Methane Gas being released into the Earth Atmosphere , a bigger threat than CO2 , from human Carbon gas release.?!!

[westwall]

What's wrong. With the begin of world war 1 Germany had nothing to do at all. And world war 2 - the second part of world war 1 - was triggered from Stalin and Hitler together in the secret part of the Molotow-Ribbentrop pact when they decided to eliminate the state Poland again. Stalin was your ally.



Via mass-murder and most heavy war crimes.

Ludendorff told Franz Joseph that if he didn't attack Serbia within 24 hours then Germany would no longer honor the Treaty of mutual support, so yeah, Germany DID start WWI.

The OKW had a deal with Stalin and Russia to train their tank soldiers in Russia starting in the late 1920's. That agreement was in place right up to the Anschluss.

Then, the Germans and Russians MUTUALLY invaded Poland, so the war began with Russia on the side of Germany.

The Germans engaged in the mass murder of civilians, and bombed cities indiscriminately.

The US only bombed during the day to try and keep civilian casualties to a minimum.

YOU didn't. Lidice, Ourador, every Soviet city the German Heer attacked. All destroyed. The first two were reprisals for partisan activity, so either you are an ignorant clod, or you are lying.

Which is it?

 

[zaangalewa]

AGW religious zealots are the political agitators.

Take again a look at post #15. This diagram is able to be a mistake - everything is able to be a mistake and tommorrow we will know better - but it is no lie nor political propaganda. It shows what we all are able to see currently with our scientific eyes.

 

[westwall]

westwall ding

By the way: Why do I know now that you are both atheists?

I'm agnostic, dummy.

 

[zaangalewa]

Ludendorff told Franz Joseph that if he didn't attack Serbia within 24 hours then Germany would no longer honor the Treaty of mutual support, so yeah, Germany DID start WWI.

The OKW had a deal with Stalin and Russia to train their tank soldiers in Russia starting in the late 1920's. That agreement was in place right up to the Anschluss.

Then, the Germans and Russians MUTUALLY invaded Poland, so the war began with Russia on the side of Germany.

The Germans engaged in the mass murder of civilians, and bombed cities indiscriminately.

The US only bombed during the day to try and keep civilian casualties to a minimum.

YOU didn't. Lidice, Ourador, every Soviet city the German Heer attacked. All destroyed. The first two were reprisals for partisan activity, so either you are an ignorant clod, or you are lying.

Which is it?

I someone is a drunken bum who murders in the streets of NY then he is fortunatelly a proud US-American with an AR-15 who wan against Hitler.

World war 1+2 was by the way for me never a theme. We forget wars faster than to do them.

National anthem of Germany before Germany became officially Germany again:

 

[zaangalewa]

Ludendorff told Franz Joseph that if he didn't attack Serbia within 24 hours then Germany would no longer honor the Treaty of mutual support, so yeah, Germany DID start WWI.

The OKW had a deal with Stalin and Russia to train their tank soldiers in Russia starting in the late 1920's. That agreement was in place right up to the Anschluss.

Then, the Germans and Russians MUTUALLY invaded Poland, so the war began with Russia on the side of Germany.

The Germans engaged in the mass murder of civilians, and bombed cities indiscriminately.

The US only bombed during the day to try and keep civilian casualties to a minimum.

YOU didn't. Lidice, Ourador, every Soviet city the German Heer attacked. All destroyed. The first two were reprisals for partisan activity, so either you are an ignorant clod, or you are lying.

Which is it?

Did I ever say Germany did not do war crimes under Hitler? If you should not know: Hitler was no nice guy. As I said: He was born in the battlefields of world war 1. Also you took care that Hitler was born.

 

[zaangalewa]

I'm agnostic, dummy.

I doubt you know what an agnostic really is.

 

[westwall]

I doubt you know what an agnostics really is.

I doubt you have an IQ over 55

 

[zaangalewa]

I doubt you have an IQ over 55

What only shows that you are an intentionally ignorant idiot who not knows what he is saying.

 

[zaangalewa]

Stryder50

Do you have anything to say to this theme here or about world war 1+2 which we also could call a failure of enlightenment, education and industrialization?

 

[ding]

You will lose and die - that's inevitable.

Discouragement is the chief weapon of the enemy. St. Pio

 

[ding]

Still you have your scalp.

Yep, it's kinda hard for keyboard warriors such as yourself to take that.

 

[ding]

westwall ding

By the way: Why do I know now that you are both atheists?

Is it because you have Russian blood coursing through your veins?

 

[zaangalewa]

Discouragement is the chief weapon of the enemy. St. Pio

Weirdo.

Yep, it's kinda hard for keyboard warriors such as yourself to take that.

So what is your real problem, Sir strangeness?

Is it because you have Russian blood coursing through your veins?

