Melted Steel.

[Stryder50]

FWIW & FYI ...
Modern aircraft construction using 'composites'(Plastics) is mostly of three main types;
1) Carbon-fiber ~ a weave of carbon threads impregnated with resins~plastics (mostly petroleum based chemicals) which after being cut and formed upon a mold, are bagged for a vacuum sealed pressure compression, then heated in an autoclave which provides further compression pressure (more vacuum) along with heat to melt and cure/set the "plastic".

These tend to be used mostly for structural framing uses such as ribs, stringers, etc. as well as the basic outer skin panels. Areas where some strength and stress resistance is wanted.

2) Fiber-glass ~ mostly used for interior, low stress/strength applications such as floors, walls, ceilings, and storage bins. Also some of the seating frame components. Another case of a plastic reinforced for frequent use and durability, along with light weight.

3) Kevlar ~ this is usually found on the undersides of the aircraft. Used in places such as landing gear doors and wheel well areas, as well as the underside flaps and control surfaces, and other "skin" applications to the underside of the aircraft. Intent here is the impact resistance provides added protection from FOD= Foreign Object Debris/Damage.

Net result is about 80-90 percent of a modern airliner is mostly "plastic", in various forms and structure/content.

In an example for the 9/11 scenario, take a scale model kit of a modern airliner aircraft and assemble it. Then insert a couple of teaspoons to tablespoons(depending on scale and size) of kerosene (very similar chemically to jet fuel) into your model of an airliner and set such on fire to see how well and hot it burns. Use adult care & PPE around flammables of course.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

A couple factors for consideration.
1) As a former aircraft parts maker, most of the interior, skin and structural componets of those jets were composite materials, a.k.a. plastics~petroleum based synthetics. In other words, added fuel to the fires, on top of many synthetics~plastics already inside those buildings to provide added fuel for the fires.

2) One doesn't need melted steel for those buildings to collapse. Most of the structural steel was an exterior lattice framework, a lace-net box of sorts. The slab floors are anchored to the interior surfaces of the outer steel lattice framework~"skin".

Once the steel was heated enough to become soft and plyable, only slight flexing~bowing outward under weight and stress load would be enough to get the 'first' floor to pop lose and fall down onto the next lower floor. From then on you'll get a domino effect as more floors pancake downward upon each other and the outer steel frame work begins to peel away like a banana skin.

Net result would be collapsed towers. The fires hot enough to soften the steel to the point of lossing it's firmness and strength~weight/load bearing capacity.

FWIW - earlier attempt about 1993(?) with a truck bomb in the basement, meant to collapse key support beams with intent to get one tower tilt over and collapse into the other. Truck was parked one or two stalls over from where it should have been to make the blast work as planned. Again, another form of Islamic Jihad attack on the USA.

Nice fantasy troll but your babble has been debunked by witnesses there at the scene,thousands of architects and engineers,and demolition experts as well.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

FWIW & FYI ...
Modern aircraft construction using 'composites'(Plastics) is mostly of three main types;
1) Carbon-fiber ~ a weave of carbon threads impregnated with resins~plastics (mostly petroleum based chemicals) which after being cut and formed upon a mold, are bagged for a vacuum sealed pressure compression, then heated in an autoclave which provides further compression pressure (more vacuum) along with heat to melt and cure/set the "plastic".

These tend to be used mostly for structural framing uses such as ribs, stringers, etc. as well as the basic outer skin panels. Areas where some strength and stress resistance is wanted.

2) Fiber-glass ~ mostly used for interior, low stress/strength applications such as floors, walls, ceilings, and storage bins. Also some of the seating frame components. Another case of a plastic reinforced for frequent use and durability, along with light weight.

3) Kevlar ~ this is usually found on the undersides of the aircraft. Used in places such as landing gear doors and wheel well areas, as well as the underside flaps and control surfaces, and other "skin" applications to the underside of the aircraft. Intent here is the impact resistance provides added protection from FOD= Foreign Object Debris/Damage.

Net result is about 80-90 percent of a modern airliner is mostly "plastic", in various forms and structure/content.

In an example for the 9/11 scenario, take a scale model kit of a modern airliner aircraft and assemble it. Then insert a couple of teaspoons to tablespoons(depending on scale and size) of kerosene (very similar chemically to jet fuel) into your model of an airliner and set such on fire to see how well and hot it burns. Use adult care & PPE around flammables of course.

Give it up with you babble troll,you just got owned by me in my previous post.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

....the buildings were demolished ......what does it matter if the metal melted or not?

Well, some people claim that no steel had melted. It's interesting watching them react to being shown otherwise.

