more from Ilan Pappe

[amity1844]

Since Professor Pappe has such a fan base on this forum, I thought I would post another few of his interviews:

Ilan Pappe interview, Myths and Propaganda:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIWvcBzbqVc]Israeli Myths & Propaganda. Ilan Pappe - YouTube[/ame]



Ilan Pappe: Israel is Not a Democracy:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMcWLyUGZHU]Ilan Pappe "Israel is not a democracy" - YouTube[/ame]



Ilan Pappe: Genocide in Palestine:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETKqPp1lYic]Testimony by Dr. Ilan Pappe on Genocide in Palestine by Israel - YouTube[/ame]



I am loving Ilan Pappe right now. He will make an excellent citizen of a democratic Palestine. And I hope he lives long enough to see it.

 

[Indeependent]

Not many nations are Democracies.
Many are Parliamental Republics or Representative Republics.
Are you sure you attended an Ivy League school because you're not coming off as all that insightful in the last few days.

 

[amity1844]

I don't think that is what Professor Pappe meant. Please watch.

 

[Indeependent]

I don't think that is what Professor Pappe meant. Please watch.

I have a full time job, a family and I attend 4 Torah classes a week.
I have 1 hour for bullshit?
However, I may watch later on (I'm going to the gym now) for about 10 minutes.

 

[amity1844]

He'll grow on you!

 

[Sally]

He'll grow on you!

Oh, I am sure that there are Israeli writers with a different viewpoint than his who will grow on your too.

 

[amity1844]

I think they write without reference to this and just hope their audience doesn't know about it. I have never been too impressed by the Zionist tripe. It is really just an emotionally based appeal, same tactics as Hitler used to motivate mobs. That is all they are doing. To them it is just mythology, they don't believe in it themselves.

 

[Sally]

I think they write without reference to this and just hope their audience doesn't know about it. I have never been too impressed by the Zionist tripe. It is really just an emotionally based appeal, same tactics as Hitler used to motivate mobs. That is all they are doing. To them it is just mythology, they don't believe in it themselves.

You really are a laugh a minute, Amity. Say, isn't it your new Muslim clergy buddies who are inciting just like Hitler did. They certainly are inciting people to kill those of different religions and even different sects. I don't think many are too impressed here with your nonsense, Amity. However, I think many of us thank you for the free entertainment.

 

[P F Tinmore]

He'll grow on you!

Oh, I am sure that there are Israeli writers with a different viewpoint than his who will grow on your too.

There are many intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Palestine.

Who would you recommend for Israel?

 

[MJB12741]

OMG, the well known world renowned Ilan Pappe is against Israel & for the Palestinians. Israel is doomed. Eh bedee eh bedee --- That's all folks!

Since Professor Pappe has such a fan base on this forum, I thought I would post another few of his interviews:

Ilan Pappe interview, Myths and Propaganda:

Israeli Myths & Propaganda. Ilan Pappe - YouTube



Ilan Pappe: Israel is Not a Democracy:

Ilan Pappe "Israel is not a democracy" - YouTube



Ilan Pappe: Genocide in Palestine:

Testimony by Dr. Ilan Pappe on Genocide in Palestine by Israel - YouTube



I am loving Ilan Pappe right now. He will make an excellent citizen of a democratic Palestine. And I hope he lives long enough to see it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEvgtBfMEnk]Justice Requires an End to Israeli Jewish Supremacy Over Palestinians - Ali Abunimah on RAI (5/5) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sally]

He'll grow on you!

Oh, I am sure that there are Israeli writers with a different viewpoint than his who will grow on your too.

There are many intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Palestine.

Who would you recommend for Israel?

Well certainly not any of your old friends who are still residing there. I can actually forgive you, Mr. Tinmore, for being a one-trick pony because I think the viewers have figured out where you are coming from. However, the so-called Palestinians are not all coming back from around the world to swamp the Jews and then govern the land there as much as you hope that will happen.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Oh, I am sure that there are Israeli writers with a different viewpoint than his who will grow on your too.

