Michelle Claims Fat Kids Are A National Security Threat

[California Girl]

So you claim she doesn't support her own statement?



So you claim she's just repeating what the military told her. That's the context you want to give it?

I see it differently. If she didn't think it was true she should say so. But not only does she agree but she seemed to embellish it turning it into an emergency rather then simply a health matter.

I didn't claim that at all. I said that the statement originated from the US Military. That's a fact, not a claim. Michelle was backing the concerns of the Military. You can see it any way you want but the fact is that the concern was originally raised by the Military and Michelle is taking it up. I see no problem with that.

You cannot say that just from her statement. There is nothing in it that says the claim originates from the military. It merely says that the military claims kids are too fat these days. I know somebody that's trying to get into the service but has to lose over 100 lbs. to qualify. The military gives them a training and diet program to follow and it's up to them to make the grade.

This White House likes going around the Pay As You Go rule passed a few years ago, and the way they do it is by blowing everything up into a crisis. "Never let a crisis go wasted" they've said. Well in this case they're trying to invent one.

They bitched about Bush's claims of Iraq's WMDs yet they come up with one WMD after another. Folks are getting tired of it. This is a health concern....not a matter of national security.

Obesity is a major problem in the US. It is a national security issue, it impacts across every aspect of our lives. The left want a Universal Healthcare - if they get it, I'm gonna be paying for those fat kids. I would prefer we address the issue.

 

[mudwhistle]

I can tell you that kids are fatter than they were when I was a kid.

It's disgusting to see so many kids carrying to many extra pounds.

Now imagine what it looks like to those people in other places in the world where food is a serious problem.

Is it any wonder at all why so many people resent the West?

Their kids are starving, ours are developing diabetes becuase we feed them so much junk food.

Explain why we have to have a weekend feeding program then?

Seems a floating argument from the left is not exactly plausible.

Kids are getting fat from lack of exercise and poor nutrition. A Big Mac alone does not give someone diabetes.

 

[mudwhistle]

I didn't claim that at all. I said that the statement originated from the US Military. That's a fact, not a claim. Michelle was backing the concerns of the Military. You can see it any way you want but the fact is that the concern was originally raised by the Military and Michelle is taking it up. I see no problem with that.

You cannot say that just from her statement. There is nothing in it that says the claim originates from the military. It merely says that the military claims kids are too fat these days. I know somebody that's trying to get into the service but has to lose over 100 lbs. to qualify. The military gives them a training and diet program to follow and it's up to them to make the grade.

This White House likes going around the Pay As You Go rule passed a few years ago, and the way they do it is by blowing everything up into a crisis. "Never let a crisis go wasted" they've said. Well in this case they're trying to invent one.

They bitched about Bush's claims of Iraq's WMDs yet they come up with one WMD after another. Folks are getting tired of it. This is a health concern....not a matter of national security.

Obesity is a major problem in the US. It is a national security issue, it impacts across every aspect of our lives. The left want a Universal Healthcare - if they get it, I'm gonna be paying for those fat kids. I would prefer we address the issue.

Listening to politicians these days everything is a matter of national security....except maybe a strong military.....or making sure we keep our fucken secrets.

 

[California Girl]

You cannot say that just from her statement. There is nothing in it that says the claim originates from the military. It merely says that the military claims kids are too fat these days. I know somebody that's trying to get into the service but has to lose over 100 lbs. to qualify. The military gives them a training and diet program to follow and it's up to them to make the grade.

This White House likes going around the Pay As You Go rule passed a few years ago, and the way they do it is by blowing everything up into a crisis. "Never let a crisis go wasted" they've said. Well in this case they're trying to invent one.

They bitched about Bush's claims of Iraq's WMDs yet they come up with one WMD after another. Folks are getting tired of it. This is a health concern....not a matter of national security.

Obesity is a major problem in the US. It is a national security issue, it impacts across every aspect of our lives. The left want a Universal Healthcare - if they get it, I'm gonna be paying for those fat kids. I would prefer we address the issue.

Listening to politicians these days everything is a matter of national security....except maybe a strong military.....or making sure we keep our fucken secrets.

