more totalitarian bullshit from the supreme court

[blu]

fuck marshall

High Court: Americans Can’t Help Terrorists Liveshots

now we can't send non-violent etc aid to some group just because some asshole in DC calls them a terrorist group?

 

[blu]

will obama go to jail for sending money to gaza? will bush go to jail for help hezbollah? will oliver north go to jail for supporting the contras?

 

[blu]

are people too scared of their government now to comment?

 

[Mad Scientist]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Free speech doesn't include plotting to destroy the USA. Unless you're on our enemies side, which is quite possible if you're a Liberal, what part of that do you not understand?

From the article:

"...all contributions to foreign terrorist organizations--even those for seemingly benign purposes--further those groups' terrorist activities. The Humanitarian Law Project claimed the law violated its First Amendment rights to free speech and assembly. The Court’s ruling said that was not the case.

The HLP website:

Humanitarian Law Project

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The Humanitarian Law Project is a non-profit organization founded in 1985, dedicated to protecting human rights and promoting the peaceful resolution of conflict by using established international human rights laws and humanitarian law. Our long-term objectives are to strengthen human rights standards ratified by nations around the globe and to foster communication on compelling international human rights issues among human rights activists, law faculty and students, members of Congress and their staffs, as well as interested citizens.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Looks like they don't care much for the US or the Constitution. [/SIZE][/FONT]

 

[pans trogladyta]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Free speech doesn't include plotting to destroy the USA. Unless you're on our enemies side, which is quite possible if you're a Liberal, what part of that do you not understand?

From the article:

"...all contributions to foreign terrorist organizations--even those for seemingly benign purposes--further those groups' terrorist activities. The Humanitarian Law Project claimed the law violated its First Amendment rights to free speech and assembly. The Court’s ruling said that was not the case.

The HLP website:

Humanitarian Law Project

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The Humanitarian Law Project is a non-profit organization founded in 1985, dedicated to protecting human rights and promoting the peaceful resolution of conflict by using established international human rights laws and humanitarian law. Our long-term objectives are to strengthen human rights standards ratified by nations around the globe and to foster communication on compelling international human rights issues among human rights activists, law faculty and students, members of Congress and their staffs, as well as interested citizens.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Looks like they don't care much for the US or the Constitution. [/SIZE][/FONT]

Neither do you. I notice you use the old suicide pact nonsense in your reply. Just how is what blu is talking about, a suicide pact?

 

[Barb]

will obama go to jail for sending money to gaza? will bush go to jail for help hezbollah? will oliver north go to jail for supporting the contras?

North, Poindexter, Reagan, and Bush, to name just a FEW should have gone to jail over the funding of the Contras, how that funding flooded American streets with coke, and the subsequent and racially motivated escalation of the "war" on drugs that followed THEIR illegal actions. NOT ONE of them went to jail, and they were the biggest dealers in the country.

Michael Agar, Addiction Research & Theory: The Story Of Crack: Towards A Theory Of Illicit Drug Trends. 27pFeb2003, Vol. 11 Issue 1, p3-29, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Empire State College - Login
Michelle Alexander, Mother Jones The New Jim Crow 8 March, 2010, This story first appeared on the Tom Dispatch website retrieved May 15, 2010 from The New Jim Crow | Mother Jones
Dan Baum, Criminal Justice Tunnel Vision, The War on Drugs, Twelve Years Later, ABA Journal, 1993, March retrieved May 15, 2010 from Empire State College - Login
Richard A Cloward and Francis Fox Priven "Keeping Labor Lean and Hungry." Nation, November 7, 1981: 466-467 accessed December 13, 2009 from Empire State College - Login, 466.
James D. Cockcroft, Latin America, History, Politics, and U.S. Policy Second Ed, Wadsworth USA 1996
Martin Gilens, Why Americans Hate Welfare: Race, Media, and the Politics of Antipoverty Policy The University of Chicago Press, 1999
Holly Karibo. NEOAMERICANIST, Constructing an Image; Pregnant Women, Crack Cocaine, and the Media in American History, Originally published in the Vol. 2 no. 1 (Spring/Summer 2006) issue, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Constructing an Image - Karibo | NeoAmericanist
Lash, Jonathan, Katherine Gillman, and David Sheridan. A Season of Spoils; The Reagan Administration's Attack on the Environment, xi, 6, 27-29, 84-96, 131-142, 159, 164-171, 195-210, and 272.
Andrea Victoria Martinez, Minorities, Mothers And Their Children – The True Victims Of The War On Drugs, retrieved May 15, 2010 from http://lawlib.wlu.edu/works/568-1.pdf
Robert Parry, Salon.com How John Kerry exposed the Contra-cocaine scandal, 25 October 2004, retrieved May 15, 2010 from How John Kerry exposed the Contra-cocaine scandal - Salon.com
Bradley R. Schiller, The Economics of Poverty and Discrimination Tenth Ed. Pearson Prentice Hall, NJ, US, 2008
Tony Whitehead, PhD, Marion Barry, the Incarceration Epidemic, and the Prison-to-Community Cultural Continuum in Washington, DC, CUSAG, The Cultural Systems Analysis Group, University of Maryland, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Powered by Google Docs