No one ever clasimed that. No one saw any steel being melted ON 911 they found melted steel much later during the cleanup

Hmm, let's see if we can't get you back on solid ground.

I said: "Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that even handguns had been found that had melted down into blobs in some burned out cars that were in the area.

"And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too."

And then you said, "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And now you're telling me that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. Well you can click onto the link below and go to the 18:25 mark and hear him for yourself saying this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

9/11 Nobody Knows Update 3 - Bing video

I never said any of those things.

Here's what you said:

"No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

Are you going to now claim that you don't exist either?

Tell me something. How do you reconcile what you've said with what Gerry Fornino said? Do you call him inept, or do you try to make a case for your silly opinion that he doesn't exist?



Perhaps you're getting ready to claim that you don't exist, and

They did not see it on 911 they saw some after the fact and you mis quoted me.

I have proven you a liar on all of these issues.

No one saw MELTING of steel on that day and you stated they had.

Nor did I ever say or give an opinion rhat this guy does not exist.

Stop the lies you fool. I have PRPOVEN you coewardly little liar beyond question your fucking games are not working.

I didn't say that anyone saw steel melting on that day. You just need for me to have said it so that you don't come off looking like a liar after clearly stating that " "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And thanks to your failing memory, you can't even recall ignoring Gerry Fornino's observations on the basis of your suspicion that he may not exist. You didn't google his name because you didn't want to address his observations.

Liar you did say that repeatedly and tried to pass some guys substandatrtd english as proof and you are lying about what I said,

I expressed no opinion whatsoeevr about the guy you are obsessed with,,

You are a decietful liar spreading bullshit all over the place and that is proven fact

You better go get somebody. You're failing left and right; specifically your recent unwillingness to find out if Gerry Fornino existed. But as you've learned here today, he exists, and he said what he said. So why don't you admit that you didn't google his name because it would prove that someone saw a handgun that had melted down into a blob?

Now, how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun found in a car down into the area down into a blob?

And how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun down into a blob?

The nazi is a shill from Langley who seeks attention so badly he talks to himself addressing someone that has him on ignore in the first person,the dude is scary,unstable obviously and belongs in a straight jacket.lol

 

[Stryder50]

A couple factors for consideration.
1) As a former aircraft parts maker, most of the interior, skin and structural componets of those jets were composite materials, a.k.a. plastics~petroleum based synthetics. In other words, added fuel to the fires, on top of many synthetics~plastics already inside those buildings to provide added fuel for the fires.

2) One doesn't need melted steel for those buildings to collapse. Most of the structural steel was an exterior lattice framework, a lace-net box of sorts. The slab floors are anchored to the interior surfaces of the outer steel lattice framework~"skin".

Once the steel was heated enough to become soft and plyable, only slight flexing~bowing outward under weight and stress load would be enough to get the 'first' floor to pop lose and fall down onto the next lower floor. From then on you'll get a domino effect as more floors pancake downward upon each other and the outer steel frame work begins to peel away like a banana skin.

Net result would be collapsed towers. The fires hot enough to soften the steel to the point of lossing it's firmness and strength~weight/load bearing capacity.

FWIW - earlier attempt about 1993(?) with a truck bomb in the basement, meant to collapse key support beams with intent to get one tower tilt over and collapse into the other. Truck was parked one or two stalls over from where it should have been to make the blast work as planned. Again, another form of Islamic Jihad attack on the USA.

Nice fantasy troll but your babble has been debunked by witnesses there at the scene,thousands of architects and engineers,and demolition experts as well.

Be that so, present evidence and documentation. Beginning with info on your profile and bona fides ...

 

[Stryder50]

A couple factors for consideration.
1) As a former aircraft parts maker, most of the interior, skin and structural componets of those jets were composite materials, a.k.a. plastics~petroleum based synthetics. In other words, added fuel to the fires, on top of many synthetics~plastics already inside those buildings to provide added fuel for the fires.

2) One doesn't need melted steel for those buildings to collapse. Most of the structural steel was an exterior lattice framework, a lace-net box of sorts. The slab floors are anchored to the interior surfaces of the outer steel lattice framework~"skin".

Once the steel was heated enough to become soft and plyable, only slight flexing~bowing outward under weight and stress load would be enough to get the 'first' floor to pop lose and fall down onto the next lower floor. From then on you'll get a domino effect as more floors pancake downward upon each other and the outer steel frame work begins to peel away like a banana skin.

Net result would be collapsed towers. The fires hot enough to soften the steel to the point of lossing it's firmness and strength~weight/load bearing capacity.