- You are really as stupid as a dry piece of bread. Why should I hate Russians? Traditionally we Germans kill our enemies but we do not hate them. Putin is also fighting against Russia and the own roots of Russia by attacking Europe in the Ukraine with a stupid, senseless and criminal war. This forces Ukrainians to have to kill Russians on reason of self-defense. Otherwise it could happen the same with them what had happened with many German nations who you and your allies genocided. His disaster Putin easily could stop by leaving the Ukraine with all of his soldiers. Yesterday! And if the USA not had been so damn stupid in and after World War 1+2 it would be now much more easy to defend Europe.

 

[zaangalewa]

ding

Let it be to transform every theme to the theme "I and my atheistic fake-world full of the god who is I".

 

[Stryder50]

No. As far as I understand this process is only an activation energy. Take a match as an example. Or an avalanche.



I'm a German what you call "common sense" we call "sane human mind".



Which agricultural revolution? ... Ah . You speak about the Neolithikum 10,000 years ago. ... One moment ... First fo all you are wrong. It was not warmer. Here a scientific reliable diagram:

green line: older reconstructions
red line: current reconstruction

In the last 100 years worldwide temperature grew about 1.1° C (or K) = 2°F.

source: Nein, diese Grafik belegt nicht, dass es in den vergangenen 9.500 Jahren fast immer wärmer war als jetzt

Second: I estimate that the deposition of methane in Siberian and under the oceans took place much earlier.

This:
"This monument is to acknowledge that we know what is happening and what needs to be done."
... displays gross hubris and ignorance (BTW, fixed your spelling.)

There is an old adage;
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

As the following charts show, a temperature rise of one degree C over 170+ years is a minor blip. Not significant for worry.

These charts show, first off, that Earth has been through far greater extremes in temperature than present, and the flora and fauna survived, often thrived.

This one shows how glaciation = Ice Age can happen as quickly as your chart measures, and can also shift to interglacial just as quickly.

 

[Stryder50]

Stryder50

Do you have anything to say to this theme here or about world war 1+2 which we also could call a failure of enlightenment, education and industrialization?

In my post #115 addressed the theme of this thread.

As for WW1 and WW2, you Europeans started these fiascoes, we Yanks had to finish them. Also fund the rebuilding afterward for we received very little repayment, but a lot of grief and insult from those we saved, and defeated~then saved.

BTW, my surname is Bock.

 

[zaangalewa]

This:
"This monument is to acknowledge that we know what is happening and what needs to be done."
... displays gross hubris and ignorance (BTW, fixed your spelling.)

There is an old adage;
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

As the following charts show, a temperature rise of one degree C over 170+ years is a minor blip. Not significant for worry.

These charts show, first off, that Earth has been through far greater extremes in temperature than present, and the flora and fauna survived, often thrived.

This one shows how glaciation = Ice Age can happen as quickly as your chart measures, and can also shift to interglacial just as quickly.

What do you like to say with this diagrams if you compare this with the diagrams in post #15? That the last 150 years did not exist? And not any of your diagrams shows the speed of the changings. Here also a diagram of the last 600 million years (=since about 500 million years multi-cellular life exist on Earth, since about 200 million years mammals exist). I took it from Wikipedia. It shows nearly the same what your diagram shows but it is more clear. What you can see in a better way in this picture are different models and a very small horizontal line over the letter "N" of all of this models. This are the last 10-20 million years ... a time in which also the species homo sapiens sapiens evolved, so this is the situation of the climate on planet Earth in which we biologically fit.

And you should not forget the continents. For example: In times when only one continent existed the very most of this continent had been a desert. I fear we would need also the mass of the biosphere of all land creatures (and their biodiversity) when we compare such gigantic periods for to undertand what this all means for all possible life-forms. But this is only interesting. What we really have to know is what is going on "now" - in the time since our species and as long as it will exists - and how this will be when we continue to make everything wrong what we are able to do wrong and only to learn out of experience - for example for the experience of the ETs who will study one day why we died out.

By the way: Perhaps they will find out that people who think the CO2 concentration of a planet makes unimportant "blips" are one of the reasons to die out.

 

[zaangalewa]

As for WW1 and WW2, you Europeans started these fiascoes, we Yanks had to finish them. ...

You had absolutelly nothing to do and could be a happy nation. In this case Germany, Austria-Hungaria, the Osman empire and their allies - and the multi-national concepts of this nations - had won. You took care that the national concept and the colonial powers wan: France, Russia, the Wahabi, the British empire and others. You changed indeed the flow of world history - and you are damn proud because of this - but all of this changes exploded and are still exploding drastically. Some result of this changes which you made had been Commies, Nazies and Islamists. And one of this results also means that all Germans and their descendents are dying out - also in the USA.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Also fund the rebuilding afterward ...

You doubled your own economy with world war 1. That's why you love war. You make money with wars.

 

[zaangalewa]

... BTW, my surname is Bock.

So what? Donald Trumps surename is Trump. No German likes him. Not any name but the own deeds make a man to be what he is. Donald Trump is a high traitor of the values of the western world.