There are many intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Palestine.

Who would you recommend for Israel?

Well certainly not any of your old friends who are still residing there. I can actually forgive you, Mr. Tinmore, for being a one-trick pony because I think the viewers have figured out where you are coming from. However, the so-called Palestinians are not all coming back from around the world to swamp the Jews and then govern the land there as much as you hope that will happen.

So you don't have any intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Israel that you can recommend?

 

[Sally]

There are many intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Palestine.

Who would you recommend for Israel?

Well certainly not any of your old friends who are still residing there. I can actually forgive you, Mr. Tinmore, for being a one-trick pony because I think the viewers have figured out where you are coming from. However, the so-called Palestinians are not all coming back from around the world to swamp the Jews and then govern the land there as much as you hope that will happen.

So you don't have any intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Israel that you can recommend?

I have read enough articles, Mr. Tinmore, but sorry they weren't written by your friends. Everyone is allowed to read whatever they feel like reading. If it makes you feel good to read books or articles written by your friends or by Leftist Jews, I say go for it. At the end of the day, regardless of what you have read, the refugees are not arriving en masse to take over Israel.

 

[toastman]

There are many intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Palestine.

Who would you recommend for Israel?

Well certainly not any of your old friends who are still residing there. I can actually forgive you, Mr. Tinmore, for being a one-trick pony because I think the viewers have figured out where you are coming from. However, the so-called Palestinians are not all coming back from around the world to swamp the Jews and then govern the land there as much as you hope that will happen.

So you don't have any intelligent, articulate, and well educated advocates for Israel that you can recommend?

Why do you need advocates for? Can you not speak for yourself??

 

[toastman]

Justice Requires an End to Israeli Jewish Supremacy Over Palestinians - Ali Abunimah on RAI (5/5) - YouTube

Ali Abunimah is suggesting a one state solution where everyone has equal rights.

Now, does he, or anyone else who agrees with the one state solution actually think that Israel will allow itself to be overcome demographically by Arabs???

Not to mention that Palestinians have done absolutely nothing to show that they are willing to live in peace with Israel. The way I see it, after the second intifada, that was it for the Palestinians and being trusted.
You reap what you sow.

 

[amity1844]

Yes, but that is going to take awhile, which is why the two state solution became viable. No one is expecting a move directly to a one state solution. I like a binational solution, one nation with two different houses of representation, one for Jews, one for everybody else. That would be a transitional form for me, but even that will be gradually implemented.

I don't know what Palestinians can do to demonstrate they want peace according to you.
Stop defending themselves?

 

[MJB12741]

Well golly gee, do you think maybe had the Palestinians thanked Israel for granting their request to remove all Jewish settlelments & give them a Jew free Gaza instead of sending rocket missiles from Gaza that could have shown some desire for peace?

Yes, but that is going to take awhile, which is why the two state solution became viable. No one is expecting a move directly to a one state solution. I like a binational solution, one nation with two different houses of representation, one for Jews, one for everybody else. That would be a transitional form for me, but even that will be gradually implemented.

I don't know what Palestinians can do to demonstrate they want peace according to you.
Stop defending themselves?

 

[amity1844]

Yes, getting the H out of Gaza and the West Bank would definitely constitute a good step down the road to peace, yes! And I think if Israel will TALK TO HAMAS, which so far they have refused to do, they may reach some sort of cease fire agreement with them. TRY!

 

[amity1844]

Here's a good reason for me not being more sympathetic to Israel's hostility to Hamas.

ISRAEL SUPPORTED THEM FINANCIALLY WHEN THEY WERE A TINY ORGANIZATION AND DID EVERYTHING IT COULD TO STRENGTHEN THEM.

It is just their usual habit of playing one side off the other in the middle east and trying as hard as possible to rake up a hornets' nest. Israel likes nothing so well as manipulating Palestinians and Arabs into fighting with each other. And Druze, Maronites, and anyone else possible.