Mosul Falls to Iraqi Security Forces

[NYcarbineer]

In WWII we liberated an entire continent in about the same time frame it took to retake Mosul.

And how many Americans died in Mosul?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

In WWII we liberated an entire continent in about the same time frame it took to retake Mosul.

And how many Americans died in Mosul?

Wooosh, right over Dumb Deer's noodle

 

[NYcarbineer]

In WWII we liberated an entire continent in about the same time frame it took to retake Mosul.

And how many Americans died in Mosul?

Wooosh, right over Dumb Deer's noodle

Why denigrate the Iraqis?

 

[JGalt]

Conservatives love to see dead US soldiers so they have some political fodder to play with. These vampires sucked on the necks of four dead at Ben Gassy for four straight years and then declared 'oh sorry, nothing to see here'. Then they martyr US dead just as Isis or Hezbollah do.

Are you serious? Who in their right mind would believe such a thing?

Wait, you're trolling, right? Because your last two posts contradict each other.

For a simple mind I'm sure they do. That you can only see in huge generalities is your affair. Not to worry, there are plenty of conservatives grunters here that also cannot understand anything more complex than rock, paper, scissors. And that's fine. Just don't pretend to carry on a conversation above that level.

Dudeski. You really have some catching up to do...

On the negative view of education conservatives have

 

[NYcarbineer]

In WWII we liberated an entire continent in about the same time frame it took to retake Mosul.

And how many Americans died in Mosul?

Wooosh, right over Dumb Deer's noodle

The battle was also the world's single largest military operation in nearly 15 years,[50] as well as being the most brutal urban battle since World War II.[68]

 

[JGalt]

Obama went cold turkey.............left Intel capabilities............and stayed on the side lines while ISIS took Iraq..............

Obama withdrawal allowed this shit to happen, and forced us to return later......only after Attrocities forced him back.

You're such a liar.
Trump Embraces Pillars of Obama’s Foreign Policy

How is that a Lie.........................Obama pulled the Fuck out and ISIS moved the Fuck in under his term. Which part of that did I miss.

Said no boots..............then put boots........Typical Lying politicians.

In regards to Trump................he has always stated that the battles should be managed by the professionals of the military. They and our troops know their shit when not handcuffed by ROE's..............

KURDS..................are some of the hardest fighting SOB's in the World now...........Our forces compared them to the Marines............in parts of Mosul ISIS met some Pissed off Kurds..............who are tired of being killed by everyone...........ISIS is regretting having to fight them.

How many Americans died fighting ISIS?

I can tell you're a "glass half empty" kinda guy.

I prefer to ask "How many ISIS died fighting Americans" and hear someone say "All of them."

 

[NYcarbineer]

The import part is that Iraqi forces did the dirty work. Not us troops.

Note not a word of praise for the Iraqis from the usual suspects around here.

 

[JGalt]

The import part is that Iraqi forces did the dirty work. Not us troops.

Note not a word of praise for the Iraqis from the usual suspects around here.

Ok then. Allah hu akbar!

Satisfied now?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Obama went cold turkey.............left Intel capabilities............and stayed on the side lines while ISIS took Iraq..............

Obama withdrawal allowed this shit to happen, and forced us to return later......only after Attrocities forced him back.

You're such a liar.
Trump Embraces Pillars of Obama’s Foreign Policy

How is that a Lie.........................Obama pulled the Fuck out and ISIS moved the Fuck in under his term. Which part of that did I miss.

Said no boots..............then put boots........Typical Lying politicians.

In regards to Trump................he has always stated that the battles should be managed by the professionals of the military. They and our troops know their shit when not handcuffed by ROE's..............

KURDS..................are some of the hardest fighting SOB's in the World now...........Our forces compared them to the Marines............in parts of Mosul ISIS met some Pissed off Kurds..............who are tired of being killed by everyone...........ISIS is regretting having to fight them.

How many Americans died fighting ISIS?

I can tell you're a "glass half empty" kinda guy.

I prefer to ask "How many ISIS died fighting Americans" and hear someone say "All of them."

You think it's a shame that so few Americans have died in the fight against ISIS? what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[JGalt]

Obama went cold turkey.............left Intel capabilities............and stayed on the side lines while ISIS took Iraq..............

Obama withdrawal allowed this shit to happen, and forced us to return later......only after Attrocities forced him back.

You're such a liar.
Trump Embraces Pillars of Obama’s Foreign Policy

How is that a Lie.........................Obama pulled the Fuck out and ISIS moved the Fuck in under his term. Which part of that did I miss.

