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Mexico sues 11 gun manufacturers and suppliers.

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"MEXICO CITY — In a first, the Mexican government on Wednesday filed a lawsuit in the United States against 11 gun manufacturers and suppliers, accusing them of negligently facilitating the flow of weapons to powerful drug cartels and enabling tremendous bloodshed in Mexico.

The complaint, filed in a federal court in Massachusetts, accuses companies including Smith & Wesson and Colt of designing, marketing, distributing, and selling guns “in ways they know routinely arm the drug cartels in Mexico.”

“For decades, the government and its citizens have been victimized by a deadly flood of military-style and other particularly lethal guns that flows from the U.S. across the border,” the lawsuit reads. The flood of weaponry is “the foreseeable result of the defendants’ deliberate actions and business practices.”

Mexican officials have long blamed gun manufacturers and lax American gun regulations for playing a role in the country’s raging violence.

But officials said this is the first time a national government has filed suit against gun companies in the United States."

The companies named in the suit are Smith & Wesson; Barrett Firearms Manufacturing; Beretta U.S.A.; Beretta Holding; Century International Arms; Colt’s Manufacturing Company; Glock, Inc.; Glock Ges.m.b.H; Sturm, Ruger & Co.; and Witmer Public Safety Group and Interstate Arms, both gun suppliers.



I am not sure this law suit will go far. However, it is well know that the drug trade with Mexico is a two way street. Mexican cartels sell us drugs and we sell them guns.

The ironic part is that the illegal immigration crisis we are facing from Mexico and Central America is in large part caused by cartel violence. Violence facilitated by American weapons.

In many instances the cartels are as well armed as the Mexican police and the army. The cartels need to be stripped of these weapons.

End cartel violence and the immigration crisis on the border, not completely but largely, goes away.

If the gun manufacturers are catering to the cartels, these manufacturers need to be held responsible for their actions.
 
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"MEXICO CITY — In a first, the Mexican government on Wednesday filed a lawsuit in the United States against 11 gun manufacturers and suppliers, accusing them of negligently facilitating the flow of weapons to powerful drug cartels and enabling tremendous bloodshed in Mexico.
The complaint, filed in a federal court in Massachusetts, accuses companies including Smith & Wesson and Colt of designing, marketing, distributing, and selling guns “in ways they know routinely arm the drug cartels in Mexico.”

“For decades, the government and its citizens have been victimized by a deadly flood of military-style and other particularly lethal guns that flows from the U.S. across the border,” the lawsuit reads. The flood of weaponry is “the foreseeable result of the defendants’ deliberate actions and business practices.”

Mexican officials have long blamed gun manufacturers and lax American gun regulations for playing a role in the country’s raging violence.

But officials said this is the first time a national government has filed suit against gun companies in the United States."



I am not sure this law suit will go far. However, it is well know that the drug trade with Mexico is a two way street. Mexican cartels sell us drugs and we sell them guns.

The ironic part that the illegal immigration crisis we facing from Mexico and Central America is in large part caused by cartel violence. Violence facilitated by American weapons.

In many instances the cartels are as well armed as the Mexican police and the army. The cartels need to be stripped of these weapons.

End cartel violence and the immigration crisis on the border, not completely but largely, goes away.

If the gun manufacturers are catering to the cartels, these manufacturers need to be held responsible for their actions.
Got it, so more of the loony same?
Blame the gun and not the person holding it?
Why does it seem like all Lefties missed that day of school in the third grade when the causation principle was taught?
 

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"MEXICO CITY — In a first, the Mexican government on Wednesday filed a lawsuit in the United States against 11 gun manufacturers and suppliers, accusing them of negligently facilitating the flow of weapons to powerful drug cartels and enabling tremendous bloodshed in Mexico.

The complaint, filed in a federal court in Massachusetts, accuses companies including Smith & Wesson and Colt of designing, marketing, distributing, and selling guns “in ways they know routinely arm the drug cartels in Mexico.”

“For decades, the government and its citizens have been victimized by a deadly flood of military-style and other particularly lethal guns that flows from the U.S. across the border,” the lawsuit reads. The flood of weaponry is “the foreseeable result of the defendants’ deliberate actions and business practices.”

Mexican officials have long blamed gun manufacturers and lax American gun regulations for playing a role in the country’s raging violence.

But officials said this is the first time a national government has filed suit against gun companies in the United States."



I am not sure this law suit will go far. However, it is well know that the drug trade with Mexico is a two way street. Mexican cartels sell us drugs and we sell them guns.

The ironic part is that the illegal immigration crisis we are facing from Mexico and Central America is in large part caused by cartel violence. Violence facilitated by American weapons.

In many instances the cartels are as well armed as the Mexican police and the army. The cartels need to be stripped of these weapons.

End cartel violence and the immigration crisis on the border, not completely but largely, goes away.

If the gun manufacturers are catering to the cartels, these manufacturers need to be held responsible for their actions.


The republicans passed laws that prohibit weapons manufacturers from being sued in the United States.

That law can't apply to lawsuits in other nations.

The government of Mexico should have filed that lawsuit in Mexico where the laws of the United States don't apply.

Their lawsuit won't go far in the United States.
 
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The republicans passed laws that prohibit weapons manufacturers from being sued in the United States.

That law can't apply to lawsuits in other nations.

The government of Mexico should have filed that lawsuit in Mexico where the laws of the United States don't apply.

Their lawsuit won't go far in the United States.
The lawsuit is most likely dead as soon as it reaches SCOTUS. Cartel violence is out of control in Mexico. They are doing what they can to deal with it.

