More Than A Dozen States Are Trying To Nullify Federal Gun Control

"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

Constitution of United States of America 1789

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, including the Second Amendment.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”


Of course no right is unlimited, but the 2nd amendment is not a right.
Instead it is an absolute prohibition in any federal firearms laws.
Sure it does not prevent state or local firearm laws, but it does deny any federal jurisdiction over firearms.

And as for case law, at one time slavery and segregation were legal.
It has to be clear to anyone that the Dredd Scott decision was totally and completely wrong.
So was Prohibition.
We still have the War on Drugs, 3 strikes, asset forfeiture, and lots of laws that are obviously illegal and need to be ended

And no, the federal law denying felons from arms was only passed in 1968, so is not long standing nor legal in my opinion.
 
With President Joe Biden issuing a flurry of executive actions last week to strengthen federal gun laws, state representatives across the country are working in the opposite direction, taking a page from the playbook of immigration activists by advancing legislation that would make their enforcement illegal. On April 6, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican, signed the first gun control nullification bill into law.

"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives. "It's silly to sit around and wait for something you know is unconstitutional," he tells Reason. "It's time to stand up and fight back. And the methods that we need to use are the ones already being used by the left."

In 1987, Oregon passed a law prohibiting state and local law enforcement from using public resources to arrest or detain people whose only crime was being in the country illegally. Since then, hundreds of other jurisdictions have passed similar laws, becoming so-called sanctuary cities.



Good. I hope they are able to do this. If it is perfectly acceptable for the Left to do than this is funtastically perfect for the rest of the world.

More than a dozen states are wrong; they’re being ridiculous and idiotic.

In other words, they figured out they don't have to listen to you or any of your bullshit.

Now fuck off and go cry yourself to sleep somewhere.

The racist, segregationist right tried this more than sixty years ago, to defy the Court’s ruling in Brown v. Board of Education – they failed then and they fail again now with this idiotic nonsense.

How the fuck do you even come up with such a stupid comparison?
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

Constitution of United States of America 1789

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, including the Second Amendment.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”


Of course no right is unlimited, but the 2nd amendment is not a right.
Instead it is an absolute prohibition in any federal firearms laws.
Sure it does not prevent state or local firearm laws, but it does deny any federal jurisdiction over firearms.

And as for case law, at one time slavery and segregation were legal.
It has to be clear to anyone that the Dredd Scott decision was totally and completely wrong.
So was Prohibition.
We still have the War on Drugs, 3 strikes, asset forfeiture, and lots of laws that are obviously illegal and need to be ended

And no, the federal law denying felons from arms was only passed in 1968, so is not long standing nor legal in my opinion.


wrong,, the constitution and the amendments apply to the states as well,, and that is made clear by the 9th and 10th amendments,,,
 
All this teenage angst by little boys with big popguns and tiny pee-pees having a hissy-fit over nothing... :laugh:
I am so shamed. My manhood has been questioned.

I guess I will surrender my guns, so I can have a big dick....


:laughing0301:
The same people that think men can wear dresses and compete in women’s sports would like you to know your guns aren’t very manly.
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.


The constitution divided jurisdiction between the federal government and the states.
When the federal government violated the constitution by legislating something not specifically authorized to the federal government by the constitution, then everyone has the duty to nullify that violation of the constitution by the federal government.

You need to read more carefully.
It says this constitution ... shall be the supreme law of the land.
But only the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance of the Constitution shall be also be the supreme law of the land.

Federal gun laws, which are in inherent violation and contradiction of the 2nd amendment of the Constitution, then are NOT supreme law of the land.
 
With President Joe Biden issuing a flurry of executive actions last week to strengthen federal gun laws, state representatives across the country are working in the opposite direction, taking a page from the playbook of immigration activists by advancing legislation that would make their enforcement illegal. On April 6, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican, signed the first gun control nullification bill into law.

"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives. "It's silly to sit around and wait for something you know is unconstitutional," he tells Reason. "It's time to stand up and fight back. And the methods that we need to use are the ones already being used by the left."

In 1987, Oregon passed a law prohibiting state and local law enforcement from using public resources to arrest or detain people whose only crime was being in the country illegally. Since then, hundreds of other jurisdictions have passed similar laws, becoming so-called sanctuary cities.



Good. I hope they are able to do this. If it is perfectly acceptable for the Left to do than this is funtastically perfect for the rest of the world.

More than a dozen states are wrong; they’re being ridiculous and idiotic.

This is what happens when a few states openly ignore federal immigration law. Other states see them get away with it and decide they'll do it too. Funny how that works.
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

Constitution of United States of America 1789

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, including the Second Amendment.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

wrong again commie,,
it exist in its wording and nothing but a direct repeal can change what it says,,


youre thinking of what fascist or communist countrys do,,,
lol

Then dig up Scalia and argue with him about it.


fuck scalia,,

I will stick with original intent and the letter of the law,,,

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The states will follow Federal firearm regulatory measures.

If the states believe a given measure is un-Constitutional, they’re at liberty to file suit in Federal court.

And if the Supreme Court rules that a given firearm regulatory measure is Constitutional, the states will continue to follow that law, regardless the states’ opinion.
Hate to burst your bubble Clayton...but MISSOURI decides what laws will be enforced by Missouri law enforcement. If the feds want to enforce them...give it your best shot.
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.


Laws made under a non-existent authority are not binding.
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

You’re misreading not withstanding. That actually means a federal law can’t go against the Constitution.
and state laws cant go against it either,,,

I tend to agree, but the strict prohibition against federal gun laws of the 2nd amendment does not so explicitly deny state or local firearm restrictions like it does federal.
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

You have more than one state playing in it now.
You need to read post #10.
Let's see how far they get with it.
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

If the constitution had intended that the federal government had no limits and could do whatever it wanted, then why did the founders see a need to include 18 enumerated powers, essentially limiting the power if the government.