I don't disagree with your assessment, but it's unfair to lay the blame on Michelle.

 

[Gadawg73]

The problem is primarily conservative fat asses who think they have no responsiblity to their country at all. They can get as fat and sloppy as they want..and if the ticker goes..welp..that's when the government comes in and picks up the check.

Obesity is a very real and acute problem in this country. I look at our nations kids and wonder what the **** anyone is thinking feeding them high fat and high sugar crapola while getting them excused from Gym. In my day..you were required to pass a gym physical. That should be brought back.

So 3 out of 4 kids in this country are from conservative families? Why is there still a democratic party?

My kids are but 3 out of 4 aren't.
Where did you get that from?

 

[Synthaholic]

You cannot say that just from her statement. There is nothing in it that says the claim originates from the military. It merely says that the military claims kids are too fat these days. I know somebody that's trying to get into the service but has to lose over 100 lbs. to qualify. The military gives them a training and diet program to follow and it's up to them to make the grade.

This White House likes going around the Pay As You Go rule passed a few years ago, and the way they do it is by blowing everything up into a crisis. "Never let a crisis go wasted" they've said. Well in this case they're trying to invent one.

They bitched about Bush's claims of Iraq's WMDs yet they come up with one WMD after another. Folks are getting tired of it. This is a health concern....not a matter of national security.

Obesity is a major problem in the US. It is a national security issue, it impacts across every aspect of our lives. The left want a Universal Healthcare - if they get it, I'm gonna be paying for those fat kids. I would prefer we address the issue.

Listening to politicians these days everything is a matter of national security....except maybe a strong military.....or making sure we keep our fucken secrets.

Are you too stupid, or just too lazy, to open the links which are provided for your education?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/3086064-post147.html

The link "Too Fat To Fight" was one of the reports which prompted this fight against obesity.

To further accommodate your laziness, here's the list of "Socialists" who are supporting Michelle Obama's campaign against obesity:


