Moscow propagandists are already calling Alaska "ours". my MAGA and commie friends, maybe its to Moscow empire to " find out "?

[Godboy]

You better count their birth ratio and how many new Muslims were born there. While 'the greatest nation on earth' is steadily losing its population due to drag addiction, domestic violence and other pleasant things and being replaced with guests from the South.

Wars arent won by who has the bigger population.

 

[ESay]

Wars arent won by who has the bigger population.

Never said that. But you measure your success by a number of your killed 'enemies'. And I said that with the numbers these enemies exist today (especially that even inside the US their numbers are growing) you failed miserably.

Is this understandable for you? Or there are some words and grammar constructions in my post you can't grasp?

 

[Litwin]

It's just forepley. Almost nothing comparing with what we could and may be should do.

I dont think so, you have lost literally all your spetsnaz in Ukraine , your economy is in rubble , no allies, no real FRIENDS . So what your empire could do to Alaska or California ?

Russia’s Elite Spetsnaz Special Forces 'Devastated' in Ukraine War

Russia's Spetsnaz special operations forces, among the most elite military units in Russia, have been severely impacted in Ukraine. Initially tasked with high-stakes missions, including decapitation strikes on Ukrainian leadership, Spetsnaz units have faced devastating losses, especially during...

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sounds like 1917? dont you think so ?

 

[Godboy]

Never said that. But you measure your success by a number of your killed 'enemies'. And I said that with the numbers these enemies exist today (especially that even inside the US their numbers are growing) you failed miserably.

Is this understandable for you? Or there are some words and grammar constructions in my post you can't grasp?

Bombs can kill a lot of muslims. Who cares if there are more born? We can just make more bombs.

 

[Litwin]

You needed a few more choices in the poll.

Saying No doesn't necessarily think you believe Russia is to strong.

so you voted No ?
here you can read a possible invasion scenario , from our Moscow forum member

Moscow propagandists are already calling Alaska "ours". my MAGA and commie friends, maybe its to Moscow empire to " find out "?

The ONLY reason that Russia got away with Annexation of Donbass and Crimea (and not really) was that despite the Treaty signed in '98 or '99 by the US and all of NATO they really didn't honor it. Obama really didn't care and Trump was too busy to do anything as well. (Bad advisors...Trump's...

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[ESay]

Bombs can kill a lot of muslims. Who cares if there are more born? We can just make more bombs.

You can? You struggled to supply Ukraine. Where will you get more bombs for the Middle East? In China maybe.

 

[Litwin]

Soldiers fighting for a just cause don’t hide their faces. This shame speaks louder than any words...

 

[Godboy]

You can? You struggled to supply Ukraine. Where will you get more bombs for the Middle East? In China maybe.

The Ukrainian military is not even remotely close to the US military.

 

[HikerGuy83]

so you voted No ?
here you can read a possible invasion scenario , from our Moscow forum member

Moscow propagandists are already calling Alaska "ours". my MAGA and commie friends, maybe its to Moscow empire to " find out "?

The ONLY reason that Russia got away with Annexation of Donbass and Crimea (and not really) was that despite the Treaty signed in '98 or '99 by the US and all of NATO they really didn't honor it. Obama really didn't care and Trump was too busy to do anything as well. (Bad advisors...Trump's...

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I didn't vote.

I said you need a few other choices.

 

[Zavulon]

I dont think so, you have lost literally all your spetsnaz in Ukraine , your economy is in rubble , no allies, no real FRIENDS . So what your empire could do to Alaska or California ?

Russia’s Elite Spetsnaz Special Forces 'Devastated' in Ukraine War

Russia's Spetsnaz special operations forces, among the most elite military units in Russia, have been severely impacted in Ukraine. Initially tasked with high-stakes missions, including decapitation strikes on Ukrainian leadership, Spetsnaz units have faced devastating losses, especially during...

nationalinterest.org

sounds like 1917? dont you think so ?

