Missouri Police Taser Injured Boy Up to 19 Times

[Reality]

I'm seriously so fucking pissed off today it defies description.

What we have is a system that rewards statistics. Arrests are good. Convictions are good for DAs. Its called career advancement. And god forbid someone gets found not guilty...

I fucking hate the police. Glorified tax collectors with guns and a bad attitude. A lobby that fights for them being the only armed people. I'll take my chances with the statistics of being a victim of a crime and defending myself over having any interaction with 5-0. Of course being harassed by a cop is far more difficult to avoid. The cops, not crime, is the single greatest argument for second amendment rights being preserved.

 

[Striker]

I'm seriously so fucking pissed off today it defies description.

What we have is a system that rewards statistics. Arrests are good. Convictions are good for DAs. Its called career advancement. And god forbid someone gets found not guilty...

I fucking hate the police. Glorified tax collectors with guns and a bad attitude. A lobby that fights for them being the only armed people. I'll take my chances with the statistics of being a victim of a crime and defending myself over having any interaction with 5-0. Of course being harassed by a cop is far more difficult to avoid. The cops, not crime, is the single greatest argument for second amendment rights being preserved.

I'm not gonna paint ALL cops w/ that brush but we have got to take the profit motive/career advancement factor out of the criminal justice system.

A DA should not be allowed to serve in any Government position (elected or appointed) for at least 15 years after serving his stint. Malicious prosecution for political advancement needs to be stopped.

This entire Country should be shall issue CCW. For alot of reasons.

 

[editec]

The cops, not crime, is the single greatest argument for second amendment rights being preserved.

Well when in hell are these gun queers going to start shooting back then?

Hell, most of those notwits are all for police brutality as far as I can see.

they're so hepped up on how society coddle criminals, they generally support police brutality.

If you happen to be a gun queer, but truly aren't like that, my apologies in advance, but that's my impression of that class of gun obseeeed people.

They talk talk talk about how they're all about social revolution and social justice but never do a damned thing about it but obsess about how cool the techology is.

 

[LOki]

The bullying police-state pigs these days have an over-developed, and abusive sense of entitlement to violence--all premised upon their warped notions of personal safety; safety that has been compromised by nothing other than their own abuses of their authority, and their sadistic, trigger happy rationalizations to taze (shoot, club, mace, etc...) first, and ask questions later.

 

[Striker]

Well when in hell are these gun queers going to start shooting back then?

Hell, most of those notwits are all for police brutality as far as I can see.

they're so hepped up on how society coddle criminals, they generally support police brutality.

If you happen to be a gun queer, but truly aren't like that, my apologies in advance, but that's my impression of that class of gun obseeeed people.

They talk talk talk about how they're all about social revolution and social justice but never do a damned thing about it but obsess about how cool the techology is.

If I get you right, you're talking about the "Gunshow Cowboys."

I have to laugh when I meet some yo-yo at a show, who never served a day in the mud, all dressed out in camo, talking about all his "gear" and his "shelter" and of course the coming "Revolution."

"They'll never get MY guns!"

Bullshit! I'm not saying I wouldn't resist but if it came down to it every gunowner in this country would be toast. In a world where an Apache can hold off ten miles away and send one through your bedroom window, at night, I don't hold out much hope that our "Revolution" would be a real big deal.

It is what it is.

 

[Reality]

I'm not gonna paint ALL cops w/ that brush

You know, and I shouldn't have either. This crap (abuse of govt allocated power) gets my taint wrapped in such a bunch that I lash out.

 

[Striker]

You know, and I shouldn't have either. This crap (abuse of govt allocated power) gets my taint wrapped in such a bunch that I lash out.

I hear ya man.

 

[Ninja]

Glorified tax collectors with guns and a bad attitude.

I call LE "welfare with badges." Unless we're talking about CHP (our version of state troopers) and then it's "AAA with a badge."

Great post.