 

[Gunny]

fuck marshall

High Court: Americans Can’t Help Terrorists Liveshots

now we can't send non-violent etc aid to some group just because some asshole in DC calls them a terrorist group?

*yawn*

The Constitution is not a suicide decree.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

fuck marshall

High Court: Americans Can’t Help Terrorists Liveshots

now we can't send non-violent etc aid to some group just because some asshole in DC calls them a terrorist group?

So you think it should be ok to help terrorist?

 

[Gunny]

fuck marshall

High Court: Americans Can’t Help Terrorists Liveshots

now we can't send non-violent etc aid to some group just because some asshole in DC calls them a terrorist group?

Fuck YOU.

Only retarded pussies aid terrorists, and NO, it's NOT subjective.

 

[ConHog]

fuck marshall

High Court: Americans Can’t Help Terrorists Liveshots

now we can't send non-violent etc aid to some group just because some asshole in DC calls them a terrorist group?

So you think it should be ok to help terrorist?

At least he admits Obama is an asshole

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Free speech doesn't include plotting to destroy the USA. Unless you're on our enemies side, which is quite possible if you're a Liberal, what part of that do you not understand?

From the article:

"...all contributions to foreign terrorist organizations--even those for seemingly benign purposes--further those groups' terrorist activities. The Humanitarian Law Project claimed the law violated its First Amendment rights to free speech and assembly. The Court’s ruling said that was not the case.

The HLP website:

Humanitarian Law Project

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The Humanitarian Law Project is a non-profit organization founded in 1985, dedicated to protecting human rights and promoting the peaceful resolution of conflict by using established international human rights laws and humanitarian law. Our long-term objectives are to strengthen human rights standards ratified by nations around the globe and to foster communication on compelling international human rights issues among human rights activists, law faculty and students, members of Congress and their staffs, as well as interested citizens.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Looks like they don't care much for the US or the Constitution. [/SIZE][/FONT]

If you are correct that free speech does not include anti government speech, then you should be able to point to the fact that every justice agrees with your position, and the decision is unanimous. Unfortunately for you, you cannot. This is one of the dumbest decisions ever handed down by the court.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Free speech doesn't include plotting to destroy the USA. Unless you're on our enemies side, which is quite possible if you're a Liberal, what part of that do you not understand?

From the article:

"...all contributions to foreign terrorist organizations--even those for seemingly benign purposes--further those groups' terrorist activities. The Humanitarian Law Project claimed the law violated its First Amendment rights to free speech and assembly. The Court’s ruling said that was not the case.

The HLP website:

Humanitarian Law Project

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The Humanitarian Law Project is a non-profit organization founded in 1985, dedicated to protecting human rights and promoting the peaceful resolution of conflict by using established international human rights laws and humanitarian law. Our long-term objectives are to strengthen human rights standards ratified by nations around the globe and to foster communication on compelling international human rights issues among human rights activists, law faculty and students, members of Congress and their staffs, as well as interested citizens.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Looks like they don't care much for the US or the Constitution. [/SIZE][/FONT]

If you are correct that free speech does not include anti government speech, then you should be able to point to the fact that every justice agrees with your position, and the decision is unanimous. Unfortunately for you, you cannot. This is one of the dumbest decisions ever handed down by the court.

