Migrants Describe What Is Happening at Guantanamo Bay....Cruelty On A Massive Scale, Migrants Trying To Commit Suicide

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Death.......taxes........democrats aligned with criminals.

MAGA Nazis aligned with the Jan 6 traitors.

 

[Concerned American]

Neither political party has ever been in favour of deporting illegals that perform essential labour on the cheap in America.

Irrelevant. US law is not in favor of illegal immigration, next.

It worked fine for political purposes, but now it's time to let it go! It's counter-productive and the equivalent of Americans shooting their own feet.

If you were an American, you would have standing. Since you are a busy body Canadian with his unwanted nose in his neighbors business, you don't. Now run along, duck.

 

[Scoutster]

Gitmo doesn’t look that bad

 

[Meister]

Blah, Blah, Blah....you still enjoy brutalizing non-violent illegal immigrants.

That's the ugly truth about you.

Well, you refer to murderers as non violent apparently

 

[Donald H]

Illegal entry to the US is a violation that DOES warrant deportation. The rest of your ignorant post is irrelevant, duck. Try again.

Our topic that you chose iis off-topic according to you:

Torture in the Bible (21 instances)

Genesis 29:32 - Leah conceived, bore a son, and named him Reuben, because she was saying, The LORD had looked on my torture, so now my husband will love me.

bible.knowing-jesus.com

The topic for the rest of us has been addressed in my previous post. The law can't send essential workers home in any appreciable numbers. Please stifle my friend!

 

[Donald H]

Irrelevant. US law is not in favor of illegal immigration, next.

If you were an American, you would have standing. Since you are a busy body Canadian with his unwanted nose in his neighbors business, you don't. Now run along, duck.

I'm an atheist who doesn't advocate torture.

Now I'm running along and the reason is because this thread is one that will not be moderated, because it's more spam and hurling insults than it is substance to the topic.

 

[Delldude]

A migrant originally from Venezuela, Diuvar Uzcátegui, described to the Washington Post what is happening at Guantanamo Bay. He was arrested in El Paso in late January, while working in construction. He had no criminal record at all. He fled Venezuela to escape the misery being caused there by dictator Nicholas Maduro.

He had been cooperating with ICE agents since December 2023, when he crossed the border illegally. He was informed by ICE that he missed an appointment with them in late January, which he denies, and that is when he was arrested by ICE and sent to Guantanamo. He then spent two weeks there before being sent back to Venezuela, almost losing his mind in the process.

The migrants are spending almost 24 hours per day in an isolated cell. They are allowed to go outside once per week. Psychologists have stated for years that prolonged isolation like this in a jail cell can cause people to lose their grip on reality. Several migrants have tried to kill themselves by various means, as described below.

This is straight out of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, treating human beings like this.

From the Washington Post. --

Uzcátegui, José Daniel Simancas and Franyer Montes said they were denied calls to lawyers or loved ones after repeated pleas. They said they were subjected to humiliating and invasive strip searches. They described prolonged periods in isolation, with only two one-hour opportunities to go outside over two weeks.

Their testimonies echoed the fears expressed by human rights groups — that migrants transferred to a place known for its isolation and history of torture allegations could be vulnerable to abuse.

The migrants’ conditions in Guantánamo “were horrific, and are far more restrictive, more severe and more abusive than what we would see in a typical immigration detention facility in the United States,” said Eunice Cho, a senior staff attorney at the ACLU National Prison Project. The American Civil Liberties Union is one of many organizations that sued the administration to allow legal access to the migrants.

The migrants described being supervised by military guards, a concern for legal rights groups that have stressed that immigrants are there because of a civil, immigration violation, not alleged war crimes like the 9/11 detainees. Blurring the lines between civilian and military enforcement, Cho said, encroaches “on the division between civil society and militarized society.”

“At the end of the day, military staff are not supposed to be enforcing civilian law, which is immigration law,” Cho said. “And by placing military guards to detain people in detention, that is exactly what is happening.”

Cho said the migrants’ alleged days-long stretch in their cells also fits the definition of solitary confinement as laid out by the United Nations’ Nelson Mandela Rules, which define it as holding prisoners for more than 22 hours per day without “meaningful human contact.”

In the days that followed, more migrants began filling the naval station prison. Uzcátegui could hear men screaming from other cells, he said, pleading to be let out and threatening to kill themselves.

“Get me out of here,” he heard one scream again and again. “I’m going to kill myself.”

Franyer Montes, 22, said he reached a point in his 13-day incarceration when he considered taking his own life. Thoughts of his mother and child held him back.

José Daniel Simancas was one of the detainees who tried to kill himself during his 10-day stay there. He attempted to cut his wrists with plastic water bottles that he had tried to sharpen. But the edges didn’t cut deep enough, he said. He and the other migrants interviewed for this story said they had seen or spoken with at least two other men who acknowledged trying to end their own lives.

“One tried to hang himself with the sheet, but he couldn’t tie it to the table because it was too small,” Simancas said. “Another swallowed 10 screws, and they took him to the emergency room several times.”

He added, “We all thought about killing ourselves.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...tanamo-trump-migrants-deportations-venezuela/

Only the nice ones get to stay there.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I'm an atheist who doesn't advocate torture.

Now I'm running along and the reason is because this thread is one that will not be moderated, because it's more spam and hurling insults than it is substance to the topic.

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As usual.