 

[LOki]

I'm not gonna paint ALL cops w/ that brush...

I'll enthusiasticly paint all cops with that brush right up to the day those not directly involved in the abuses their "brothers" are committing stop using the "blue wall of silence" excuse, and take that bullshit, sadistic bullying every bit as seriously as they take it when committed by other shit-knuckled bullies that aren't operating from behind badges.

 

[editec]

If I get you right, you're talking about the "Gunshow Cowboys."

I have to laugh when I meet some yo-yo at a show, who never served a day in the mud, all dressed out in camo, talking about all his "gear" and his "shelter" and of course the coming "Revolution."

"They'll never get MY guns!"

Bullshit! I'm not saying I wouldn't resist but if it came down to it every gunowner in this country would be toast. In a world where an Apache can hold off ten miles away and send one through your bedroom window, at night, I don't hold out much hope that our "Revolution" would be a real big deal.

It is what it is.

Yup, that's exactly the kind of wierdo I'm talking about.

As to revolution by gun-smart guys?

Never gonna happen.

Minutemen they're not, know what I mean?

 

[Ninja]

Yes editec, every gun owner is a mall ninja

You'll see some of the most anti-LEO sentiments anywhere on a gun forum. Your opinion is the diametric opposite of reality. Get a clue.

 

[Diuretic]

I'll enthusiasticly paint all cops with that brush right up to the day those not directly involved in the abuses their "brothers" are committing stop using the "blue wall of silence" excuse, and take that bullshit, sadistic bullying every bit as seriously as they take it when committed by other shit-knuckled bullies that aren't operating from behind badges.

The "blue wall of silence" isn't an excuse, it's an explanation. It's actually an interesting phenomenon because its origins lie in necessity. It's necessary for cops to trust one another and to have solidarity with one another. Can you imagine the dysfunctional nature of a police organisation where individuals didn't feel as if they should support and protect each other?

The problem is obviously that at some point that necessary support and idea of mutual protection becomes distorted into something else. Blind loyalty to colleagues takes precedence over duty. There are reasons for that but there's no excuse for it. The problem is that the socialisation process for cops is so powerful. In eighteen months that's it, it's got you and it will continue to grip you until you struggle against the negative aspects.

 

[Ninja]

Yup, that's exactly the kind of wierdo I'm talking about.

As to revolution by gun-smart guys?

Never gonna happen.

Minutemen they're not, know what I mean?

The only revolution-obsessed wierdos I see on a regular basis are the d-bags marching around at anti-war rallies in "America Needs a Regime Change" t-shirts while banging on their bongo drums. Hmm, I want regime change but I eschewed provate gun ownership. Yeah, that's what I thought, Minuteman.

I'd be lying if I said there weren't more than a few tinfoil hat types in the gun community. But did you ever think that some people don't own guns to foment revolution? That some people are concerned with protecting their lives and the lives of their loved ones? I'll be the thought never even crossed your mind.

As for the actually feasibility of a revolution:

There are something like 300 million firearms in the US and 80 million gun owners (at least).

Civilian shooters routinely beat .mil and LE guys in competition.

I firmly believe that most soldiers would side with their countrymen, and bring their fancy equipment (fighter jets, submarines, tanks, aircraft carriers, etc) with them .

As to what could actually bring about a revolution, your guess is as good as mine. And I don't see the point of one now. I think voting and contributing monetarily to causes you support is much more productive.

 

[editec]

I'd be lying if I said there weren't more than a few tinfoil hat types in the gun community.

Well that's who I'm talking about, sport. And how many times have I already read here from our resident gun queers about how the 2nd amendment is there to keep the goverment from becoming oppressive?

"BECOMING !" I ask myself? What a load of bullshit.

But did you ever think that some people don't own guns to foment revolution? That some people are concerned with protecting their lives and the lives of their loved ones? I'll be the thought never even crossed your mind.

Oh bugger off.

I get so sick you pansy gun queer jerkoffs imagining you can read my mind.

