No. I admit that I am racist. I'm honest about that.
Hey man, I'm an old white guy from the north east and I'm with you on this. I can point to numerous times in my long life when I was the beneficiary of white privilege -although I was not always aware of it at the time. Racism is alive and well in the USA1) The US supreme court is making it even easier for the cops to kill black people. That's all these laws about. Now sure, they don't mind a few white people getting caught in the crossfire, but essentially these laws are about killing or harming black people
2) What would have happened if he was black ?
A white man points gun at Cops. They Ask Him to Stand Down. He Shoots at them. They ask him to stand Down again. He refuses again and fights With Cops. But he is taken alive
What would have happened if he was black ?
What would have happened if he was black ?
What would have happened if he was black ?
3) You know how white supremacist love to lie about "Were helping black people. Look at all this aid we give"
Yeah a bag of rice for a bag of diamonds.
This is an old mafia trick. The mafia used to kill a wife's husband then a week later, show up at her house with a envelope of money telling her "What a great guy he was". White supremacists acts of aggression are always followed by white supremacist acts of compassion. You must keep the victims confused.
But this is what the Red cross is doing haiti. Child Sex rings etc. They've found 21 cases of sexual misconduct in last three years but of course keep digging and the real number is in the thousands. Not that the money was ever meant to go to Haiti.
Once again. White supremacists have history.
This is happening to black/African ppl globally. British soldiers that were forcing the poverty stricken African women and underage girls to have sex with them in exchange for food and clean water.
3) Screen writer of the original Planet of The Apes says the film was about about Black people
Now watch how quickly this post will get locked.
To the mods black people talking about racism on a section of a forum that's dedicated to racism is race baiting.
Because in USMB if you talk about racism then you must focus on how screwed up, violent or dumb black people supposedly are anything else is race baiting.
Hey man, I'm an old white guy from the north east and I'm with you on this. I can point to numerous times in my long life when I was the beneficiary of white privilege -although I was not always aware of it at the time. Racism is alive and well in the USA1) The US supreme court is making it even easier for the cops to kill black people. That's all these laws about. Now sure, they don't mind a few white people getting caught in the crossfire, but essentially these laws are about killing or harming black people
2) What would have happened if he was black ?
A white man points gun at Cops. They Ask Him to Stand Down. He Shoots at them. They ask him to stand Down again. He refuses again and fights With Cops. But he is taken alive
What would have happened if he was black ?
What would have happened if he was black ?
What would have happened if he was black ?
3) You know how white supremacist love to lie about "Were helping black people. Look at all this aid we give"
Yeah a bag of rice for a bag of diamonds.
This is an old mafia trick. The mafia used to kill a wife's husband then a week later, show up at her house with a envelope of money telling her "What a great guy he was". White supremacists acts of aggression are always followed by white supremacist acts of compassion. You must keep the victims confused.
But this is what the Red cross is doing haiti. Child Sex rings etc. They've found 21 cases of sexual misconduct in last three years but of course keep digging and the real number is in the thousands. Not that the money was ever meant to go to Haiti.
Once again. White supremacists have history.
This is happening to black/African ppl globally. British soldiers that were forcing the poverty stricken African women and underage girls to have sex with them in exchange for food and clean water.
3) Screen writer of the original Planet of The Apes says the film was about about Black people
Now watch how quickly this post will get locked.
To the mods black people talking about racism on a section of a forum that's dedicated to racism is race baiting.
Because in USMB if you talk about racism then you must focus on how screwed up, violent or dumb black people supposedly are anything else is race baiting.
I am glad to read an honest, rational post after the hair on fire crazies I just argued with. I must ask, what do you mean by "I just want black people to stop loving them"?
The last time I heard that, I told the group to stop talking that way around me. Crap like that is why IM2 hates whites-and I can't blame him.
Even if someone deserves love? IM2 and others have said blacks cannot be racists. You proved him and others wrong.
If youāre looking to understand why discussions between blacks and whites about racism are often so difficult its bcoz whites and blacks are often not talking about the same thing.
You may or may not know racism extends to ethnicity and gender and language as well as color. My father could not get a professor ship at a college(systems) because he had a Slavic last name. My mother could not train as a pilot because she was a woman-each denied a career they excelled at because of system racism. I was denied work due to no military background in one instance and because of affirmative action in another. How about being excluded at work and possible promotion because I did not speak Spanish? We all have run into unfair practices for some reason.
considering that so many white people are not in a position of power and that so many white people do not treat blacks as unequals, calling whites racist is wrong. Which system exactly is responsible for this racism you speak of? Do you think all blacks should get a free ride because they are black? You speak as if no blacks should be turned down for anything, even though so many whites are also denied.
A white Progressive accused Candace Owens of "cooning"
I have no idea what this sentence means.