Section 3
Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports...with intent to interfere with the operation...of the military or naval forces of the United States...
or say or do anything...to an investor...with intent to obstruct the sale by the United States of bonds or other securities...
and whoever when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause...insubordination... in the military or naval forces of the United States,
or shall willfully obstruct or attempt to obstruct the recruiting or enlistment services of the United States
and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully utter, print, write or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States or the Constitution...or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag...
or shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any language intended to incite, provoke, or encourage resistance to the United States...
or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy
or shall willfully by utterance, writing, printing, publication, or language spoken, urge...any curtailment of production in this country of any thing...necessary...to the prosecution of the war...
and whoever shall willfully advocate...the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated...or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war...
shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or the imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....
Section 4
When the United States is at war, the Postmaster General may, upon evidence...that any person...is using the mails in violation...of this Act, instruct the postmaster at any post office at which mail is received addressed to such person..to return to the postmaster at the office at which they were originally mailed all letters or other matter so addressed...

Sedition Act of 1918

 

[Tech_Esq]

will obama go to jail for sending money to gaza? will bush go to jail for help hezbollah? will oliver north go to jail for supporting the contras?

Yes, Obama should arrest himself if he was doing his job. But, why start doing his job now???

No, Bush will not go to jail, but Obama will think about arresting him (stopped only because it would be doing his job and showing some kind (any kind) of leadership).

No, Ollie will not go to jail, the Contras weren't a designated terrorist organization by the US State Department. (See Reagan didn't step on his own dick like that).

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Free speech doesn't include plotting to destroy the USA. Unless you're on our enemies side, which is quite possible if you're a Liberal, what part of that do you not understand?

From the article:
The HLP website:

Humanitarian Law Project
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Looks like they don't care much for the US or the Constitution. [/SIZE][/FONT]

If you are correct that free speech does not include anti government speech, then you should be able to point to the fact that every justice agrees with your position, and the decision is unanimous. Unfortunately for you, you cannot. This is one of the dumbest decisions ever handed down by the court.

Section 3
Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports...with intent to interfere with the operation...of the military or naval forces of the United States...
or say or do anything...to an investor...with intent to obstruct the sale by the United States of bonds or other securities...
and whoever when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause...insubordination... in the military or naval forces of the United States,
or shall willfully obstruct or attempt to obstruct the recruiting or enlistment services of the United States
and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully utter, print, write or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States or the Constitution...or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag...
or shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any language intended to incite, provoke, or encourage resistance to the United States...
or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy
or shall willfully by utterance, writing, printing, publication, or language spoken, urge...any curtailment of production in this country of any thing...necessary...to the prosecution of the war...
and whoever shall willfully advocate...the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated...or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war...
shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or the imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....
Section 4
When the United States is at war, the Postmaster General may, upon evidence...that any person...is using the mails in violation...of this Act, instruct the postmaster at any post office at which mail is received addressed to such person..to return to the postmaster at the office at which they were originally mailed all letters or other matter so addressed...

Sedition Act of 1918

Are you seriously trying to trump me with the Sedition Act? Get real.

 

[Tech_Esq]

will obama go to jail for sending money to gaza? will bush go to jail for help hezbollah? will oliver north go to jail for supporting the contras?

North, Poindexter, Reagan, and Bush, to name just a FEW should have gone to jail over the funding of the Contras, how that funding flooded American streets with coke, and the subsequent and racially motivated escalation of the "war" on drugs that followed THEIR illegal actions. NOT ONE of them went to jail, and they were the biggest dealers in the country.