Executive Advisory Council
General John M. Shalikashvili, US Army (Ret.)
General Henry “Hugh” Shelton, US Army (Ret.)
General Walter E. Boomer, US Marine Corps (Ret.)
General Wesley Clark, US Army (Ret.)
General Richard E. Hawley, US Air Force (Ret.)
General Lester L. Lyles, US Air Force (Ret.)
General Gregory S. “Speedy” Martin, US Air Force (Ret.)
General Johnnie E. Wilson, US Army (Ret.)
Admiral Leon A. “Bud” Edney, US Navy (Ret.)
Admiral Edmund P. Giambastiani, Jr., US Navy (Ret.)
Admiral Thomas B. Hayward, US Navy (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Joe N. Ballard, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Dennis L. Benchoff, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General John B. Blount, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William J. Bolt, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Robert G. Gard, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Arthur J. Gregg, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Jerome B. Hilmes, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Donald L. Kerrick, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Carol A. Mutter, US Marine Corps (Ret.)
Lieutenant General David H. Ohle, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General John P. Otjen, US Army (Ret.)
Retired Military Leaders Want Junk Food Out of America’s Schools
Lieutenant General Garry L. Parks, US Marine Corps (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Ricardo S. Sanchez, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Norman R. Seip, US Air Force (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William P. Tangney, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Ronald L. Watts, US Army (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Joseph H. Wehrle, US Air Force (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Robert J. Winglass, US Marine Corps (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Donald Arthur, US Navy (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward H. Martin, US Navy (Ret.)
Vice Admiral James A. Zimble, US Navy (Ret.)
Major General Earl L. Adams, US Army (Ret.)
Major General James B. Allen, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Major General Keith D. Bjerke, US Air Force (Ret.)
Major General Buford “Buff” Blount, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Roger R. Blunt, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Larry D. Budge, US Army (Ret.)
Major General William F. Burns, US Army (Ret.)
Major General George A. Buskirk, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Major General Jack J. Catton, Jr., US Air Force (Ret.)
Major General Carroll D. Childers, US Army (Ret.)
Major General George F. Close, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Major General James W. Comstock, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Wesley E. Craig, US Army (Ret.)
Major General John T. Crowe, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Nelson E. Durgin, US Air Force (Ret.)
Major General Paul D. Eaton, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Frank R. Faykes, US Air Force (Ret.)
Major General John T. Furlow, US Army (Ret.)
Major General James H. Garner, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Peter J. Gravett, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Gerald Harman, US Army National Guard (Ret.)
Major General George H. Harmeyer, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Ralph L. Haynes, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Donald R. Infante, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Jerome Johnson, US Army (Ret.)
Major General James A. Kelley, US Army (Ret.)
Major General James R. Klugh, US Army (Ret.)
Major General John W. Libby, US Army (Ret.)
Major General James H. Lipscomb, US Army (Ret.)
Major General William J. Lutz, US Air Force (Ret.)
Major General Lester Martinez-Lopez, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Paul E. Mock, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Paul D. Monroe, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Major General Stephen E. Nichols, US Army (Ret.)
Major General George W. “Nordie” Norwood, US Air Force (Ret.)
Major General Daniel J. O’Neill, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Joseph F. Perugino, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Walter F. Pudlowski, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Major General James I. “Ike” Pylant, US Army (Ret.)
Major General John A. Renner, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Henry D. Robertson, US Marine Corps (Ret.)
Major General William H. Russ, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Roger W. Sandler, US Army (Ret.)
Major General George J. Smith, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Carroll L. Thackston, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Thomas J. Thorne, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Paul E. Vallely, US Army (Ret.)
Major General Richard O. Wightman, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James A. Barnett, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert E. Besal, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Walter H. Cantrell, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James J. Carey, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Roland G. Guibault, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John G. Hekman, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Edward K. Kristensen, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James E. McPherson, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Stuart F. Platt, US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Joseph A. “Joe” Sestak, Jr., US Navy (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Alan M. Steinman, US Coast Guard (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert Sutton, US Navy (Ret.)
Brigadier General Clara L. Adams-Ender, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Sherian G. Cadoria, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert G. Carmichael, Jr., US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General George N. Clark, Jr., US Air Force (Ret.)
Brigadier General Julia J. Cleckley, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Augustus L. Collins, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General James P. Combs, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General John W. Douglass, US Air Force (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael A. Dunn, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Charles K. Ebner, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General John L. Finan, US Air Force (Ret.)
Brigadier General Evelyn “Pat” Foote, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert E. Gaylord, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Lawrence E. Gillespie, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Larry E. Gilman, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Larry W. Haltom, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General David Hicks, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Keith H. Kerr, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald H. Marden, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General David L. McGinnis, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Marvin E. Mitchiner, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Gary M. Profit, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Velma L. “Von” Richardson, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General James H. Schwitters, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Roger L. Shields, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General David A. Sprenkle, US Air Force (Ret.)
Brigadier General Preston Taylor, US Air Force (Ret.)
Brigadier General William T. Thielemann, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Terry J. Tyler, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ted Vander Els, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Augustine A. Verrengia, US Air Force (Ret.)
Brigadier General John M. Watkins, US Army (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack Yeager, US Army (Ret.)
Enlisted Leadership
Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force Frederick J. Finch (Ret.)
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy James L. Herdt (Ret.)
Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps John L. Estrada (Ret.)
Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps Alford L. McMichael (Ret.)
Sergeant Major of the Army Reserve Michele S. Jones (Ret.)
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Coast Guard Vincent W. Patton, III (Ret.)
Sergeant Major of the Army Jack L. Tilley (Ret.)
Civilian Leadership
Former Secretary of the Navy John H. Dalton
Former Under Secretary of the Army Joe R. Reeder

 

[California Girl]

It would be cool if, instead of partisan sniping, we could actually address the root issue. Just an idea - albeit a radical one.

Fat kids become fat adults - with a massive impact on our society. The 'national security' thing is nonsense but the sentiments are not. We desperately need to educate parents - and children - about why healthy eating is important. That will be where the left and right will split. The left will want to ban shit and legislate, the right will want to educate and provide information to help people make wise choices.