That's what your father told you, and that's what your telling me what your father told you.
It doesn't matter whatever system you throw at me. They will have white supremacy running through it so thick you can cut it with a knife. You may say it's a capitalist system, all that means is the white capitalist is on top and black capitalist is on the bottom. You may say your mother was discriminated against because she was a woman but she was still white. The white feminists movements have had a history anti black hatred
I'm pretty sure you know that white person with a criminal record is more likely to get the job than a black person with out one
Iām guessing you are a person who doesnāt understand that āprivilegeā (in the sense of White privilege) can be understood as the absence of negative consequences (because youāre White) just as easily as people frame it as advantages you get (because youāre White).
You must feel better after all that poor me and my people diatribe. You don't like or want to hear my story-don't expect anyone to bother hearing yours. As long as you see things thru black colored glasses, you'll never see anything. Congratulations on making it to victim, I'm sure you will bury yourself in the part.I have no idea what this sentence means.
That's what your father told you, and that's what your telling me what your father told you.
I was not at the interview. I don't know who he was up against. I don't know what was going in the minds of the people who were thinking of hiring your fathers.
But at the end of the day your father was still white.
Sure he was distant European immigrant (But aren't all white Americans ?) but getting white ppl to acknowledge the humanity of a group of white people (however much this group may differ from most of them religiously and culture wise) is a far cry from convincing them of the equal value of black immigrants, who donāt look like them, who might not speak the same language, and who are seen as taking white jobs and soaking up welfare dollars.
Your father still had a similar skin tone which allowed other whites of their common bond with him because I'm pretty sure your father didn't stay out of work too long. But racism is different because racism prioritizes certain outward characteristics as paramount to categorization so makes bonding more difficult.
It doesn't matter whatever system you throw at me. They will have white supremacy running through it so thick you can cut it with a knife. You may say it's a capitalist system, all that means is the white capitalist is on top and black capitalist is on the bottom. You may say your mother was discriminated against because she was a woman but she was still white. The white feminists movements have had a history anti black hatred
Susan B Anthony and Magaret Sanger fought for women's rights but that had no effect on their racism towards black people.
It's also a derailing argument because you have a conscious desire to deflect focus back to yourself and your family because you canāt actually bear to understand someone elseās experience.
I'm pretty sure you know that white person with a criminal record is more likely to get the job than a black person with out one
I'm pretty sure you know this.
But I've heard many white dudes (and women) complain about being the victims of reverse discrimination.
So I ask the person a few obvious questions :
What was the company or government agency, or contractor to which you had applied for a position or contract, which you believe discriminated against you?
When did you apply for this job or contract?
Who was hired or given the contract ahead of you, and what evidence do you have that they were less qualified, objectively than you for the position?
Three simple questions, and yet none of them (and certainly never the last one) is ever answered by those to whom I put the challenge.
They forget the details, usually retreating to the tried but true argument that they were ātoldā how much more qualified they were, but how, unfortunately, the employer was being āforcedā to hire a minority.
Employers will often tell rejected white applicants such a thing, even though no federal or state law requires, encourages or even allows such a practice. Indeed, hiring someone solely because they are a person of color is illegal, and that is not how much maligned affirmative action programs operate, or have ever operated.
Real evidence of anti-white bias in the workplace is extraordinarily rare.
Iām guessing you are a person who doesnāt understand that āprivilegeā (in the sense of White privilege) can be understood as the absence of negative consequences (because youāre White) just as easily as people frame it as advantages you get (because youāre White).
1. Police harrassment/brutality
2. Assumptions of incompetence, regardless of how shiny your resume and thus not getting the job
3. Assumptions that you are prone to rape (esp. Black males)
4. Assumptions that anything you say is racist is just your own āsensitivityā
5. Decreased chances of garnering employment, higher education, or the most current health treatment, from the get go
6. etc., etc., etc.
All of the above things can happen to you (or any person), but they wonāt happen to you backed by the institutional power of Whiteness.
A black cop can pull you over and harrass you, but the law enforcement system (a White institution) is not designed to disproportionately assume your guilt because you are White.
Itās almost too obvious (and redundant) to type out that any [insert negative action] can happen to anybody. The difference between it happening to someone who has White privilege and someone who doesnāt is that the issue of whether it happens solely because of skin color (on a systemic level) does not have to be taken into account by a White person.
Snap judgments made about whites (as a group) by blacks donāt have the same amount of the power as the reverse situation. Saying āWe all have run into unfair practices for some reasonā is one of those kumbayah platitudes because it assumes that thereās some kind of tug-of-war going on in which the opposing sides are tugging on ropes of equal quality.
The reality is that one side of the rope is strong, while the other is often threadbare.
Youāre operating on a Racism 101 level hereāstep your game up.
Turns out, he does NOT know.