Michael Agar, Addiction Research & Theory: The Story Of Crack: Towards A Theory Of Illicit Drug Trends. 27pFeb2003, Vol. 11 Issue 1, p3-29, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Empire State College - Login
Michelle Alexander, Mother Jones The New Jim Crow 8 March, 2010, This story first appeared on the Tom Dispatch website retrieved May 15, 2010 from The New Jim Crow | Mother Jones
Dan Baum, Criminal Justice Tunnel Vision, The War on Drugs, Twelve Years Later, ABA Journal, 1993, March retrieved May 15, 2010 from Empire State College - Login
Richard A Cloward and Francis Fox Priven "Keeping Labor Lean and Hungry." Nation, November 7, 1981: 466-467 accessed December 13, 2009 from Empire State College - Login, 466.
James D. Cockcroft, Latin America, History, Politics, and U.S. Policy Second Ed, Wadsworth USA 1996
Martin Gilens, Why Americans Hate Welfare: Race, Media, and the Politics of Antipoverty Policy The University of Chicago Press, 1999
Holly Karibo. NEOAMERICANIST, Constructing an Image; Pregnant Women, Crack Cocaine, and the Media in American History, Originally published in the Vol. 2 no. 1 (Spring/Summer 2006) issue, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Constructing an Image - Karibo | NeoAmericanist
Lash, Jonathan, Katherine Gillman, and David Sheridan. A Season of Spoils; The Reagan Administration's Attack on the Environment, xi, 6, 27-29, 84-96, 131-142, 159, 164-171, 195-210, and 272.
Andrea Victoria Martinez, Minorities, Mothers And Their Children – The True Victims Of The War On Drugs, retrieved May 15, 2010 from http://lawlib.wlu.edu/works/568-1.pdf
Robert Parry, Salon.com How John Kerry exposed the Contra-cocaine scandal, 25 October 2004, retrieved May 15, 2010 from How John Kerry exposed the Contra-cocaine scandal - Salon.com
Bradley R. Schiller, The Economics of Poverty and Discrimination Tenth Ed. Pearson Prentice Hall, NJ, US, 2008
Tony Whitehead, PhD, Marion Barry, the Incarceration Epidemic, and the Prison-to-Community Cultural Continuum in Washington, DC, CUSAG, The Cultural Systems Analysis Group, University of Maryland, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Powered by Google Docs

Nope, no matter how many links to Radical Left-Wing Socialist and Communist papers you provide, you're still wrong.

Please feel free to leave the wackos and rejoin mainstream society whenever you feel up to it. Nutter.

 

[blu]

fuck marshall

High Court: Americans Can’t Help Terrorists Liveshots

now we can't send non-violent etc aid to some group just because some asshole in DC calls them a terrorist group?

So you think it should be ok to help terrorist?

I don't trust the US government to be able to choose arbitary groups as terrorists. when gun control laws are put into effect and the NRA becomes a terrorist group I will see how you feel.

 

[blu]

fuck marshall

High Court: Americans Can’t Help Terrorists Liveshots

now we can't send non-violent etc aid to some group just because some asshole in DC calls them a terrorist group?

Fuck YOU.

Only retarded pussies aid terrorists, and NO, it's NOT subjective.

you realize obama and any future president can choose any group they want to be a terrorist group right? glad you trust the government so much

 

[blu]

will obama go to jail for sending money to gaza? will bush go to jail for help hezbollah? will oliver north go to jail for supporting the contras?

North, Poindexter, Reagan, and Bush, to name just a FEW should have gone to jail over the funding of the Contras, how that funding flooded American streets with coke, and the subsequent and racially motivated escalation of the "war" on drugs that followed THEIR illegal actions. NOT ONE of them went to jail, and they were the biggest dealers in the country.