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[Meathead]

A migrant originally from Venezuela, Diuvar Uzcátegui, described to the Washington Post what is happening at Guantanamo Bay. He was arrested in El Paso in late January, while working in construction. He had no criminal record at all. He fled Venezuela to escape the misery being caused there by dictator Nicholas Maduro.

He had been cooperating with ICE agents since December 2023, when he crossed the border illegally. He was informed by ICE that he missed an appointment with them in late January, which he denies, and that is when he was arrested by ICE and sent to Guantanamo. He then spent two weeks there before being sent back to Venezuela, almost losing his mind in the process.

The migrants are spending almost 24 hours per day in an isolated cell. They are allowed to go outside once per week. Psychologists have stated for years that prolonged isolation like this in a jail cell can cause people to lose their grip on reality. Several migrants have tried to kill themselves by various means, as described below.

This is straight out of Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, treating human beings like this.

From the Washington Post. --

Uzcátegui, José Daniel Simancas and Franyer Montes said they were denied calls to lawyers or loved ones after repeated pleas. They said they were subjected to humiliating and invasive strip searches. They described prolonged periods in isolation, with only two one-hour opportunities to go outside over two weeks.

Their testimonies echoed the fears expressed by human rights groups — that migrants transferred to a place known for its isolation and history of torture allegations could be vulnerable to abuse.

The migrants’ conditions in Guantánamo “were horrific, and are far more restrictive, more severe and more abusive than what we would see in a typical immigration detention facility in the United States,” said Eunice Cho, a senior staff attorney at the ACLU National Prison Project. The American Civil Liberties Union is one of many organizations that sued the administration to allow legal access to the migrants.

The migrants described being supervised by military guards, a concern for legal rights groups that have stressed that immigrants are there because of a civil, immigration violation, not alleged war crimes like the 9/11 detainees. Blurring the lines between civilian and military enforcement, Cho said, encroaches “on the division between civil society and militarized society.”

“At the end of the day, military staff are not supposed to be enforcing civilian law, which is immigration law,” Cho said. “And by placing military guards to detain people in detention, that is exactly what is happening.”

Cho said the migrants’ alleged days-long stretch in their cells also fits the definition of solitary confinement as laid out by the United Nations’ Nelson Mandela Rules, which define it as holding prisoners for more than 22 hours per day without “meaningful human contact.”

In the days that followed, more migrants began filling the naval station prison. Uzcátegui could hear men screaming from other cells, he said, pleading to be let out and threatening to kill themselves.

“Get me out of here,” he heard one scream again and again. “I’m going to kill myself.”

Franyer Montes, 22, said he reached a point in his 13-day incarceration when he considered taking his own life. Thoughts of his mother and child held him back.

José Daniel Simancas was one of the detainees who tried to kill himself during his 10-day stay there. He attempted to cut his wrists with plastic water bottles that he had tried to sharpen. But the edges didn’t cut deep enough, he said. He and the other migrants interviewed for this story said they had seen or spoken with at least two other men who acknowledged trying to end their own lives.

“One tried to hang himself with the sheet, but he couldn’t tie it to the table because it was too small,” Simancas said. “Another swallowed 10 screws, and they took him to the emergency room several times.”

He added, “We all thought about killing ourselves.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...tanamo-trump-migrants-deportations-venezuela/

 

[Dr.Destructo]

BOO FUCKING WHOOOO

Stay at home then and change your own government, instead of fucking up other peoples countries/homes/lives!!!!

 

[22lcidw]

That's a lie....and many of the Jan 6 traitors did something far worse than most of these migrants did.

I doubt most of these migrants at Guantanamo were attacking cops, like the deranged Jan 6 traitors did.

They did nothing except being a little stupid. And the 2020 election was stolen. What you saw was a minor blip to your free meal ticket. And you could not stomach losing that. It's like when you let others do the Prog dirty work like inner city residents getting them to riot. You do not suffer. They do after the fact. And are now.

 

[MarathonMike]

We aren't. Get out of here with your false equivalency.

You don't understand what false equivalency is. Selective outrage would be a more appropriate term. Hope that helps.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You don't understand what false equivalency is. Selective outrage would be a more appropriate term. Hope that helps.

The J6 magaturd tantrum is your false equivalency. Hope that helps.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

N

Well, you refer to murderers as non violent apparently

No, I did not.....lying MAGA sack of shit.

 

[WEATHER53]

Then stay home and don’t invsde
Dr Preposterous likely lying as three squares and a cot is likely better than what they came from. After all sap seller , they are All fleeing horrid oppression seeking asylum. Right???

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Only the nice ones get to stay there.

Cheerleading brutal treatment of non-violent illegal immigrants....like the MAGA Nazi that you are.

 

[whitehall]

It's gotta be true if WAPO sez so.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Then stay home and don’t invsde
Dr Preposterous likely lying as three squares and a cot is likely better than what they came from. After all sap seller , they are All fleeing horrid oppression seeking asylum. Right???

Being locked in a cell 23 hours per day with no contact with other people causes people to lose their sanity. That's why many of these migrants are trying to kill themselves.

This treatment is cruel...but you are also cruel, which is why you condone it.

 

[Meister]

N

No, I did not.....lying MAGA sack of shit.

Yeah you pretty much did with your inferring, Thanos.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Yeah you pretty much did with your inferring, Thanos.

Wrong again, troll. Come up with a real counter argument, for once. Fucking lightweight.