OK. So quick question - Why would you be so confident of white treatment of black ppl when you are not black yourself ?
The system of white supremacy.
Free ride ? Since when have black people ever had a free ride ?
This is another tactic many whites use. They try to play your ego "Stop being baby" "Poor me" Playing to my ego won't work. I am a victim of white supremacy.
It's grotesque and monumentally repugnant of white ppl who want to own victim-hood whilst being FUCKING steeped in white privilege and patronizingly conflate their specific white ethnic problems within white dominance and project that onto black people and foist upon the very people (Black people) who have absolutely nothing to do with their (Irish) past oppression,
Yet blacks overwhelmingly voted for HillaryI have no idea what this sentence means.
That's what your father told you, and that's what your telling me what your father told you.
I was not at the interview. I don't know who he was up against. I don't know what was going in the minds of the people who were thinking of hiring your fathers.
But at the end of the day your father was still white.
Sure he was distant European immigrant (But aren't all white Americans ?) but getting white ppl to acknowledge the humanity of a group of white people (however much this group may differ from most of them religiously and culture wise) is a far cry from convincing them of the equal value of black immigrants, who donāt look like them, who might not speak the same language, and who are seen as taking white jobs and soaking up welfare dollars.
Your father still had a similar skin tone which allowed other whites of their common bond with him because I'm pretty sure your father didn't stay out of work too long. But racism is different because racism prioritizes certain outward characteristics as paramount to categorization so makes bonding more difficult.
It doesn't matter whatever system you throw at me. They will have white supremacy running through it so thick you can cut it with a knife. You may say it's a capitalist system, all that means is the white capitalist is on top and black capitalist is on the bottom. You may say your mother was discriminated against because she was a woman but she was still white. The white feminists movements have had a history anti black hatred
Susan B Anthony and Magaret Sanger fought for women's rights but that had no effect on their racism towards black people.
It's also a derailing argument because you have a conscious desire to deflect focus back to yourself and your family because you canāt actually bear to understand someone elseās experience.
I'm pretty sure you know that white person with a criminal record is more likely to get the job than a black person with out one
I'm pretty sure you know this.
But I've heard many white dudes (and women) complain about being the victims of reverse discrimination.
So I ask the person a few obvious questions :
What was the company or government agency, or contractor to which you had applied for a position or contract, which you believe discriminated against you?
When did you apply for this job or contract?
Who was hired or given the contract ahead of you, and what evidence do you have that they were less qualified, objectively than you for the position?
Three simple questions, and yet none of them (and certainly never the last one) is ever answered by those to whom I put the challenge.
They forget the details, usually retreating to the tried but true argument that they were ātoldā how much more qualified they were, but how, unfortunately, the employer was being āforcedā to hire a minority.
Employers will often tell rejected white applicants such a thing, even though no federal or state law requires, encourages or even allows such a practice. Indeed, hiring someone solely because they are a person of color is illegal, and that is not how much maligned affirmative action programs operate, or have ever operated.
Real evidence of anti-white bias in the workplace is extraordinarily rare.
Iām guessing you are a person who doesnāt understand that āprivilegeā (in the sense of White privilege) can be understood as the absence of negative consequences (because youāre White) just as easily as people frame it as advantages you get (because youāre White).
1. Police harrassment/brutality
2. Assumptions of incompetence, regardless of how shiny your resume and thus not getting the job
3. Assumptions that you are prone to rape (esp. Black males)
4. Assumptions that anything you say is racist is just your own āsensitivityā
5. Decreased chances of garnering employment, higher education, or the most current health treatment, from the get go
6. etc., etc., etc.
All of the above things can happen to you (or any person), but they wonāt happen to you backed by the institutional power of Whiteness.
A black cop can pull you over and harrass you, but the law enforcement system (a White institution) is not designed to disproportionately assume your guilt because you are White.
Itās almost too obvious (and redundant) to type out that any [insert negative action] can happen to anybody. The difference between it happening to someone who has White privilege and someone who doesnāt is that the issue of whether it happens solely because of skin color (on a systemic level) does not have to be taken into account by a White person.
Snap judgments made about whites (as a group) by blacks donāt have the same amount of the power as the reverse situation. Saying āWe all have run into unfair practices for some reasonā is one of those kumbayah platitudes because it assumes that thereās some kind of tug-of-war going on in which the opposing sides are tugging on ropes of equal quality.
The reality is that one side of the rope is strong, while the other is often threadbare.
Youāre operating on a Racism 101 level hereāstep your game up.
I donāt deny racism exist. Not all woes that blacks call racism is true. I have seen this firsthand. Blacks were fired for lying on their job applications, getting speeding tickets in company vehicles, not showing up to work. They claimed it was because they were black. Whites were fired for the same thing, all of them. Nobody got a pass.