Said no boots..............then put boots........Typical Lying politicians.

In regards to Trump................he has always stated that the battles should be managed by the professionals of the military. They and our troops know their shit when not handcuffed by ROE's..............

KURDS..................are some of the hardest fighting SOB's in the World now...........Our forces compared them to the Marines............in parts of Mosul ISIS met some Pissed off Kurds..............who are tired of being killed by everyone...........ISIS is regretting having to fight them.

How many Americans died fighting ISIS?

I can tell you're a "glass half empty" kinda guy.

I prefer to ask "How many ISIS died fighting Americans" and hear someone say "All of them."

You think it's a shame that so few Americans have died in the fight against ISIS? what the fuck is wrong with you?

You think it's a shame that more Americans haven't died in the fight against ISIS? what the fuck is wrong with you?

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Conservatives love to see dead US soldiers so they have some political fodder to play with. These vampires sucked on the necks of four dead at Ben Gassy for four straight years and then declared 'oh sorry, nothing to see here'. Then they martyr US dead just as Isis or Hezbollah do.

Yeah Benghazi. A place where no US consulate should have been. Situated in a lawless land created by a unsanctioned war initiated by a war criminal president. A president who had no Congressional approval, declaration of war, or even the approval of the American people, to wage his little war.

Did I miss anything?

*****SMILE*****

 

[deltex1]

After a long drawn out fight, Iraqi Security Forces with Coalition Partners have retaken Mosul in Iraq. Article from Centcom praising the victory.

Iraqi Security Forces liberate Mosul > U.S. Central Command > Press Release View

SOUTHWEST ASIA – The Coalition welcomes Prime Minister al-Abadi’s announcement of Iraq’s victory in Mosul and we congratulate the Iraqi Security Forces on their remarkable progress against ISIS while making extraordinary efforts to safeguard civilian lives.

While there are still areas of the Old City of Mosul that must be back-cleared of explosive devices and possible ISIS fighters in hiding, the ISF have Mosul now firmly under their control.

“The global Coalition fighting ISIS congratulates Prime Minister al-Abadi and the Iraqi Security Forces on their historic victory against a brutal and evil enemy. Make no mistake; this victory alone does not eliminate ISIS and there is still a tough fight ahead. But the loss of one of its twin capitals and a jewel of their so-called caliphate is a decisive blow,” said Lt. Gen. Stephen J. Townsend, commanding general of Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve.

Iraqi Militia Forces, Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and the global Coalition also deserve a share of the credit for their sacrifices to achieve this hard-won victory.

Great news. Reports indicate Iraqi forces will attempt to take over a nursery school in the western suburbs tomorrow. Estimates the school could be in Iraqi hands by Labor Day.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

After a long drawn out fight, Iraqi Security Forces with Coalition Partners have retaken Mosul in Iraq. Article from Centcom praising the victory.

Iraqi Security Forces liberate Mosul > U.S. Central Command > Press Release View

SOUTHWEST ASIA – The Coalition welcomes Prime Minister al-Abadi’s announcement of Iraq’s victory in Mosul and we congratulate the Iraqi Security Forces on their remarkable progress against ISIS while making extraordinary efforts to safeguard civilian lives.

While there are still areas of the Old City of Mosul that must be back-cleared of explosive devices and possible ISIS fighters in hiding, the ISF have Mosul now firmly under their control.

“The global Coalition fighting ISIS congratulates Prime Minister al-Abadi and the Iraqi Security Forces on their historic victory against a brutal and evil enemy. Make no mistake; this victory alone does not eliminate ISIS and there is still a tough fight ahead. But the loss of one of its twin capitals and a jewel of their so-called caliphate is a decisive blow,” said Lt. Gen. Stephen J. Townsend, commanding general of Combined Joint Task Force – Operation Inherent Resolve.

Iraqi Militia Forces, Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and the global Coalition also deserve a share of the credit for their sacrifices to achieve this hard-won victory.

Great news. Reports indicate Iraqi forces will attempt to take over a nursery school in the western suburbs tomorrow. Estimates the school could be in Iraqi hands by Labor Day.

The left bemoans endless wars, taking 3-4 years to take one city will be one long ass war

 

[eagle1462010]

In 2004 the United States took the place in 8 days..............but at that time the number of forces to compare would be Fallujah the second battle took place here.

Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia

Coalition forces[edit]
Before beginning their attack, U.S. and Iraqi forces had established checkpoints around the city to prevent anyone from entering the city, and to intercept insurgents attempting to flee.