 

[Ravi]

It would be cool if, instead of partisan sniping, we could actually address the root issue. Just an idea - albeit a radical one.

Fat kids become fat adults - with a massive impact on our society. The 'national security' thing is nonsense but the sentiments are not. We desperately need to educate parents - and children - about why healthy eating is important. That will be where the left and right will split. The left will want to ban shit and legislate, the right will want to educate and provide information to help people make wise choices.

This is exactly what Michelle Obama is pushing. That and asking public schools to serve healthy foods instead of fat laden crap.

Obviously this is a bad idea if one is a rightwingloon.

 

[California Girl]

It would be cool if, instead of partisan sniping, we could actually address the root issue. Just an idea - albeit a radical one.

Fat kids become fat adults - with a massive impact on our society. The 'national security' thing is nonsense but the sentiments are not. We desperately need to educate parents - and children - about why healthy eating is important. That will be where the left and right will split. The left will want to ban shit and legislate, the right will want to educate and provide information to help people make wise choices.

This is exactly what Michelle Obama is pushing. That and asking public schools to serve healthy foods instead of fat laden crap.

Obviously this is a bad idea if one is a rightwingloon.

Which is why I'm actually defending Michelle. This right wing loon happens to agree - for the most part - with the First Lady. Red letter day!

 

[Synthaholic]

It would be cool if, instead of partisan sniping, we could actually address the root issue. Just an idea - albeit a radical one.

Fat kids become fat adults - with a massive impact on our society. The 'national security' thing is nonsense but the sentiments are not. We desperately need to educate parents - and children - about why healthy eating is important. That will be where the left and right will split. The left will want to ban shit and legislate, the right will want to educate and provide information to help people make wise choices.

The list of military professionals in the post above yours disagree with you.

What makes you believe you know more about national security than they do?

 

[rightwinger]

It would be cool if, instead of partisan sniping, we could actually address the root issue. Just an idea - albeit a radical one.

Fat kids become fat adults - with a massive impact on our society. The 'national security' thing is nonsense but the sentiments are not. We desperately need to educate parents - and children - about why healthy eating is important. That will be where the left and right will split. The left will want to ban shit and legislate, the right will want to educate and provide information to help people make wise choices.

The issue is that First Ladies pick issues that they think need attention during their husbands presidency. It has been done since Eleanor Roosevelt.

As in everything Obama, the right wing feels it must attack....even if they happen to agree with it

 

[rightwinger]

It would be cool if, instead of partisan sniping, we could actually address the root issue. Just an idea - albeit a radical one.

Fat kids become fat adults - with a massive impact on our society. The 'national security' thing is nonsense but the sentiments are not. We desperately need to educate parents - and children - about why healthy eating is important. That will be where the left and right will split. The left will want to ban shit and legislate, the right will want to educate and provide information to help people make wise choices.

The list of military professionals in the post above yours disagree with you.

What makes you believe you know more about national security than they do?

It affects National Security in that if the US were to ever get involved in a WWII sized conflict that the pool of available candidates would not meet physical standards. Americans are too fat, it impacts all areas of our society especially healthcare costs.

To urge a generic change in our mindset towards eating and exercise is in the nations best interests

 

[Meister]

it isnt?....they cant try and get people to realise whats happening health wise?.....they cant put out public service messages telling people this?.....it wont be much of a Govt if 30-50% of the people are suffering from the health issues that Obesity and Diabetes brings on will it?.....and since its happening at an earlier age,all the problems associated with these too problems,will set in, in midlife instead of old age.....thats great aint it?.....the Govt should ignore a National Health problem because its not in the Constitution.....does not the Constitution say....."promote the general Welfare"?......what does that mean?..... is not the HEALTH of the Citizens of this Country something that affects the General Welfare of the Country?....the US Govt. has every right to be concerned about the health of its Citizens.....without those Citizens the Govt aint worth shit.....i cant believe the amount of people here who think this is something to just let happen....who gives a shit.....as Spock would say.....FASCINATING......