You wet dreams and your wishful thinking is your own problem. But, of course, Russia won't just send speznaz to capture White House in Washington (it would be stupid and useless). As well as in other countries (and as well as other countries) Russia will join already started civil war by supporting one of the sides (or may be, both of them).
But while US government keeps control over their nuclear arsenal - Russia will be pretty cautious, because Chinese troops and Russian missiles in Alaska and California will be as intolerable for the USA as American forces in Ukraine are intolerable for Russia, and America will nuke Russia before (or may be, right after) Russian troops actually step on the Alaskian or Californian soil.

 

[Zavulon]

But if (very big IF) American government is reckless enough to raise the bets to the actual attempt to capture Crimea and Novorussia and, therefore, to actual exchange of nuclear strikes, then, of course, Russia will take Alaska (and may be California) as result of the peace deal.
One of the possible scenarios:
1. America do something really provocative, like, say, sending their forces with waving flags in Ukraine. It means (for Russians) that America is ready to nuclear escalation and Russia face the choice - a) leave Ukraine and lost Russia, b) face uncontrollable escalation (which means that USA may nuke Russia first) c) attack US nuclear forces first and force US to acceptable peace.
2. After few unsuccessful diplomatical attempts to explain America graveness of problem (which America read as "harmless sabre-rattling" and "nuclear bluff", and didn't make any attempts to actually prepare to the fight) Russia attack USA, destroy most of their nukes (counter-force strike) and suggest a mutually acceptable peace treaty - America doesn't retaliate, returns Alaska to Russia, give independence to California and American nation continue to exist as a second rank, but still independent nuclear power (something like France or India nowadays) and even keeps their place in SC UN with veto right.
3. If America agree - Russia won, and Alaska became a part of Russia - three (may be more) years without taxes, recognition of private property and local culture (including English and local languages as official regional languages, but excluding homosexual marriages), most of money from local oil and gold production will come to local people and so on... If America disagree and launch counter-value strike, it will be very limited and it effectivness will be decreased even more by Moscow's ABD and civil defense. Say, Russia had the whole Moscow destroyed and 1 million of Moscowites killed. It would be terrible, but pretty acceptable loss. But then:
4. Russia lauch her own counter-value strike agaisnt America, which means virtually total annihilation of the life-supporting American infrastructure, and in one year America lost more than 90% of its population (mostly by refugees). But 10% still in place and, say, continue fighting.
5. And only then Russia (may be with allies) send regular forces in Alaska to annex it and then - to defeat what still exists on the territory of the former USA.

 

[ESay]

The Ukrainian military is not even remotely close to the US military.

Never said it is. But then again - the US military is quite ineffective, especially if take into account the money spent on it annually.

 

[Litwin]

You wet dreams and your wishful thinking is your own problem. But, of course, Russia won't just send speznaz to capture White House in Washington (it would be stupid and useless). As well as in other countries (and as well as other countries) Russia will join already started civil war by supporting one of the sides (or may be, both of them).
But while US government keeps control over their nuclear arsenal - Russia will be pretty cautious, because Chinese troops and Russian missiles in Alaska and California will be as intolerable for the USA as American forces in Ukraine are intolerable for Russia, and America will nuke Russia before (or may be, right after) Russian troops actually step on the Alaskian or Californian soil.

RT .crap

back to the reality :

A second front against Moscow empire opens in South Caucasus after Ukraine​

 

[Litwin]

The Ukrainian military is not even remotely close to the US military.

ON paper ONLY, who killed more Muscovites (in 21c.) ? Americans or Ukrainians ?