Also, why would that supremecy clause allow the government to make laws that counteracted the constitution itself?
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

You’re misreading not withstanding. That actually means a federal law can’t go against the Constitution.
and state laws cant go against it either,,,

I tend to agree, but the strict prohibition against federal gun laws of the 2nd amendment does not so explicitly deny state or local firearm restrictions like it does federal.
nothing strictly for the feds about it,, it doesnt say just the feds,,

try that with any other amendments,, can a state change the 5th and execute without a trial or due process???

he clearly says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED I see nothing that says states or local can infringe or any other caveat,,,
 
With President Joe Biden issuing a flurry of executive actions last week to strengthen federal gun laws, state representatives across the country are working in the opposite direction, taking a page from the playbook of immigration activists by advancing legislation that would make their enforcement illegal. On April 6, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican, signed the first gun control nullification bill into law.

"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives. "It's silly to sit around and wait for something you know is unconstitutional," he tells Reason. "It's time to stand up and fight back. And the methods that we need to use are the ones already being used by the left."

In 1987, Oregon passed a law prohibiting state and local law enforcement from using public resources to arrest or detain people whose only crime was being in the country illegally. Since then, hundreds of other jurisdictions have passed similar laws, becoming so-called sanctuary cities.



Good. I hope they are able to do this. If it is perfectly acceptable for the Left to do than this is funtastically perfect for the rest of the world.

Ah, so any day now I can have that rocket launcher?
 
With President Joe Biden issuing a flurry of executive actions last week to strengthen federal gun laws, state representatives across the country are working in the opposite direction, taking a page from the playbook of immigration activists by advancing legislation that would make their enforcement illegal. On April 6, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican, signed the first gun control nullification bill into law.

"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives. "It's silly to sit around and wait for something you know is unconstitutional," he tells Reason. "It's time to stand up and fight back. And the methods that we need to use are the ones already being used by the left."

In 1987, Oregon passed a law prohibiting state and local law enforcement from using public resources to arrest or detain people whose only crime was being in the country illegally. Since then, hundreds of other jurisdictions have passed similar laws, becoming so-called sanctuary cities.



Good. I hope they are able to do this. If it is perfectly acceptable for the Left to do than this is funtastically perfect for the rest of the world.

Ah, so any day now I can have that rocket launcher?


Have you found one you liked?
 
"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives.
Anthony needs to stop being an ignorant ass and read the Constitution.

This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding. Article VI, US Cont.

Constitution of United States of America 1789

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The Constitution exists solely in the context of its case law, including the Second Amendment.

“Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

wrong again commie,,
it exist in its wording and nothing but a direct repeal can change what it says,,


youre thinking of what fascist or communist countrys do,,,
lol

Then dig up Scalia and argue with him about it.


fuck scalia,,

I will stick with original intent and the letter of the law,,,

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The states will follow Federal firearm regulatory measures.

If the states believe a given measure is un-Constitutional, they’re at liberty to file suit in Federal court.

And if the Supreme Court rules that a given firearm regulatory measure is Constitutional, the states will continue to follow that law, regardless the states’ opinion.

That is not right.
It makes no legal, ethical, or practical sense.
The inherent rights of all individuals are the only source of any authority in a democratic republic, and being the most distant from those individuals, federal laws is always the most corrupt and the least to be followed.
The Declaration of Independence verifies that when a government violates basic principles and rights, then you have a duty to fight that government with everything you have.
You would only have a point in an arbitrary dictatorship, not a democratic republic.
The 2nd amendment clearly is a total ban on any and all federal firearm laws, with no exceptions.
 
With President Joe Biden issuing a flurry of executive actions last week to strengthen federal gun laws, state representatives across the country are working in the opposite direction, taking a page from the playbook of immigration activists by advancing legislation that would make their enforcement illegal. On April 6, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican, signed the first gun control nullification bill into law.

"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives. "It's silly to sit around and wait for something you know is unconstitutional," he tells Reason. "It's time to stand up and fight back. And the methods that we need to use are the ones already being used by the left."

In 1987, Oregon passed a law prohibiting state and local law enforcement from using public resources to arrest or detain people whose only crime was being in the country illegally. Since then, hundreds of other jurisdictions have passed similar laws, becoming so-called sanctuary cities.



Good. I hope they are able to do this. If it is perfectly acceptable for the Left to do than this is funtastically perfect for the rest of the world.

Ah, so any day now I can have that rocket launcher?


Have you found one you liked?

Oh hell yes, I'll take a TOW II.
 
With President Joe Biden issuing a flurry of executive actions last week to strengthen federal gun laws, state representatives across the country are working in the opposite direction, taking a page from the playbook of immigration activists by advancing legislation that would make their enforcement illegal. On April 6, Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, a Republican, signed the first gun control nullification bill into law.

"Nullifying unconstitutional, federal laws is both legal and it's also the right thing to do," says Anthony Sabatini, a Republican lawmaker and member of the Florida House of Representatives. "It's silly to sit around and wait for something you know is unconstitutional," he tells Reason. "It's time to stand up and fight back. And the methods that we need to use are the ones already being used by the left."

In 1987, Oregon passed a law prohibiting state and local law enforcement from using public resources to arrest or detain people whose only crime was being in the country illegally. Since then, hundreds of other jurisdictions have passed similar laws, becoming so-called sanctuary cities.



Good. I hope they are able to do this. If it is perfectly acceptable for the Left to do than this is funtastically perfect for the rest of the world.

John Bolton is a piece of shit.

Noted.
 

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