I think it is very disturbing how the gun manufacturers catered to the cartels:

From the NYT's story:

"The Mexican government said in the lawsuit that U.S. gun laws have a direct effect on violence in Mexico. When the U.S. assault weapons ban ended in 2004, the government said, gun makers “exploited the opening to vastly increase production, particularly of the military-style assault weapons favored by the drug cartels.”
 

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Mexico should add the Democrat Party to the lawsuit. Their failure to support the Great Border Wall has allowed an open flow of drugs and guns across Mexico's northern frontier.
You have any prove to support your comment?
 

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MEXICO CITY — In a first, the Mexican government on Wednesday filed a lawsuit in the United States against 11 gun manufacturers and suppliers ...
It's court-martial time. We need our guns in the U.S. Throw the fucking illegals out of court, and disbar their damned attorneys already.
 

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"MEXICO CITY — In a first, the Mexican government on Wednesday filed a lawsuit in the United States against 11 gun manufacturers and suppliers, accusing them of negligently facilitating the flow of weapons to powerful drug cartels and enabling tremendous bloodshed in Mexico.

Now all I'm waiting for is for the USA to file a lawsuit suing the government of Mexico for 22 trillion dollars for facilitating the flow of tons of drugs into this country and millions of illegals across our border!
 

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The lawsuit is most likely dead as soon as it reaches SCOTUS. Cartel violence is out of control in Mexico. They are doing what they can to deal with it.

I think it is very disturbing how the gun manufacturers catered to the cartels:

From the NYT's story:

"The Mexican government said in the lawsuit that U.S. gun laws have a direct effect on violence in Mexico. When the U.S. assault weapons ban ended in 2004, the government said, gun makers “exploited the opening to vastly increase production, particularly of the military-style assault weapons favored by the drug cartels.”
How do the US Drug Cartels compare to the Mexican Drug Cartels?
 

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Now all I'm waiting for is for the USA to file a lawsuit suing the government of Mexico for 22 trillion dollars for facilitating the flow of tons of drugs into this country and millions of illegals across our border!
Just sit on your butt and let the lawyers clock in their billable hours.
 

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The lawsuit is most likely dead as soon as it reaches SCOTUS. Cartel violence is out of control in Mexico. They are doing what they can to deal with it.

I think it is very disturbing how the gun manufacturers catered to the cartels:

From the NYT's story:

"The Mexican government said in the lawsuit that U.S. gun laws have a direct effect on violence in Mexico. When the U.S. assault weapons ban ended in 2004, the government said, gun makers “exploited the opening to vastly increase production, particularly of the military-style assault weapons favored by the drug cartels.”


The gun manufacturers weren't shipping Assault Weapons to Mexico. Of course they vastly increased PRODUCTION as there was a decade's worth of pent up demand due to Clinton draconian gun control.
 

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The lawsuit is most likely dead as soon as it reaches SCOTUS. Cartel violence is out of control in Mexico. They are doing what they can to deal with it.

I think it is very disturbing how the gun manufacturers catered to the cartels:

From the NYT's story:

"The Mexican government said in the lawsuit that U.S. gun laws have a direct effect on violence in Mexico. When the U.S. assault weapons ban ended in 2004, the government said, gun makers “exploited the opening to vastly increase production, particularly of the military-style assault weapons favored by the drug cartels.”




What a fucking joke. Typical democrat propaganda. What would a drug cartel rather buy....a "assault weapon" that costs 1000 bucks, and is semi auto only, or go down to Central America and buy whatever machineguns you want for 50 to a 100 bucks.

Hear that? Those are MACHINEGUNS. Not assault weapons bought from the USA.

Fucking idiots.


 

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The lawsuit is most likely dead as soon as it reaches SCOTUS. Cartel violence is out of control in Mexico. They are doing what they can to deal with it.

I think it is very disturbing how the gun manufacturers catered to the cartels:

From the NYT's story:

"The Mexican government said in the lawsuit that U.S. gun laws have a direct effect on violence in Mexico. When the U.S. assault weapons ban ended in 2004, the government said, gun makers “exploited the opening to vastly increase production, particularly of the military-style assault weapons favored by the drug cartels.”


You're singing to the choir.

I wish they had filed their case in Mexican courts.

Something has to be done. The manufacturers are allowed to flood the streets with their weapons with no responsibility for their actions.

Hopefully they will refile the case in a Mexican court where the United States laws don't apply.
 

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I wonder if Biden is having the DOJ fund Mexico's quixotic law suit through a slush fund?

I can't believe Mexico doesn't realize this will go no where fast. But I can see Biden and Garland using taxpayers funds to try and battle the people's 2nd Amendment rights.

The gun manufacturers should try and unveil the money trail here to the shysters working on Mexico's case.
 
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You're singing to the choir.

I wish they had filed their case in Mexican courts.

Something has to be done. The manufacturers are allowed to flood the streets with their weapons with no responsibility for their actions.

Hopefully they will refile the case in a Mexican court where the United States laws don't apply.
The problem is US courts would most likely not give a Mexican judgement against the gun manufacturers full faith and credit. The judgement would be a meaningless. Just a piece of paper.
 
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I guess you are unfamiliar with the number of times the Democrat Party voted against the Wall?
Lots of times. the wall was nothing more than an ego for trump and easily gone over, under, around or threw. Even the wind knocked panels over.
 

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Thats as fucking stupid as mexico saying "Were suing ford because drug cartels are driving around in ford cars and its irresponsible of them to let cartels drive their cars".

The mexican government should shut up and go back what their good at. Letting illegals come to this country, and using chinese parts to assemble stuff in mexico and put a "made in america" sticker on it to ship to the USA for sale. Oh and making tacos.
 

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