Modern conservatives sympathizing with The Confederacy... Is this a thing now?

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Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Leave.

Boats, planes, cars can take you away.

One way tickets about. Renounce your citizenship and say s'long gaters.

Nothing is stopping ya buddy.

Texas can leave? WHOOOOTT!!!

Texas is a geographical location, not a person.

You said "no one is allowed to leave" -- people can leave all they want.

Pretending to be stupid isn't a convincing argument.

For you, it's a full time job, no pretending.

 

[bripat9643]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Leave.

Boats, planes, cars can take you away.

One way tickets about. Renounce your citizenship and say s'long gaters.

Nothing is stopping ya buddy.

Texas can leave? WHOOOOTT!!!

Texas is a geographical location, not a person.

You said "no one is allowed to leave" -- people can leave all they want.

Pretending to be stupid isn't a convincing argument.

For you, it's a full time job, no pretending.

That must be your conception of wit.

 

[JoeMoma]

I beleive that if the people of a state vote by supermajority, say 75%, to succeed from the union, then that state should be allowed to do so.

 

[bripat9643]

I beleive that if the people of a state vote by supermajority, say 75%, to succeed from the union, then that state should be allowed to do so.

Why not 51%? If the government can force us all to buy healthcare because a president elected by simple majority of the population wants it, then why can't a state leave with a simple majority.

 

[RKMBrown]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Leave.

Boats, planes, cars can take you away.

One way tickets about. Renounce your citizenship and say s'long gaters.

Nothing is stopping ya buddy.

Texas can leave? WHOOOOTT!!!

Texas is a geographical location, not a person.

You said "no one is allowed to leave" -- people can leave all they want.

Do you really think the civil war was fought over somebody taking a trip from the USA?

 

[RKMBrown]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Then why did the rebels kill so many?

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

 

[thanatos144]

The prejudice , assumptions and childish name calling of some posters is so glaring that even they should see it. For example, nowhere has this poster extolled the virtues of Lincoln nor stated that secession was clearly illegal (or legal). Statements have been made and questions posed trying to put the discussion in perspective. Most responding posters have interpreted these in that way.
I will state here that the crime of slavery is so heinous that little can be imagined to exceed it. Whatever it took to end it, and whoever suffered what as a result of having practiced it, is like the rapist; whatever happens to him he brought upon himself.
Just as in the world there are many 'evils' and 'causes' to go to war such as religion, oil, simple power, these would never convince me to 'take up arms'. But if there were a serious battle to free my sisters worldwide, once and for all from the awful oppression they have suffered for centuries, millennia, you might have a soldier here.

In other words, you don't care what the law or the Constitution says.

Got it.

Tell us why anyone should waste his time discussing the issue with you?

You apparently dont care what the constitution says. There is no right to secession in the constitution.

The Constitution doesn't mention secession, so how can anyone claim it isn't permitted? The theory that everything not expressly permitted is denied is the logic of morons.

You can say it isn't permitted because it is called rebellion and that is treason and yes before you spout out more stupidity our founding fathers were traitors to the crown. The Major difference being the founders won their rebellion. They won it because they were worthy. Not just strength won the revolutionary war but ideals of liberty and freedom because it garnered the Frenches help which without them we wouldn't have a country today. The confederates didn't have that morel ground to stand on. You cant scream you are for freedom and then rebel to expand slave economics. The founders one great weakness was allowing the slavery to exist after we were founded. Lincoln fixed that with the cray baby help of the south. They started a war and gave him the opportunity to emancipate them......

 

[thanatos144]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Then why did the rebels kill so many?

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Lincoln started the war, numskull.

Only if you ignore historical proof otherwise.

 

[thanatos144]

I beleive that if the people of a state vote by supermajority, say 75%, to succeed from the union, then that state should be allowed to do so.

Thus the reason why the founders made us a republic and not a democracy so we cant be held captive by the stupidity of mob rule.

 

[thanatos144]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Then why did the rebels kill so many?

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

They attacked union troops over and over before and after Lincoln was president those are acts of war.

