Men dressing like toddlers in movie "It Stops With Us."

What is not now, now has ever been in flux is the idea that there are no standards and anything goes.

Standards change, even if you do not wish them to.

With my employer I pushed wearing Hawaiian Style shirts as they, by my reading, fit the official dress code. My boss pushed it up to HR and HR had to admit that they did. Been wearing them ever since.

All the outside clients I work with are used to it and have come to expect it and when I show up in a polo they will often say something to me about being disappointed as they look forward to see what I might be wearing.

I also, when we used to go, was one of those folks that would show up to church in a nice pair of shorts and a polo with docksiders. This was in Okinawa Japan and Yuma Az. Really hot places, it was appropriate.
 
What is not now, now has ever been in flux is the idea that there are no standards and anything goes.

Save your cosplay for Comic Con.
I agree to some extent

But I vividly recall some pretty low standards in public when I was a kid just under 40 years ago

I remember seeing housewives with curlers in their hair wearing those ugly old “housecoat” things in the supermarket.

Plus their babies would be naked except for their diapers in the supermarket

Plus these women were constantly smoking in public.

Nothing classy about any of that
 
I officially announce my departure with the men's fashion industry. I saw a movie where men were wearing onesie's, a kind of pajamas once reserved for babies and toddlers. They were colorful, one man had drawings of comic book character.

I'm appalled if men are really dressing like this in public. It's bad enough men are no longer wearing suits and ties, but fashion has devolved the same way our society has devolved. People don't even bother to take off their pajamas when they go outdoors.
That's FREEDOM, you don't like it? You want to force everyone to be the same?
 
I agree to some extent

But I vividly recall some pretty low standards in public when I was a kid just under 40 years ago

I remember seeing housewives with curlers in their hair wearing those ugly old “housecoat” things in the supermarket.

Plus their babies would be naked except for their diapers in the supermarket

Plus these women were constantly smoking in public.

Nothing classy about any of that

I was a kid / young adult in the ‘60s and, at least at the beginning of the decade, standards in middle-class America were pretty high.

Particularly amongst the suburbanites keeping up with the neighbors.

We had one “Bohemian” family in the neighborhood but no one associated with them.
 
I was a kid / young adult in the ‘60s and, at least at the beginning of the decade, standards in middle-class America were pretty high.

Particularly amongst the suburbanites keeping up with the neighbors.

We had one “Bohemian” family in the neighborhood but no one associated with them.
I’ll have to take your word for it in the 60’s cause I was born early 80’s

But people not caring about how they looked doing grocery shopping isn’t anything new. Been around since at least when I was a kid
 
I officially announce my departure with the men's fashion industry. I saw a movie where men were wearing onesie's, a kind of pajamas once reserved for babies and toddlers. They were colorful, one man had drawings of comic book character.

I'm appalled if men are really dressing like this in public. It's bad enough men are no longer wearing suits and ties, but fashion has devolved the same way our society has devolved. People don't even bother to take off their pajamas when they go outdoors.
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I guess we just have a different idea of "appropriate". I wear khakis or jeans and most of the time a Hawaiian style shirt or maybe a polo for professional and social activities. If it is spring/summer/fall I wear shorts for social activities and pants for work.



What is and is not appropriate attire is forever in flux, to hold onto the norms from 30 years ago just bring undo attention upon yourself.
What's that? You wear khaki Dockers and a facemask?
Where have I seen that before? Hmm..
 
The vast majority of men are perfectly fine not having to wear a hat and tie every time they venture outside.

Have ever seen large crowd pics of men from the 1930s or so? They all look like they're dressed exactly the same. Zero individuality.
At least they were all thin.
 
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