FWIW - earlier attempt about 1993(?) with a truck bomb in the basement, meant to collapse key support beams with intent to get one tower tilt over and collapse into the other. Truck was parked one or two stalls over from where it should have been to make the blast work as planned. Again, another form of Islamic Jihad attack on the USA.

Nice fantasy troll but your babble has been debunked by witnesses there at the scene,thousands of architects and engineers,and demolition experts as well.

Again, see previous on providing documentation and evidence rather than your politically partisan biased personal opinion.

 

[Stryder50]

FWIW & FYI ...
Modern aircraft construction using 'composites'(Plastics) is mostly of three main types;
1) Carbon-fiber ~ a weave of carbon threads impregnated with resins~plastics (mostly petroleum based chemicals) which after being cut and formed upon a mold, are bagged for a vacuum sealed pressure compression, then heated in an autoclave which provides further compression pressure (more vacuum) along with heat to melt and cure/set the "plastic".

These tend to be used mostly for structural framing uses such as ribs, stringers, etc. as well as the basic outer skin panels. Areas where some strength and stress resistance is wanted.

2) Fiber-glass ~ mostly used for interior, low stress/strength applications such as floors, walls, ceilings, and storage bins. Also some of the seating frame components. Another case of a plastic reinforced for frequent use and durability, along with light weight.

3) Kevlar ~ this is usually found on the undersides of the aircraft. Used in places such as landing gear doors and wheel well areas, as well as the underside flaps and control surfaces, and other "skin" applications to the underside of the aircraft. Intent here is the impact resistance provides added protection from FOD= Foreign Object Debris/Damage.

Net result is about 80-90 percent of a modern airliner is mostly "plastic", in various forms and structure/content.

In an example for the 9/11 scenario, take a scale model kit of a modern airliner aircraft and assemble it. Then insert a couple of teaspoons to tablespoons(depending on scale and size) of kerosene (very similar chemically to jet fuel) into your model of an airliner and set such on fire to see how well and hot it burns. Use adult care & PPE around flammables of course.

Give it up with you babble troll,you just got owned by me in my previous post.

Strongly doubt and dispute your troll accusation.

If such applies to anyone it would be you.

You own nothing other than your delusions on reality.

 

[Stryder50]

....the buildings were demolished ......what does it matter if the metal melted or not?

Well, some people claim that no steel had melted. It's interesting watching them react to being shown otherwise.

No one ever clasimed that. No one saw any steel being melted ON 911 they found melted steel much later during the cleanup

Hmm, let's see if we can't get you back on solid ground.

I said: "Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that even handguns had been found that had melted down into blobs in some burned out cars that were in the area.

"And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too."

And then you said, "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And now you're telling me that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. Well you can click onto the link below and go to the 18:25 mark and hear him for yourself saying this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

9/11 Nobody Knows Update 3 - Bing video

I never said any of those things.

Here's what you said:

"No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

Are you going to now claim that you don't exist either?

Tell me something. How do you reconcile what you've said with what Gerry Fornino said? Do you call him inept, or do you try to make a case for your silly opinion that he doesn't exist?



Perhaps you're getting ready to claim that you don't exist, and

They did not see it on 911 they saw some after the fact and you mis quoted me.

I have proven you a liar on all of these issues.

No one saw MELTING of steel on that day and you stated they had.

Nor did I ever say or give an opinion rhat this guy does not exist.

Stop the lies you fool. I have PRPOVEN you coewardly little liar beyond question your fucking games are not working.

I didn't say that anyone saw steel melting on that day. You just need for me to have said it so that you don't come off looking like a liar after clearly stating that " "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And thanks to your failing memory, you can't even recall ignoring Gerry Fornino's observations on the basis of your suspicion that he may not exist. You didn't google his name because you didn't want to address his observations.

Liar you did say that repeatedly and tried to pass some guys substandatrtd english as proof and you are lying about what I said,

I expressed no opinion whatsoeevr about the guy you are obsessed with,,

You are a decietful liar spreading bullshit all over the place and that is proven fact

You better go get somebody. You're failing left and right; specifically your recent unwillingness to find out if Gerry Fornino existed. But as you've learned here today, he exists, and he said what he said. So why don't you admit that you didn't google his name because it would prove that someone saw a handgun that had melted down into a blob?

Now, how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun found in a car down into the area down into a blob?

And how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun down into a blob?

The nazi is a shill from Langley who seeks attention so badly he talks to himself addressing someone that has him on ignore in the first person,the dude is scary,unstable obviously and belongs in a straight jacket.lol

Interesting pile of garbage.
Please document and authenticate further, if you can.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

....the buildings were demolished ......what does it matter if the metal melted or not?

Well, some people claim that no steel had melted. It's interesting watching them react to being shown otherwise.

