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The power of nuclear capabilities is not in its use or prediction but rather in its implication. The Russian bear knows this more than anyone else.Ex-Russian president names condition for using nukes
Russia would only use nuclear weapons if the country’s very existence was threatened, Dmitry Medvedev sayswww.rt.com
As has been predicted, this is affirming the fact on Russia's resolve to not yield and be conquered.
But it's not really an explanation on when Russia will find it necessary.
Can anybody suggest what that would be?
We can all say that and feel self righteous but the treaty we signed with the USSR when they agreed to break up and gice sovereignty to their satélite nations was that NATO wouldn’t move 1 inch East. We broke that treaty long ago and have continued to do so over and over. Whether we think they should or not Russia sees NATO as a threat. That’s why he invaded. So WE “the west” Bear responsibility in this as wellIf Russia’s existence is threatened. It is because of the actions of their own leaders. Nobody forced them to invade Ukraine. Nobody forced them to default on their loans. That was all them.
Boo fucking hoo sell out. No one. And I mean NO ONE; forced NATO into throwing its weight behind a non member. Fuck off, die slow. If it has to be my kid, or yours who has to die for this war you cheerlead..? I hope it's not mine. Nice flag cuck...If Russia’s existence is threatened. It is because of the actions of their own leaders. Nobody forced them to invade Ukraine. Nobody forced them to default on their loans. That was all them.
We can all say that and feel self righteous but the treaty we signed with the USSR when they agreed to break up and gice sovereignty to their satélite nations was that NATO wouldn’t move 1 inch East. We broke that treaty long ago and have continued to do so over and over. Whether we think they should or not Russia sees NATO as a threat. That’s why he invaded. So WE “the west” Bear responsibility in this as well
SOME NATO nations threw their power behind a nation unjustly and illegally invaded by a neighbor. May I remind you that this is the SECOND TIME Russia has invaded Ukraine to expropriate parts of Ukraine? Oh, Russia has also invaded Georgia and stolen part of that country as well and invaded Chechnya more than once, but at least it refrained from stealing territory there. If other nations had thrown their weight against Germany when it invaded and conquered Chechloslovakia, there is a very good chance WWII wouldn’t have happened and over twenty five million European lives would have been saved.Boo fucking hoo sell out. No one. And I mean NO ONE; forced NATO into throwing its weight behind a non member. Fuck off, die slow. If it has to be my kid, or yours who has to die for this war you cheerlead..? I hope it's not mine. Nice flag cuck...
Its an agreement between NATO and Russia. The US doesnt get to run NATO even though we pay for it all.We can all say that and feel self righteous but the treaty we signed with the USSR when they agreed to break up and gice sovereignty to their satélite nations was that NATO wouldn’t move 1 inch East.
What treaty? How many votes did it get in the Senate?
Its an agreement between NATO and Russia. The US doesnt get to run NATO even though we pay for it all.
Sec Baker worked the agreement and conformed by then NATO Secretary General in a May 17 speech.
Theres really no reason to have expanded NATO then and there definitely hasn’t been one for decades. We have fostered this adversarial relationship with Russia but for the life of me I can’t understand how it benefits us.
.. fully...... the treaty we signed with the USSR when they agreed to break up and gice sovereignty to their satélite nations was that NATO wouldn’t move 1 inch East. We broke that treaty long ago and have continued to do so over and over. Whether we think they should or not Russia sees NATO as a threat. That’s why he invaded. So WE “the west” Bear responsibility in thisas well
This generation calls it "expansion" but the next generation will recognize it as "world domination".We have fostered this adversarial relationship with Russia but for the life of me I can’t understand how it benefits us.
I know this is a Clean Debate Zone but my open hand is itching. How do you get the idea that the US isn't "running" NATO? Each one of the NATO member states is a mere lackey and under threat of Washington's punishment on a whim.Its an agreement between NATO and Russia. The US doesnt get to run NATO even though we pay for it all.
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Well said!Boo fucking hoo sell out. No one. And I mean NO ONE; forced NATO into throwing its weight behind a non member. Fuck off, die slow. If it has to be my kid, or yours who has to die for this war you cheerlead..? I hope it's not mine. Nice flag cuck...
Boo fucking hoo sell out. No one. And I mean NO ONE; forced NATO into throwing its weight behind a non member. Fuck off, die slow. If it has to be my kid, or yours who has to die for this war you cheerlead..? I hope it's not mine. Nice flag cuck...
Its an agreement between NATO and Russia. The US doesnt get to run NATO even though we pay for it all.
Sec Baker worked the agreement and conformed by then NATO Secretary General in a May 17 speech.
Theres really no reason to have expanded NATO then and there definitely hasn’t been one for decades. We have fostered this adversarial relationship with Russia but for the life of me I can’t understand how it benefits us.
Oh bullshit.
NATO had become little more than a coffee club. US troops in Europe were at an all time low. Training was reduced. Trump had us drawing down even more.
But let’s look at the reality. Russia invaded Georgia. And how many others who were old Soviet Block and started to look out at the world and wanted freedom and opportunity?
Ukraine wasn’t joining NATO. Ukraine wanted to join the EU. And having Ukraine aligned with Europe instead of Moscow was unacceptable.
NATO started to get serious about combined training and all that crap after Russia invaded Ukraine. Not before.
So save the propaganda for someone who hasn’t watched the news in the last fifteen years.
Oh bullshit.Oh bullshit.
NATO had become little more than a coffee club. US troops in Europe were at an all time low. Training was reduced. Trump had us drawing down even more.
But let’s look at the reality. Russia invaded Georgia. And how many others who were old Soviet Block and started to look out at the world and wanted freedom and opportunity?
Ukraine wasn’t joining NATO. Ukraine wanted to join the EU. And having Ukraine aligned with Europe instead of Moscow was unacceptable.
NATO started to get serious about combined training and all that crap after Russia invaded Ukraine. Not before.
So save the propaganda for someone who hasn’t watched the news in the last fifteen years.
Oh bullshit.
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Why? Seriously. What exactly is NATO's purpose now that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact no longer exist?Screw them. They start throwing nukes, then eradicate them, period. They can stick to extorting tiny states away from eastern Europe. NATO should be running around offering membership to some 25 states on Russia's borders as a response to these idiot threats.