 

[Litwin]

 

[JohnDB]

As it was said earlier - "To be effective deterrence must be credible, and to be credible - it should not be suicidal". It is not the question - "Can the USA destroy Moscow in unprovoked out-of-blue attack?" Yes, they can. The real questions are:
1) Can the USA attack Russia in the way, after which Russia won't be able to cause unacceptable damage to the USA? (And what level of damage is acceptable to USA in the current situation?) Answer is "no" for first question, especially if "acceptable damage" in the current situation is pretty low (and it is very low, when we are talking about Crimea and Novorussia and not about Alaska and California).
2) Can Russia attack USA in the way, after which the USA won't be able to cause unacceptable damage to Russia? (And what level of damage is acceptable to Russia in this situation?). And answer is "yes", Russia can decrease possible losses after retaliation strike of survived US nuclear forces to the level much lesser than 20 mln killed (even in pessimistic scenario) and this level is pretty acceptable, if we are speaking about Crimea and Novorussia (or even the very existence of Russian Federation) and not about Alaska and California.


So, if we are talking about details of the video....
1) Moscow, however valuable, is expendable. Napoleon burnt Moscow back in 1812, but lost the war. Biden still can burn Moscow, but, highly likely, it will mean defeat of the USA in the war and, may be, even extinction or American people.
2) 8 warheads per missile means pretty short firing distance and at this distance US SSBN are more vulnerable. Highly likely, that in the Pearl Harbour scenario (US retaliation strike) SSBNs in foward patroling areas were killed before launch.
3) Moscow's ABD can intercept at least 100 incoming warheads. Which means that typical salvo 20 missles x 3 = 60 100 kt warheads of one SSBN will be definitely intercepted.
4) If we are not talking about American out-of-blue attack against sleeping Russian cities (and this scenario is not possible because of many reasons) it means that state-essencial personal (and not city-essencial) personel will be evacuated before US retaliation strike. And city-essencial personel will be sheltered.

So, more likely, that those few survived warheads won't kill more than 100k (mostly state non-essencial) unlucky civilians in Moscow. And Russia already proved that 100k is the pretty acceptable level of losses.

You really didn't understand a thing on that video. EACH reentry vehicle is capable of independent targeting assignments

It is not Moscow that is so valuable as command and control. ALL of the Russian military bases can be simultaneously hit as well as CC of St. Petersburg and Moscow. And that's just ONE missile.

The USA prides itself at putting a missile through a window to hit a terrace in the building next to it. Of course we can limit what is destroyed. And those missiles can be used in an encircling pattern to where the target is a ring around a large city like Moscow....just as effective and with the city itself intact but the radioactive border is an effective border around the city....trapping the occupants to starve and dehydrate slowly due to lack of water.

Thermonuclear devices are horrible....they destroy innocent as well as guilty...and sometimes even that is necessary.

 

[Zavulon]

You really didn't understand a thing on that video. EACH reentry vehicle is capable of independent targeting assignments

It is not Moscow that is so valuable as command and control. ALL of the Russian military bases can be simultaneously hit as well as CC of St. Petersburg and Moscow. And that's just ONE missile.

Russia has a lot of military bases. What is mostly important about them, America can't destroy all Russian nuclear forces before they launched enough missiles to cause unacceptable damage to USA. One US missile, twenty missiles and even the whole nuclear arsenal can't guarantee lack of retaliation.

The USA prides itself at putting a missile through a window to hit a terrace in the building next to it. Of course we can limit what is destroyed. And those missiles can be used in an encircling pattern to where the target is a ring around a large city like Moscow....just as effective and with the city itself intact but the radioactive border is an effective border around the city....trapping the occupants to starve and dehydrate slowly due to lack of water.

Those were pretty fanny sadistic fantasies. The problem is that you can't do it. No one can. In few hours of the burst (even of surface burst) radiation level are low enough to came through them even by foot.

Thermonuclear devices are horrible....they destroy innocent as well as guilty...and sometimes even that is necessary.

No weapon is "horrible".

 

[Godboy]

Never said it is. But then again - the US military is quite ineffective, especially if take into account the money spent on it annually.

If you call trouncing every single enemy "inneffective", then you are dumb.

 

[Godboy]

ON paper ONLY, who killed more Muscovites (in 21c.) ? Americans or Ukrainians ?

The US would win a war against EVERY other nation on Earth combined. Once we cut off your oil supplies, its game over.

 

[Litwin]

The US would win a war against EVERY other nation on Earth combined.

God Bless the USA !

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