No one ever clasimed that. No one saw any steel being melted ON 911 they found melted steel much later during the cleanup

Hmm, let's see if we can't get you back on solid ground.

I said: "Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that even handguns had been found that had melted down into blobs in some burned out cars that were in the area.

"And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too."

And then you said, "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And now you're telling me that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. Well you can click onto the link below and go to the 18:25 mark and hear him for yourself saying this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

9/11 Nobody Knows Update 3 - Bing video

I never said any of those things.

Here's what you said:

"No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

Are you going to now claim that you don't exist either?

Tell me something. How do you reconcile what you've said with what Gerry Fornino said? Do you call him inept, or do you try to make a case for your silly opinion that he doesn't exist?



Perhaps you're getting ready to claim that you don't exist, and

They did not see it on 911 they saw some after the fact and you mis quoted me.

I have proven you a liar on all of these issues.

No one saw MELTING of steel on that day and you stated they had.

Nor did I ever say or give an opinion rhat this guy does not exist.

Stop the lies you fool. I have PRPOVEN you coewardly little liar beyond question your fucking games are not working.

I didn't say that anyone saw steel melting on that day. You just need for me to have said it so that you don't come off looking like a liar after clearly stating that " "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And thanks to your failing memory, you can't even recall ignoring Gerry Fornino's observations on the basis of your suspicion that he may not exist. You didn't google his name because you didn't want to address his observations.

Liar you did say that repeatedly and tried to pass some guys substandatrtd english as proof and you are lying about what I said,

I expressed no opinion whatsoeevr about the guy you are obsessed with,,

You are a decietful liar spreading bullshit all over the place and that is proven fact

You better go get somebody. You're failing left and right; specifically your recent unwillingness to find out if Gerry Fornino existed. But as you've learned here today, he exists, and he said what he said. So why don't you admit that you didn't google his name because it would prove that someone saw a handgun that had melted down into a blob?

Now, how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun found in a car down into the area down into a blob?

And how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun down into a blob?

The nazi is a shill from Langley who seeks attention so badly he talks to himself addressing someone that has him on ignore in the first person,the dude is scary,unstable obviously and belongs in a straight jacket.lol

Interesting pile of garbage.
Please document and authenticate further, if you can.

The only one that has presented garbage is you,read the book debunking the debunking an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory,nobody has ever debunked it,not nist,not congress,nobody. That book shreads to pieces all the garbage lies you been posting just as it does that muslins and Bin laden were behind the attacks.

 

[Soupnazi630]

A couple factors for consideration.
1) As a former aircraft parts maker, most of the interior, skin and structural componets of those jets were composite materials, a.k.a. plastics~petroleum based synthetics. In other words, added fuel to the fires, on top of many synthetics~plastics already inside those buildings to provide added fuel for the fires.

2) One doesn't need melted steel for those buildings to collapse. Most of the structural steel was an exterior lattice framework, a lace-net box of sorts. The slab floors are anchored to the interior surfaces of the outer steel lattice framework~"skin".

Once the steel was heated enough to become soft and plyable, only slight flexing~bowing outward under weight and stress load would be enough to get the 'first' floor to pop lose and fall down onto the next lower floor. From then on you'll get a domino effect as more floors pancake downward upon each other and the outer steel frame work begins to peel away like a banana skin.

Net result would be collapsed towers. The fires hot enough to soften the steel to the point of lossing it's firmness and strength~weight/load bearing capacity.

FWIW - earlier attempt about 1993(?) with a truck bomb in the basement, meant to collapse key support beams with intent to get one tower tilt over and collapse into the other. Truck was parked one or two stalls over from where it should have been to make the blast work as planned. Again, another form of Islamic Jihad attack on the USA.

Nice fantasy troll but your babble has been debunked by witnesses there at the scene,thousands of architects and engineers,and demolition experts as well.

Wrong troll.

What has been debunked is your fictional claim. No witnesses at trhe scene supprt your fucking stupid fiction and there are no such thousands of architects or engineers.

 

[Soupnazi630]

....the buildings were demolished ......what does it matter if the metal melted or not?

Well, some people claim that no steel had melted. It's interesting watching them react to being shown otherwise.

No one ever clasimed that. No one saw any steel being melted ON 911 they found melted steel much later during the cleanup

Hmm, let's see if we can't get you back on solid ground.

I said: "Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that even handguns had been found that had melted down into blobs in some burned out cars that were in the area.

"And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too."

And then you said, "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And now you're telling me that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. Well you can click onto the link below and go to the 18:25 mark and hear him for yourself saying this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

9/11 Nobody Knows Update 3 - Bing video

I never said any of those things.