In addition, overhead imagery was used to prepare maps of the city for use by the attackers. American units were augmented by Iraqi interpreters to assist them in the planned fight. After weeks of withstanding air strikes and artillery bombardment, the militants holed up in the city appeared to be vulnerable to direct attack.

U.S., Iraqi and British forces totaled about 13,500. The U.S. had gathered some 6,500 Marines and 1,500 Army soldiers that would take part in the assault with about 2,500 Navy personnel in operational and support roles.[3] U.S. troops were grouped in two Regimental Combat Teams: Regimental Combat Team 1 comprised 3rd Battalion/1st Marines, 3rd Battalion/5th Marines, Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 4 and 23 (Seabees) as well as the U.S. Army's 2nd Battalion/7th Cavalry. Regimental Combat Team 7 comprised the 1st Battalion/8th Marines, 1st Battalion/3rd Marines, the U.S. Army's 2nd Battalion/2nd Infantry,2nd Battalion/12th Cavalry and 1st battalion 6th field artillery.[24] About 2,000 Iraqi troops assisted with the assault.[3] All were supported by aircraft U.S. Marine and U.S. Army artillery battalions and USSOCOM Sniper Elements.

The 850-strong 1st Battalion of the Black Watch was ordered to help U.S. and Iraqi forces with the encirclement of Fallujah.[25] As part of Task Force Black, D Squadron of the British SAS prepared to take part in the operation, but due to British political nervousness about the possible scale of casualties stopped any direct UK involvement in the ground battle.[26]

Insurgent forces[edit]
In April, Fallujah was defended by about 500 "hardcore" and 1,000+ "part time" insurgents. By November, it was estimated that the numbers had doubled.[27] Another estimate put the number of insurgents at 3,000; however, a number of insurgent leaders escaped before the attack.[28]

Fallujah was occupied by virtually every insurgent group in Iraq: al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), Islamic Army of Iraq (IAI), Ansar al-Sunna, Army of Mohammed (AOM), the Army of the Mujahedeen and the Secret Islamic Army of Iraq. Three groups, (AQI, IAI and the National Islamic Army (1920 Revolution Brigade)) had their nationwide headquarters in Fallujah. An estimated 2,000 insurgents were from the Army of Mohammed (made up of ex Fedayeen Saddam fighters), Ansar al-Sunna and various smaller Iraqi groups.[29]

The Iraqi insurgents and foreign mujahadeen present in the city prepared fortified defenses in advance of the anticipated attack.[18][30] They dug tunnels, trenches, prepared spider holes, and built and hid a wide variety of IEDs.[18][30] In some locations they filled the interiors of darkened homes with large numbers of propane bottles, large drums of gasoline, and ordnance, all wired to a remote trigger that could be set off by an insurgent when troops entered the building. They blocked streets with Jersey barriers and even emplaced them within homes to create strong points behind which they could attack unsuspecting troops entering the building.[31]Insurgents were equipped with a variety of advanced small arms, and had captured a variety of U.S. armament, including M14s, M16s, body armor, uniforms and helmets.[31]

They booby-trapped buildings and vehicles, including wiring doors and windows to grenades and other ordnance. Anticipating U.S. tactics to seize the roof of high buildings, they bricked up stairwells to the roofs of many buildings, creating paths into prepared fields of fire which they hoped the troops would enter.[31]

Intelligence briefings given prior to battle reported that coalition forces would encounter Chechen, Filipino, Saudi, Libyan, and Syrian combatants, as well as native Iraqis.[32]

 

[SassyIrishLass]

In 2004 the United States took the place in 8 days..............but at that time the number of forces to compare would be Fallujah the second battle took place here.

Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia

Coalition forces[edit]
Before beginning their attack, U.S. and Iraqi forces had established checkpoints around the city to prevent anyone from entering the city, and to intercept insurgents attempting to flee.

In addition, overhead imagery was used to prepare maps of the city for use by the attackers. American units were augmented by Iraqi interpreters to assist them in the planned fight. After weeks of withstanding air strikes and artillery bombardment, the militants holed up in the city appeared to be vulnerable to direct attack.

