Mob storms Minnesota church during worship to target pastor they say has ICE ties

[citygator]

citygator ghosts again, twice in one day because he can't answer questions truthfully.

Message boards are built to carry on discussions over time. If this were a real time debate it wouldnt be a message board.

 

[hadit]

This thread is about a pastor who is working for ICE. “Faith without works is dead.” Is a quote transparent enough for you to figure out. For me, I wont be answering for supporting the vileness of these times but feel free to work up your argument. I am sure it will be compelling.

Is he really working with them, or was that just something somebody came up with as a pretext to be a nuisance? And no one has yet given a good reason why they were right to invade and shut down a Church service.

 

[Rawley]

Constitutional right to free speech
You are free to ask them to leave and arrest for trespass if they refuse

So you'll support their arrests when it happens?

 

[Rawley]

They have a right to protest

Is it a nice thing to do?
No
Is a church off limits?
No

Been listening to that moron Ellison, huh?

It is absolutely off limits.

18 U.S. Code § 248​

(2) by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship

 

[Rawley]

People protested in a Church
Nobody killed, nobody injured, no damage

No harm, no foul
Move along, nothing to see here

Dude. Do some homework. You are usually not this uninformed.

 

[hadit]

Dude. Do some homework. You are usually not this uninformed.

It's deliberate. He knows his position is indefensible but won't back down from it, instead just digging the hole deeper.

 

[rightwinger]

Dude. Do some homework. You are usually not this uninformed.

Splain

Who was hurt?
What damage was done?

 

[Rawley]

Splain

Who was hurt?
What damage was done?

Which words did you have trouble with?

18 U.S. Code § 248​

(a) Prohibited Activities.—Whoever—

(2) by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship

 

[22lcidw]

I didnt say I spoke for God. I said I like my chances defending my support for the oppressed over the oppressors. I'll remind Him where you stand when we get there.

The human species can be selfish. Spouting support for something without paying for it means little. Progressives forget about that. Politicians do raise taxes on the lower classes in different ways though and unfortunately that affects those who need resources also.

 

[22lcidw]

This thread is about a pastor who is working for ICE. “Faith without works is dead.” Is a quote transparent enough for you to figure out. For me, I wont be answering for supporting the vileness of these times but feel free to work up your argument. I am sure it will be compelling.

If you can get most of your Progressive voters to give much more in taxes to pay for all of the extra illegals coming in and all of the people on the planet that needs it, then do it. You won't. We waste so much. How can we have perma ghettos? For 60 years of the great society.

 

[SurferH2O]

Splain

Who was hurt?
What damage was done?

They had children in tears in a religious sanctuary. They stopped Americans' right to their 1st Amendment religious worship.

The FACE Act, which is federal law, prohibits anyone from protesting in a house of worship with 6 months in prison and $10K fine for the first violation.

You're uninformed and clearly hate Christianity and Freedom of Religion. Just say you hate the 1st Amendment. We get it.

 

[citygator]

If you can get most of your Progressive voters to give much more in taxes to pay for all of the extra illegals coming in and all of the people on the planet that needs it, then do it. You won't. We waste so much. How can we have perma ghettos? For 60 years of the great society.

I'd settle for clawing back the social security from the old folks who ran up a $30T debt bill, while passing laws guaranteeing themselves income payments from the rest of us, then ran out without paying the bill, knowing it runs out eventually. Who demands we pay for them to live their lives as freebie old people after saddling us with debt?

 

[Oddball]

Dude. Do some homework. You are usually not this uninformed.

He's trolling...He sucks at it.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

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I was encouraged by her post Sunday, but....

But then I wondered if it was just more weak sauce....

Legal analyst Emily Campagno says there are plenty of potential charges...



They need to nip this crap in the bud before it spreads. They should charge him with something so they can arrest him, and then figure out all the other charges while he is in custody.

 

[OldFlame]

Self evident joker. ICE activities are vile and un-Christian. They murder, abuse, and are full of racists and vile men. Their activities are both illegal and more importantly for this discussion immoral. Stick up all you want for them at the gates. I've chose to denounce their activities and I like where I will stand when the day comes.

So how should ICE go about arresting and deporting illegals? Let's hear your methodology for how it should be done 'right'.

What's 'un-Christian' about them?

Racist? How so? How many illegals in the country are 'minorities'?

 

[Hollie]

The lying, fat moron won't last another 3 months.

Is that the diagnosis you received? Go out in a glorious jihad and ram yourself some ICE agents with your car. You can be a famous lesbian like Mr. Good.

 

[OldFlame]

I'd settle for clawing back the social security from the old folks who ran up a $30T debt bill, while passing laws guaranteeing themselves income payments from the rest of us, then ran out without paying the bill, knowing it runs out eventually. Who demands we pay for them to live their lives as freebie old people after saddling us with debt?

How much of your money are you using to support the down trodden? You of course have purchased a very modest house, use public transportation only, don't take vacations, or go out to eat at all because you want to live very humbly and donate the rest to those who need it more than you do? Right?

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Racist? How so? How many illegals in the country are 'minorities'?

And the ICE agents themselves...

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[Concerned American]

And the ICE agents themselves...

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Hmmm. With the possible exception of your second and last bullet-point, those statistics seem to accurately reflect the demographics of the US. The second may have a reason due to physical attributes necessary to perform the task and who knows why you would want to publicize mental illness in the last.

 

[struth]

If Churches were private clubs with restricted membership, you might have a point.

But most churches I know have open doors and welcome the public.
Anyone who disrupts a service can be asked to leave.
If they refuse, they can be arrested for trespass but not for exercising free speech

You don’t a right to protest, peaceful or otherwise in a church