Michael Agar, Addiction Research & Theory: The Story Of Crack: Towards A Theory Of Illicit Drug Trends. 27pFeb2003, Vol. 11 Issue 1, p3-29, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Empire State College - Login
Michelle Alexander, Mother Jones The New Jim Crow 8 March, 2010, This story first appeared on the Tom Dispatch website retrieved May 15, 2010 from The New Jim Crow | Mother Jones
Dan Baum, Criminal Justice Tunnel Vision, The War on Drugs, Twelve Years Later, ABA Journal, 1993, March retrieved May 15, 2010 from Empire State College - Login
Richard A Cloward and Francis Fox Priven "Keeping Labor Lean and Hungry." Nation, November 7, 1981: 466-467 accessed December 13, 2009 from Empire State College - Login, 466.
James D. Cockcroft, Latin America, History, Politics, and U.S. Policy Second Ed, Wadsworth USA 1996
Martin Gilens, Why Americans Hate Welfare: Race, Media, and the Politics of Antipoverty Policy The University of Chicago Press, 1999
Holly Karibo. NEOAMERICANIST, Constructing an Image; Pregnant Women, Crack Cocaine, and the Media in American History, Originally published in the Vol. 2 no. 1 (Spring/Summer 2006) issue, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Constructing an Image - Karibo | NeoAmericanist
Lash, Jonathan, Katherine Gillman, and David Sheridan. A Season of Spoils; The Reagan Administration's Attack on the Environment, xi, 6, 27-29, 84-96, 131-142, 159, 164-171, 195-210, and 272.
Andrea Victoria Martinez, Minorities, Mothers And Their Children – The True Victims Of The War On Drugs, retrieved May 15, 2010 from http://lawlib.wlu.edu/works/568-1.pdf
Robert Parry, Salon.com How John Kerry exposed the Contra-cocaine scandal, 25 October 2004, retrieved May 15, 2010 from How John Kerry exposed the Contra-cocaine scandal - Salon.com
Bradley R. Schiller, The Economics of Poverty and Discrimination Tenth Ed. Pearson Prentice Hall, NJ, US, 2008
Tony Whitehead, PhD, Marion Barry, the Incarceration Epidemic, and the Prison-to-Community Cultural Continuum in Washington, DC, CUSAG, The Cultural Systems Analysis Group, University of Maryland, retrieved May 15, 2010 from Powered by Google Docs

Nope, no matter how many links to Radical Left-Wing Socialist and Communist papers you provide, you're still wrong.

Please feel free to leave the wackos and rejoin mainstream society whenever you feel up to it. Nutter.

so the cia didn't fund the contras by selling cocaine in the usa? if you really believe that you are an idiot

 

[ConHog]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Free speech doesn't include plotting to destroy the USA. Unless you're on our enemies side, which is quite possible if you're a Liberal, what part of that do you not understand?

From the article:
The HLP website:

Humanitarian Law Project
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Looks like they don't care much for the US or the Constitution. [/SIZE][/FONT]

If you are correct that free speech does not include anti government speech, then you should be able to point to the fact that every justice agrees with your position, and the decision is unanimous. Unfortunately for you, you cannot. This is one of the dumbest decisions ever handed down by the court.

Section 3
Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports...with intent to interfere with the operation...of the military or naval forces of the United States...
or say or do anything...to an investor...with intent to obstruct the sale by the United States of bonds or other securities...
and whoever when the United States is at war, shall willfully cause or attempt to cause...insubordination... in the military or naval forces of the United States,
or shall willfully obstruct or attempt to obstruct the recruiting or enlistment services of the United States
and whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully utter, print, write or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States or the Constitution...or the military or naval forces of the United States, or the flag...
or shall willfully utter, print, write, or publish any language intended to incite, provoke, or encourage resistance to the United States...
or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy
or shall willfully by utterance, writing, printing, publication, or language spoken, urge...any curtailment of production in this country of any thing...necessary...to the prosecution of the war...
and whoever shall willfully advocate...the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated...or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war...
shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or the imprisonment for not more than twenty years, or both....
Section 4
When the United States is at war, the Postmaster General may, upon evidence...that any person...is using the mails in violation...of this Act, instruct the postmaster at any post office at which mail is received addressed to such person..to return to the postmaster at the office at which they were originally mailed all letters or other matter so addressed...

Sedition Act of 1918

Well, here I am correcting you again.............


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However, t here is nothing prevented those who send money to known terrorist groups from being prosecuted for treason.