U.S., Iraqi and British forces totaled about 13,500. The U.S. had gathered some 6,500 Marines and 1,500 Army soldiers that would take part in the assault with about 2,500 Navy personnel in operational and support roles.[3] U.S. troops were grouped in two Regimental Combat Teams: Regimental Combat Team 1 comprised 3rd Battalion/1st Marines, 3rd Battalion/5th Marines, Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 4 and 23 (Seabees) as well as the U.S. Army's 2nd Battalion/7th Cavalry. Regimental Combat Team 7 comprised the 1st Battalion/8th Marines, 1st Battalion/3rd Marines, the U.S. Army's 2nd Battalion/2nd Infantry,2nd Battalion/12th Cavalry and 1st battalion 6th field artillery.[24] About 2,000 Iraqi troops assisted with the assault.[3] All were supported by aircraft U.S. Marine and U.S. Army artillery battalions and USSOCOM Sniper Elements.

The 850-strong 1st Battalion of the Black Watch was ordered to help U.S. and Iraqi forces with the encirclement of Fallujah.[25] As part of Task Force Black, D Squadron of the British SAS prepared to take part in the operation, but due to British political nervousness about the possible scale of casualties stopped any direct UK involvement in the ground battle.[26]

Insurgent forces[edit]
In April, Fallujah was defended by about 500 "hardcore" and 1,000+ "part time" insurgents. By November, it was estimated that the numbers had doubled.[27] Another estimate put the number of insurgents at 3,000; however, a number of insurgent leaders escaped before the attack.[28]

Fallujah was occupied by virtually every insurgent group in Iraq: al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), Islamic Army of Iraq (IAI), Ansar al-Sunna, Army of Mohammed (AOM), the Army of the Mujahedeen and the Secret Islamic Army of Iraq. Three groups, (AQI, IAI and the National Islamic Army (1920 Revolution Brigade)) had their nationwide headquarters in Fallujah. An estimated 2,000 insurgents were from the Army of Mohammed (made up of ex Fedayeen Saddam fighters), Ansar al-Sunna and various smaller Iraqi groups.[29]

The Iraqi insurgents and foreign mujahadeen present in the city prepared fortified defenses in advance of the anticipated attack.[18][30] They dug tunnels, trenches, prepared spider holes, and built and hid a wide variety of IEDs.[18][30] In some locations they filled the interiors of darkened homes with large numbers of propane bottles, large drums of gasoline, and ordnance, all wired to a remote trigger that could be set off by an insurgent when troops entered the building. They blocked streets with Jersey barriers and even emplaced them within homes to create strong points behind which they could attack unsuspecting troops entering the building.[31]Insurgents were equipped with a variety of advanced small arms, and had captured a variety of U.S. armament, including M14s, M16s, body armor, uniforms and helmets.[31]

They booby-trapped buildings and vehicles, including wiring doors and windows to grenades and other ordnance. Anticipating U.S. tactics to seize the roof of high buildings, they bricked up stairwells to the roofs of many buildings, creating paths into prepared fields of fire which they hoped the troops would enter.[31]

Intelligence briefings given prior to battle reported that coalition forces would encounter Chechen, Filipino, Saudi, Libyan, and Syrian combatants, as well as native Iraqis.[32]

Fallujah was a meat grinder. Bad, bad, bad

 

[deltex1]

Conservatives love to see dead US soldiers so they have some political fodder to play with. These vampires sucked on the necks of four dead at Ben Gassy for four straight years and then declared 'oh sorry, nothing to see here'. Then they martyr US dead just as Isis or Hezbollah do.

Yo Fig......GFY.

 

[JGalt]

In 2004 the United States took the place in 8 days..............but at that time the number of forces to compare would be Fallujah the second battle took place here.

Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia

Thank you sir for posting that. It was very informative.

 

[eagle1462010]

While I am happy that this is done................While I'm happy that ISIS is losing ground.....................

The Iraqi Forces outnumbered ISIS 10 to 1. Estimates are 10,000 ISIS versus 100,000 coalition forces. Took them a long damn time to take this place with that kind of superior forces..............

Our forces back in the day went in relentless...........Kicked ass and took names.............Paid a price in blood...........

Only for a future President to hand it over to ISIS when he decided a complete removal of all forces from Iraq..........That is why this battle is necessary today and why some of us don't give a crap about his strategy when he helped hand the place over to ISIS in the first place.

 

[eagle1462010]

In 2004 the United States took the place in 8 days..............but at that time the number of forces to compare would be Fallujah the second battle took place here.

Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia

Thank you sir for posting that. It was very informative.

My nephew was disabled by a IED in that battle. Permanently disabled.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

In 2004 the United States took the place in 8 days..............but at that time the number of forces to compare would be Fallujah the second battle took place here.

Second Battle of Fallujah - Wikipedia

Thank you sir for posting that. It was very informative.

My nephew was disabled by a IED in that battle. Permanently disabled.

It's where my best friend fell