Mike Johnson: Problem Is the Human Heart, Not Guns

[Mac-7]

You get more stupid by the day, don't you? America is greater than anyone else, because we have more mass killings?

Dont attack me based on things I didnt say

Here’s something you can quote me on:

If bleeding heart libs would stop coddling criminals gun violence would plummet

 

[Mac-7]

So now you know more about what I will do than I do.

That is entirely possible

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Not if you’re someone who says guns are bad because they cause deaths. That’s a broad statement where something like cars absolutely applies.

Are you saying guns are bad because they cause deaths?

 

[miketx]

Not if you’re someone who says guns are bad because they cause deaths. That’s a broad statement where something like cars absolutely applies.

You're an idiot, guns don't cause anything.

 

[BULLDOG]

Are you saying guns are bad because they cause deaths?

Many are specifically designed to kill people. That was the main design criteria.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Many are specifically designed to kill people. That was the main design criteria.

They are all specifically designed to kill. That is why the car argument is a stupid political false equivalence.

 

[BULLDOG]

They are all specifically designed to kill. That is why the car argument is a stupid political false equivalence.

They were all designed to kill, but one class of firearmes was specifically designed to kill as many people as possible in the least amount of time, in combat situations. There are tons of arms that the public is limited from having. Concerning the 2nd amendment, how are grenades limited to civilians, while other weapons of war are allowed?

 

[Burgermeister]

Parents of kids shot to death in big cities across America every week be like, how come they never talk about us?

 

[Blues Man]

We don't have universal background checks.

Quite a few states do

 

[Blues Man]

It's not the size of the round that does the damage, it what it does when it hits the body. The gun was designed for war - so that when you shoott someone, they don't get up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/interactive/2023/ar-15-damage-to-human-body/

AR-15s Were Made to Explode Human Bodies. In Uvalde, the Bodies Belonged to Children.

The Uvalde massacre was carried out by a man who legally bought two AR-15 rifles ahead of the school shooting.

theintercept.com

Any of my rifles will do the same or worse damage to a body and not a single one is an AR 15

 

[Blues Man]

Oh, wait. You wanna take a class before you can talk?

My first reaction was "that's retarded", but then I thought about it and maybe if some of you losers actually read the document you claim to love so much we wouldn't have so many RWNJs anymore so lets get started.

That's what you want to to require before a person can exercise the right the Second Amendment guarantees.

And you said you were OK to apply that standard to all the other rights enumerated in the Bill of rights.

So take pay for and take a class then register then pay for a permit before you can exercise any rights.

 

[Blues Man]

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Good thing I'm not a republican ( or a democrat)

 

[Blues Man]

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[Blues Man]

Do you know where the guns most criminal have came from?

Yes I do

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/suficspi16.pdf

Among prisoners who possessed a gun during their offense, 90% did not obtain it from a retail source.

frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS

"Stolen guns account for only about 10% to 15% of guns used in crimes,"

one of the most common ways criminals get guns is through straw purchase sales.

The next biggest source of illegal gun transactions where criminals get guns are sales made by legally licensed but corrupt at-home and commercial gun dealers

Another large source of guns used in crimes are unlicensed street dealers

 

[Blues Man]

Most are bought legally.

Wrong

 

[BULLDOG]

Quite a few states do

Because private sales and transfers are exempted from checks and records requirements, it’s unclear how many take place. Our gun sales tracker, for example, relies on background check data and doesn’t include sales that happen without one.
Some estimates do exist, though: A 2017 survey found that 13 percent of new gun owners reported that they had purchased their gun without a background check. The same survey found that 45 percent of gun owners who bought a gun online in the previous two years did not undergo a background check. A separate study found that roughly 80 percent of guns acquired for criminal purposes are obtained through unlicensed sellers.
With upward of 400 million guns in circulation, the number of guns sold without a background check could be in the millions.
About 20 states have background check requirements greater than required by federal law, but it's doubtful if any are truly universal.

Which States Have Universal Gun Background Checks?

Though federal legislation to strengthen requirements hasn’t passed, many individual states have plugged some of the gaps.

www.thetrace.org

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Of course he's right. It's simple logic. The problem isn't guns. Any more than the problem with forest fires is matches or lighters.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mike-johnson-maine-shooting/2023/10/27/id/1139921/

I am sure it has been asked, but why do we seem to be the only industrialized nation to have these problems of the heart?

 

[Blues Man]

Because private sales and transfers are exempted from checks and records requirements, it’s unclear how many take place. Our gun sales tracker, for example, relies on background check data and doesn’t include sales that happen without one.
Some estimates do exist, though: A 2017 survey found that 13 percent of new gun owners reported that they had purchased their gun without a background check. The same survey found that 45 percent of gun owners who bought a gun online in the previous two years did not undergo a background check. A separate study found that roughly 80 percent of guns acquired for criminal purposes are obtained through unlicensed sellers.
With upward of 400 million guns in circulation, the number of guns sold without a background check could be in the millions.
About 20 states have background check requirements greater than required by federal law, but it's doubtful if any are truly universal.

Which States Have Universal Gun Background Checks?

Though federal legislation to strengthen requirements hasn’t passed, many individual states have plugged some of the gaps.

www.thetrace.org

Quite a few states require BGCs on private sales.

If you want this then the NICS system needs to be opened up to the public and accessed at no cost.

And even then there should be no record keeping requirements for the general public. if the buyer is cleared by the NICS check that's good enough

 

[2aguy]

I guess other advanced nations have more heart as they have a lower firearm homicide rate. Not really surprising, is it?

No......in the 1920s they registered guns, then began to confiscate and ban them....

In 1939, they began the process of murdering 15-20 million innocent men, women and children...over 1 million children.

6 years to murder 15-20 million people.

Gun murder in the U.S. over our entire 247 year history? Around 2,470,000

Can you tell us how many hundreds of years it will take us to catch up to the number of people the European socialists murdered?

And on top of that, gun crime across Europe is now going up....from Britain, france, the Netherlands, and Sweden....as immigrants from 3rd world hell holes take over their illegal drug gangs......

So they are increasing their gun crime and gun murder, using fully automatic miltiary rifles and hand grenades......

 

[2aguy]

I am sure it has been asked, but why do we seem to be the only industrialized nation to have these problems of the heart?

We don't, Europe is catching up.....and when their hamas supporters decide to do another Oct. 7 in say, London, or Paris......their citizens will wish they had guns....