

Christ used the water, used for ritual cleansing in the Old Covenant
and transformed it into the best wine of the wedding feast.

We are baptized and brought to Christ by faith,
and are saved and brought to God, through the blood of Christ

We have been invited to the wedding by the Bridegroom,
and the Master of the feast, prepared the table

Keep thinking the significance of John 2,
is all about Mary telling Jesus..."They have no wine"

but guessing you are a JW.

Wrong...you are only wise in your own eyes

I don't really see your point. I think you are reading way too much into it. He hadn't even started his ministry yet. Personally, I think you have an ax to grind with Catholics.

I don't really see your point. I think you are reading way too much into it. He hadn't even started his ministry yet. Personally, I think you have an ax to grind with Catholics

Wow...reading way too much into it
Darling, it's obvious to me

I wasn't making a point,
I was sharing the point of the miracle

The significance of what Christ did,
having nothing to do with what Mary said

You should not be trying to see my point,
you should see if what I'm stating, aligns with Gods Word

Again, you are wrong...Jesus had begun His ministry
Why do you not know the Father, nor the Son,
whom you profess to belong to and place your faith in?

I don't have a problem with Catholics,
I have a problem with religion and teachings,
as far as, where the God and Father of Christ are concerned.

Frankly, it wouldn't matter if I had an ax to grind,
it matters whether or not, God has an ax to grind

God is not a big fan of lip service. You should worry about yourself and let others worry about themselves.

God is not a big fan of lip service. You should worry about yourself and let others worry about themselves.

He certainly is not...
keep that in mind when you make up things He didn't say,
or make claims that are not found in or supported by Scripture

Calling out your lies, using the Word of God, is my business

 

[LittleNipper]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross. However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

 

[ding]

Right. And then Jesus proceeded to turn water into wine for no other reason than Mary mentioned they had run out. She didn’t ask him to do it. He even commented it was of no concern of his, but he did it anyway for her.

Why else do you think the account was told that way? Do you believe her passing comment that they had run out of wine was important for us to know for some other reason? If it was of no concern to Jesus that they had run out of wine, why did he turn water into wine for them if not for his mother's passing comment?

I'm guessing you are a JW.

You said...

He said he turned water into wine for her because of her merely mentioning the wedding party had run out.

Which was and is, a lie.

You have the audacity to tell me,
I should probably treat His mother,
with a little more respect....

This, coming from someone who is blind,
following and listening to others, that are blind,

who can't even capitalize a letter, when referring to Him,
stating things He never said, claiming things, no where in Scripture,
and the basis of your arguments always rely on self...
Not God's Word but, Ding's foolishness


Now its....

Right. And then Jesus proceeded to turn water into wine for no other reason than Mary mentioned they had run out. She didn’t ask him to do it. He even commented it was of no concern of his, but he did it anyway for her.

NO DING A LING...THERE WAS A REASON,
WHICH HAD NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH
HER TELLING HIM, THERE WAS NO MORE WINE....
HE DIDN'T DO IT FOR HER

STOP RELYING ON SELF...YOU'RE SPEAKING LIES

Why else do you think the account was told that way? Do you believe her passing comment that they had run out of wine was important for us to know for some other reason? If it was of no concern to Jesus that they had run out of wine, why did he turn water into wine for them if not for his mother's passing comment?

This beginning of signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee,
and manifested His glory; and His disciples believed in Him

John 2:11

That's why...to manifest His glory, to fulfill Scripture
and as a sign for testimony...I Am He

Furthermore, it is the first, of 7 signs
the Book of John bears witness to,

and occurred on the 3rd day,
following His baptism by John the Baptist
the Holy Spirit descending upon Him,
and John's testimony that He is the Son of God

Jesus doesn't address Mary by her name,
nor does He address her as mother or mom,
He addresses her as woman

When Jesus instructed the servants,
to fill the stone waterpots with water,
they already contained water, used for hand washing
according to Jewish tradition and purification rituals....

Jesus is demonstrating that He is
superior to the rituals and traditions of men
and, keeping with rabbinical teaching
stone could not be ritually defiled.

When Jesus instructed the servants
to draw some out and give it to the master of the feast,
the head waiter of the feast told the bridegroom,
you saved the best wine for last....

Christ used the water, used for ritual cleansing in the Old Covenant
and transformed it into the best wine of the wedding feast.

We are baptized and brought to Christ by faith,
and are saved and brought to God, through the blood of Christ

We have been invited to the wedding by the Bridegroom,
and the Master of the feast, prepared the table

Keep thinking the significance of John 2,
is all about Mary telling Jesus..."They have no wine"

but guessing you are a JW.