Harry, they're just being stupid idiotic partisan hacks. Whether the government should be involved or not, the First Lady has ALWAYS had a cause that she trumpeted from her position; this just happens to be Michelle's. They know this, they just don't care.

i know ....all that has already been mentioned.....Laura and Illiteracy.....Nancy and Drugs....the thing is....how many people here defending little Obese kids,see these kids and see their Obese parents and then think shitty things about how sad it is for those kids....but thats ok.....just let them grow up to be the next generation of Obese people who will in turn have more Obese kids....in the meantime 40 percent of the population will be on the cusp of Diabetes.....15% will already have it....another percentage will have it.....but dont know it.....but the Govt should not be concerned about it.....

Where does "personal responsibility" stop, and "government" takes over? Once this has been established, then government can set standards on countless issues. This is where the problem lies IMO.

 

[Ozmar]

Arrest all the fat kids!

They're usually the most obnoxious...

 

[trlrtrash13]

Help me out here mud. Your quote said:

“Military leaders … tell us that when more than one in four young people are unqualified for military service because of their weight,” the first lady says in the prepared remarks, “childhood obesity isn’t just a public health threat, it’s not just an economic threat, it’s a national security threat as well."

She is quoting what military leaders said. Now, you're holding Mrs. Obama accountable for making sure every child in America exercises and eats right, and not thier PARENTS, or themselves?


To me she's saying if things don't change, a lot of these unhealthy, overweight children wouldn't qualify for the military when they are old enough to join.


Teaching kids, and their parents, how to make healthy choices in eating and exercise seems like a great idea to me.

Because, Echo, she used the innocuous term "military leaders tell me" What military leaders? Bring them forth, let them speak. The military is voluntary service.

I found said Military leaders. Part of the truth is left out of her statement and the other part is distorted. Here is the whole truth.

A RETIRED ARMY GENERAL (not military leaders) stated that kids are failing to meet standards on education, character, and health. See here. Then, other retired military leaders agreed that it is a problem, but they stop far short of calling it a threat to national security other than one place on their website where they quote him. See here.

Now, all that having been said, Michelle stated herself on Huckabee that "I’ve spoken to a lot of experts about this issue, and the one thing that they haven’t said is that government telling people what to do is the answer." See here.

So to those who doubted that she has Military leaders calling her up complaining about fat kids, you were right. For those who said that the Government shouldn't be involved, she agrees with you there too. Hence, the only logical thing for her to do was use her imaginary military friends to do what her advisers advised against.

Got it?

Good.

 

[jillian]

It would be cool if, instead of partisan sniping, we could actually address the root issue. Just an idea - albeit a radical one.

Fat kids become fat adults - with a massive impact on our society. The 'national security' thing is nonsense but the sentiments are not. We desperately need to educate parents - and children - about why healthy eating is important. That will be where the left and right will split. The left will want to ban shit and legislate, the right will want to educate and provide information to help people make wise choices.

This is exactly what Michelle Obama is pushing. That and asking public schools to serve healthy foods instead of fat laden crap.

Obviously this is a bad idea if one is a rightwingloon.

I'm still wondering where the rightwingnuts were when laura was talking about literacy.

And like you, I'm wondering why to these insane twits, encouraging (not mandating) good habits is a bad thing.

they must be afraid they won't be able to eat little debbie snack packs and drink cases of soda all day long anymore.

they have a particularly warped view of what "freedom" is.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Just pass another stupid Law allowing the Government to intrude in your life even more. WTG stupid Goose Stepping America.

 

[bodecea]

Just pass another stupid Law allowing the Government to intrude in your life. WTG stupid Goose Stepping America.

Have the Twinkie Control Police taken over yet?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Just pass another stupid Law allowing the Government to intrude in your life. WTG stupid Goose Stepping America.

Have the Twinkie Control Police taken over yet?

Are we now REQUIRED by the Federal Government to buy a product whether we want to or not?

 

[jillian]

Just pass another stupid Law allowing the Government to intrude in your life. WTG stupid Goose Stepping America.

Have the Twinkie Control Police taken over yet?

it's really funny... they yell and scream if they can't have cupcakes, but they think it's ok to invade people's bodies, tell people who to love, and interfere in the ability of a next of kin to make end of life decisions.

nothing wrong there.