 

[thanatos144]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Leave.

Boats, planes, cars can take you away.

One way tickets about. Renounce your citizenship and say s'long gaters.

Nothing is stopping ya buddy.

Texas can leave? WHOOOOTT!!!

Texas is a geographical location, not a person.

You said "no one is allowed to leave" -- people can leave all they want.

Do you really think the civil war was fought over somebody taking a trip from the USA?

Are purposely acting stupid? That isnt even close to what he posted.

 

[Syriusly]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Then why did the rebels kill so many?

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

The South started the war when it fired on Federal troops. Arguably even earlier when it fired upon an American vessel leased to the Federal government coming to resupply the United State's Fort Sumter.

Having cannons fired on your troops generally is recognized as starting a fight.

 

[JoeMoma]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Then why did the rebels kill so many?

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

The South started the war when it fired on Federal troops. Arguably even earlier when it fired upon an American vessel leased to the Federal government coming to resupply the United State's Fort Sumter.

Having cannons fired on your troops generally is recognized as starting a fight.

Assuming that a state does succeed, would it not hold claim to any forts that are within its boundaries? There is more than one side to that story.

 

[thanatos144]

Then why did the rebels kill so many?

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

The South started the war when it fired on Federal troops. Arguably even earlier when it fired upon an American vessel leased to the Federal government coming to resupply the United State's Fort Sumter.

Having cannons fired on your troops generally is recognized as starting a fight.

Assuming that a state does succeed, would it not hold claim to any forts that are within its boundaries? There is more than one side to that story.

No since rebelling doesn't make you your own country.

 

[there4eyeM]

That a state has declared its secession does not mean it has succeeded in seceding. It only means, really and especially in the American Civil War setting, that it claims it can and regards itself as having seceded. Its 'right' to 'property' is in dispute and a trial would be necessary to judge the situation. There was a trial, albeit of the barbaric 'trial by combat' kind. The case was found not substantiated. The secession did not succeed.

 

[RKMBrown]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Then why did the rebels kill so many?

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

They attacked union troops over and over before and after Lincoln was president those are acts of war.

Union troops? Where were those union troops again? What state were those "union" troops occupying again? Where those union troops "invited guests?"

 

[RKMBrown]

Ah another thread with morons screaming you can't leave na na na na na..

Yeah gratz on killing millions to prove that no one is allowed to leave unless we say they are allowed to leave.

Leave.

Boats, planes, cars can take you away.

One way tickets about. Renounce your citizenship and say s'long gaters.

Nothing is stopping ya buddy.

Texas can leave? WHOOOOTT!!!

Texas is a geographical location, not a person.

You said "no one is allowed to leave" -- people can leave all they want.

Do you really think the civil war was fought over somebody taking a trip from the USA?

Are purposely acting stupid? That isnt even close to what he posted.

Have someone explain it to you, I'm busy.

 

[JoeMoma]

Why did the rebels kill the murderers who came south to slaughter their families? Uhmmm... self defense?

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

The South started the war when it fired on Federal troops. Arguably even earlier when it fired upon an American vessel leased to the Federal government coming to resupply the United State's Fort Sumter.

Having cannons fired on your troops generally is recognized as starting a fight.

Assuming that a state does succeed, would it not hold claim to any forts that are within its boundaries? There is more than one side to that story.

No since rebelling doesn't make you your own country.

That's what king George said.

 

[g5000]

Confederates were dimocrat slavers!

Confederates were awesome patriots who dared defend their rights!

 

[thanatos144]

Considering the rebels started the fighting you would be wrong.

Please provide evidence that the rebels invaded the North.

The South started the war when it fired on Federal troops. Arguably even earlier when it fired upon an American vessel leased to the Federal government coming to resupply the United State's Fort Sumter.

Having cannons fired on your troops generally is recognized as starting a fight.

Assuming that a state does succeed, would it not hold claim to any forts that are within its boundaries? There is more than one side to that story.

No since rebelling doesn't make you your own country.

That's what king George said.

And when he lost and was proved wrong.