Wrong...you are only wise in your own eyes

I don't really see your point. I think you are reading way too much into it. He hadn't even started his ministry yet. Personally, I think you have an ax to grind with Catholics.

I don't really see your point. I think you are reading way too much into it. He hadn't even started his ministry yet. Personally, I think you have an ax to grind with Catholics

Wow...reading way too much into it
Darling, it's obvious to me

I wasn't making a point,
I was sharing the point of the miracle

The significance of what Christ did,
having nothing to do with what Mary said

You should not be trying to see my point,
you should see if what I'm stating, aligns with Gods Word

Again, you are wrong...Jesus had begun His ministry
Why do you not know the Father, nor the Son,
whom you profess to belong to and place your faith in?

I don't have a problem with Catholics,
I have a problem with religion and teachings,
as far as, where the God and Father of Christ are concerned.

Frankly, it wouldn't matter if I had an ax to grind,
it matters whether or not, God has an ax to grind

God is not a big fan of lip service. You should worry about yourself and let others worry about themselves.

God is not a big fan of lip service. You should worry about yourself and let others worry about themselves.

He certainly is not...
keep that in mind when you make up things He didn't say,
or make claims that are not found in or supported by Scripture

Calling out your lies, using the Word of God, is my business

What did I make up?

 

[keepitreal]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross. However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross. However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

I can understand you just fine and agree with you...
It's the other poster I can't understand

 

[LittleNipper]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross. However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross. However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

I can understand you just fine and agree with you...
It's the other poster I can't understand

Sorry! Sometimes it's hard to figure who is saying what about whom?

 

[zaangalewa]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Nein. Your problem is the stone in your head.

 

[zaangalewa]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross.

If so then god betrayed mother Mary.

However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

 

[Taz]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross.

If so then god betrayed mother Mary.

However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

Wasn't god the one who raped Mary?

 

[zaangalewa]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross.

If so then god betrayed mother Mary.

However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

Wasn't god the one who raped Mary?

Exists in this forum here the possibility to forbid you to give an answer to anything what I say, Nazi?

 

[Taz]

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross.

If so then god betrayed mother Mary.

However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

Wasn't god the one who raped Mary?

Exists in this forum here the possibility to forbid you to give an answer to anything what I say, Nazi?

Did god rape Mary, yes or no?

 

[zaangalewa]

English please

Mary is no different than any of the many righteous Bible Characters. Jesus came to save and that meant that HE would be sacrificed. I'm sure Mary didn't realize that her little boy would one day die on the cross.

If so then god betrayed mother Mary.

However, it was foretold in book of Isaiah and other places in the Old Testament. Jesus is GOD in the flesh. What HE chose to accomplish could not have been changed by Mary.

Wasn't god the one who raped Mary?

Exists in this forum here the possibility to forbid you to give an answer to anything what I say, Nazi?

Did god rape Mary, yes or no?

Let it be to try to speak with me!

 

[zaangalewa]

I believe that Mary was highly regarded among others sinners. She needed the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as much as anyone else ever did.

What a nonsense. Since when needs a mother the death of her child? Since when sacrifices a mother her child for to save you? Are you crazy?

I do not believe Mary is queen of heaven, nor does she presently know what is happening here on this planet anymore than anyone else who is among those saved by the grace of GOD through Jesus the Messiah. Mary has her place among Ester, Sarah, and even Rahab. They all have a share in the coming of the Messiah and they are all read about in the Bible...

English please

Nein. Your problem is the stone in your head.

Lol...yeah, o.k. but...
have you figured out what your problem is?

Everyones ideology which leads to death and not to life.

 

[Taz]

Especially German ideology.

 

[zaangalewa]

Especially German ideology.

You never understand anything, isn't it?

 

[there4eyeM]

As long as society chooses to keep humans weak and childish, traditions such as concern "Mary" will continue.

 

[zaangalewa]

As long as society chooses to keep humans weak and childish, traditions such as concern "Mary" will continue.

As long as society chooses to keep human beings stupid and pathetic mother Mary will continue to help to find the way to her son.

 

[Taz]

As long as society chooses to keep humans weak and childish, traditions such as concern "Mary" will continue.

As long as society chooses to keep human beings stupid and pathetic mother Mary will continue to help to find the way to her son.

Mary was a rape victim.

 

[there4eyeM]

"Mary" is dead. The dead can do nothing for the living.

 

[zaangalewa]

As long as society chooses to keep humans weak and childish, traditions such as concern "Mary" will continue.

As long as society chooses to keep human beings stupid and pathetic mother Mary will continue to help to find the way to her son.

Mary was a rape victim.

And you are a victim of a selfmade brain amputation. Therapy: