Mob storms Minnesota church during worship to target pastor they say has ICE ties

[SweetSue92]

Where in the Constitution does it allow you to trespass?

You’re such a tough guy scaring children.

He has a simple quiz to fill out right rightwinger

Pick one:

1. I am stupid

2. I am an annoying troll

 

[hadit]

Splain

Who was hurt?
What damage was done?

Abortion protestors loudly invade an abortion clinic, causing it to shut down for the day. No one gets hurt, no damage is done.

Do you have a problem with that?

 

[struth]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

correct, that however doesn't mean you can go on to private property and protest, in fact doing so is a crime.

Because you are in fact violating other people's right to engage in their free exercise of their religion. Ted Kennedy introduced the FACE Act, and it was signed by Clinton (back when Dems actually weren't fascist)

The First Amendment does not allow the Govt to censor content, in most cases, but certainly allows it to regulate, time, place and manner.

Your ignorance of the law, is not a defense either.

 

[struth]

Abortion protestors loudly invade an abortion clinic, causing it to shut down for the day. No one gets hurt, no damage is done.

Do you have a problem with that?

I do, it too is a crime under the FACE Act.

 

[hadit]

The right to freedom of speech means you have the right on public property to express your opinions in many ways, including speeches, signs, and symbolic acts (like wearing protest armbands or displaying banners). The First Amendment protects a vast range of speech and expressive conduct, and courts have recognized only a few narrow and carefully defined categorical exceptions like, for example, true threats (expressing serious intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular person or group) and incitement (speech directed to producing imminent lawless action that is likely to produce it).

Protesting on public property: What you need to know

Protests are a time-honored way for Americans to express their views and demand change. Here's what you need to know to make sure your expression is protected by the First Amendment.

www.thefire.org

And it clearly says "Congress shall make no law". I have yet to see from him how this group invading a church has anything to do with Congress.

 

[hadit]

I do, it too is a crime under the FACE Act.

And therein lies the issue, that one protest is made explicitly illegal with its own set of punishments while another is not.

 

[struth]

And therein lies the issue, that one protest is made explicitly illegal with its own set of punishments while another is not.

incorrect, under the FACE Act, it's also do to the same at a church.

18 U.S. Code § 248 - Freedom of access to clinic entrances

www.law.cornell.edu

(2)
by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship; or
(3)
intentionally damages or destroys the property of a facility, or attempts to do so, because such facility provides reproductive health services, or intentionally damages or destroys the property of a place of religious worship,

 

[hadit]

incorrect, under the FACE Act, it's also do to the same at a church.

18 U.S. Code § 248 - Freedom of access to clinic entrances

www.law.cornell.edu

(2)
by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship; or
(3)
intentionally damages or destroys the property of a facility, or attempts to do so, because such facility provides reproductive health services, or intentionally damages or destroys the property of a place of religious worship,

That's good, we should see some prosecutions.

 

[OldFlame]

Through adjudication in the court system. 95%+ show up at their court hearing.

https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/FACT_CHECK_Court_Appearance_Rates.pdf

Then why are so many still here after many years? Rhetorical question, we know why. Leftie courts in leftie cities even let them go when they've committed crimes, over and over and over again.

The Massive Spike in Immigration Court ‘No-Shows’

 

[rightwinger]

correct, that however doesn't mean you can go on to private property and protest, in fact doing so is a crime.

Because you are in fact violating other people's right to engage in their free exercise of their religion. Ted Kennedy introduced the FACE Act, and it was signed by Clinton (back when Dems actually weren't fascist)

The First Amendment does not allow the Govt to censor content, in most cases, but certainly allows it to regulate, time, place and manner.

Your ignorance of the law, is not a defense either.

Trespassing is a crime
You can be prosecuted for refusing to leave but not for protesting

 

[hadit]

Trespassing is a crime
You can be prosecuted for refusing to leave but not for protesting

Splitting hairs. You do not have the Constitutional right to protest in a place of worship. The First Amendment doesn't apply. If I have the right to remove you from my property for protesting, you don't have the right to protest on my property. See how that works?

 

[Darlo kittu]

Question for ebery liberal

 

[rightwinger]

Splitting hairs. You do not have the Constitutional right to protest in a place of worship. The First Amendment doesn't apply. If I have the right to remove you from my property for protesting, you don't have the right to protest on my property. See how that works?

You can go into Walmart and scream and yell and make a fuss
You will not be arrested for it
But if you refuse to leave you are trespassing and subject to arrest

 

[hadit]

You can go into Walmart and scream and yell and make a fuss
You will not be arrested for it
But if you refuse to leave you are trespassing and subject to arrest

If you had a Constitutional right to protest in a Walmart, they could not eject you for doing so. I have a Constitutional right to say out loud that Joe Biden is a poopyhead and can't be arrested for doing so. That's the difference.

Do you still maintain that anyone has a Constitutional right to protest inside a church?

 

[Darlo kittu]

You can go into Walmart and scream and yell and make a fuss
You will not be arrested for it
But if you refuse to leave you are trespassing and subject to arrest

These punks are arrogant to think they can interfere with law enforcement from doing their job now they believe they can interfere wuth the right to spread their liberal bull crap in a church

The fuse is burning down and these liberal aholes are about to get a serious attitude adjustment

 

[OldFlame]

If you had a Constitutional right to protest in a Walmart, they could not eject you for doing so. I have a Constitutional right to say out loud that Joe Biden is a poopyhead and can't be arrested for doing so. That's the difference.

Do you still maintain that anyone has a Constitutional right to protest inside a church?

He's admitting/admitted that there is no right to protest on private property when he says that they have to leave when asked. He's just trolling at this point, it's all he ever does, which is why I typically ignore him. Not worth anyone's time really.

 

[Darlo kittu]

He's admitting/admitted that there is no right to protest on private property when he says that they have to leave when asked. He's just trolling at this point, it's all he ever does, which is why I typically ignore him. Not worth anyone's time really.

 

[rightwinger]

These punks are arrogant to think they can interfere with law enforcement from doing their job now they believe they can interfere wuth the right to spread their liberal bull crap in a church

The fuse is burning down and these liberal aholes are about to get a serious attitude adjustment

Maybe if they stormed the Capitol, Trump would pardon them

 

[Darlo kittu]

Maybe if they stormed the Capitol, Trump would pardon them

Typical.

When boxed into a corner change the subject

 

[rightwinger]

Bunch of Snowflakes still whining because someone interrupted a church service

Not the end of the world Nancy