Here's what you said:

"No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

Are you going to now claim that you don't exist either?

Tell me something. How do you reconcile what you've said with what Gerry Fornino said? Do you call him inept, or do you try to make a case for your silly opinion that he doesn't exist?



Perhaps you're getting ready to claim that you don't exist, and

They did not see it on 911 they saw some after the fact and you mis quoted me.

I have proven you a liar on all of these issues.

No one saw MELTING of steel on that day and you stated they had.

Nor did I ever say or give an opinion rhat this guy does not exist.

Stop the lies you fool. I have PRPOVEN you coewardly little liar beyond question your fucking games are not working.

I didn't say that anyone saw steel melting on that day. You just need for me to have said it so that you don't come off looking like a liar after clearly stating that " "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And thanks to your failing memory, you can't even recall ignoring Gerry Fornino's observations on the basis of your suspicion that he may not exist. You didn't google his name because you didn't want to address his observations.

Liar you did say that repeatedly and tried to pass some guys substandatrtd english as proof and you are lying about what I said,

I expressed no opinion whatsoeevr about the guy you are obsessed with,,

You are a decietful liar spreading bullshit all over the place and that is proven fact

You better go get somebody. You're failing left and right; specifically your recent unwillingness to find out if Gerry Fornino existed. But as you've learned here today, he exists, and he said what he said. So why don't you admit that you didn't google his name because it would prove that someone saw a handgun that had melted down into a blob?

Now, how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun found in a car down into the area down into a blob?

And how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun down into a blob?

The nazi is a shill from Langley who seeks attention so badly he talks to himself addressing someone that has him on ignore in the first person,the dude is scary,unstable obviously and belongs in a straight jacket.lol

Interesting pile of garbage.
Please document and authenticate further, if you can.

The only one that has presented garbage is you,read the book debunking the debunking an answer to popular mechanics and other defenders of the official conspiracy theory,nobody has ever debunked it,not nist,not congress,nobody. That book shreads to pieces all the garbage lies you been posting just as it does that muslins and Bin laden were behind the attacks.

The book deebunking the debunking was proven to be fictional crap you uneducated fucking troll

 

[Soupnazi630]

....the buildings were demolished ......what does it matter if the metal melted or not?

Well, some people claim that no steel had melted. It's interesting watching them react to being shown otherwise.

No one ever clasimed that. No one saw any steel being melted ON 911 they found melted steel much later during the cleanup

Hmm, let's see if we can't get you back on solid ground.

I said: "Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that even handguns had been found that had melted down into blobs in some burned out cars that were in the area.

"And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too."

And then you said, "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And now you're telling me that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. Well you can click onto the link below and go to the 18:25 mark and hear him for yourself saying this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

9/11 Nobody Knows Update 3 - Bing video

I never said any of those things.

Here's what you said:

"No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

Are you going to now claim that you don't exist either?

Tell me something. How do you reconcile what you've said with what Gerry Fornino said? Do you call him inept, or do you try to make a case for your silly opinion that he doesn't exist?



Perhaps you're getting ready to claim that you don't exist, and

They did not see it on 911 they saw some after the fact and you mis quoted me.

I have proven you a liar on all of these issues.

No one saw MELTING of steel on that day and you stated they had.

Nor did I ever say or give an opinion rhat this guy does not exist.

Stop the lies you fool. I have PRPOVEN you coewardly little liar beyond question your fucking games are not working.

I didn't say that anyone saw steel melting on that day. You just need for me to have said it so that you don't come off looking like a liar after clearly stating that " "No one saw any of that or any melted steel."

And thanks to your failing memory, you can't even recall ignoring Gerry Fornino's observations on the basis of your suspicion that he may not exist. You didn't google his name because you didn't want to address his observations.

Liar you did say that repeatedly and tried to pass some guys substandatrtd english as proof and you are lying about what I said,

I expressed no opinion whatsoeevr about the guy you are obsessed with,,

You are a decietful liar spreading bullshit all over the place and that is proven fact

You better go get somebody. You're failing left and right; specifically your recent unwillingness to find out if Gerry Fornino existed. But as you've learned here today, he exists, and he said what he said. So why don't you admit that you didn't google his name because it would prove that someone saw a handgun that had melted down into a blob?

Now, how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun found in a car down into the area down into a blob?

And how hot would it have to be to melt a handgun down into a blob?

The nazi is a shill from Langley who seeks attention so badly he talks to himself addressing someone that has him on ignore in the first person,the dude is scary,unstable obviously and belongs in a straight jacket.lol

The only shill here is you

You are my bitch again and have been proven a drooling fucking fool