You clearly don't bother to read my words to really know what my position on this subject is but the moment your gun obsession is threatened you start assuming a load of hooey.

I have stated numerous times on this board already that I don't blame people living in high crime areas for arming themselves and that, were I living in such a place, I would too.

As for the actually feasibility of a revolution:

There are something like 300 million firearms in the US and 80 million gun owners (at least).

Civilian shooters routinely beat .mil and LE guys in competition.

I firmly believe that most soldiers would side with their countrymen, and bring their fancy equipment (fighter jets, submarines, tanks, aircraft carriers, etc) with them .

As to what could actually bring about a revolution, your guess is as good as mine. And I don't see the point of one now. I think voting and contributing monetarily to causes you support is much more productive.

Zero.shit chance of the gun queer community standing up to authority, I suspect.

Hell most of those gun obsessed wankers are slavish to authority, if anything.

 

[Ninja]

And how many times have I already read here from our resident gun queers about how the 2nd amendment is there to keep the goverment from becoming oppressive?

They're partially correct. Your point? That hardly makes them "all about social revolution."

I get so sick you pansy gun queer jerkoffs imagining you can read my mind. You clearly don't bother to read my words

Who claimed to read your mind? Quote?

the moment your gun obsession is threatened you start assuming a load of hooey.

Scalia busting a nut in your ass relieves me of the need to be threatened

Besides, I'd much rather have sociopaths like you posting on message boards than actually influencing government policy.

Hell most of those gun obsessed wankers are slavish to authority, if anything.

Got a source for this, or are you just farting out Scalia's cumshot?

 

[Ninja]

This gun-obsessed wanker sure was slavish to authority, huh?

Wed Jul 30, 1:27 PM ET

MINNEAPOLIS - Eight police officers who raided an innocent family's house last year, trading fire with the terrified husband, have received medals — and that has outraged the family.

Three officers involved in the Dec. 16 raid, which stemmed from bad information from an informant, received medals of valor from Police Chief Tim Dolan on Monday. The other five got medals of commendation.

Yee Moua said her family is "a mess right now," and her 9-year-old son, who saw the shooting, "still has nightmares and has needed therapy."

Police entered the home expecting to find a violent gang member. Yee Moua's husband, Vang Khang, thought they were being robbed and shot at the officers through a bedroom door.

The officers, members of the Minneapolis Police Department's SWAT team, were wearing protective gear and were not injured. But they returned fire.

Members of the family also were not physically injured, but the house was left filled with bullet holes and broken glass. Two days later, Dolan apologized and started an internal investigation.

"They were outraged and they were hurt. ... To this day this family continues to suffer," said their attorney, former U.S. attorney Tom Heffelfinger.

The investigation found the team had gone there looking for a gang member's guns after an informant gave investigators bad information. Authorities are still looking into how the case was handled before the raid, but Dolan said the SWAT officers themselves have been cleared.

Heffelfinger said the family has notified the city that they plan to file a lawsuit. He questions the timing and motives for the award.

But Dolan said in a statement: "The officers put themselves in harm's way. They were shot at and shot and deserved to be recognized."

Minn. officers involved in botched raid get medals - Yahoo! News

 

[Ninja]

Gun-obsessed Vin Suprynowicz, slavish to authority!

‘No-Knock’ Searches Get People Killed by Vin Suprynowicz

 

[Ninja]

AR15.com member writes,

"I've been a member for quite a while now. I don't make a lot of posts, but there are a lot of interesting topics to read. My question is this, is it just me or is there an awful lot of anti-police and anti-government talk? Has this been brought up before?"

Clearly the answer is no, because gun-obsessed wankers are slavish to authority!

AR15.COM :: Forums :: Anti-Police on ARFCOM

 

[Ninja]

Gun-obsessed wanker Branch Davidians, slavish to authority!

 

[Ninja]

Gun-obsessed Randy Weaver, slavish to authority!