Medical Marijuana now a reality in Pennsylvania

[TyroneSlothrop]

My God is the kind of God one can smoke a joint with

Your god places no value in Morality and therefore has no value in my mind.

You have a mind ? My God does not approve of shooting and napalming folks ..like yours ...

 

[Anathema]

You have a mind ? My God does not approve of shooting and napalming folks ..like yours ...

I most definitely have a mind. The Divine sees nothing wrong with people dying so long as the right people are dying.

 

[aris2chat]

Cannabis has been medicine for more than 5000 yrs. How is that wrong? Most meds have side effects which you need more rx meds, etc.

Simply because its natural doesn't make it good or right to use it. The side effects are why I don't use most prescription drugs either.
You remember that. Is this a personal recollection?

I know someone what has a bleeding colon that her rx for symptoms made her hair fall out. CBD not only is healing her colon but no more hair loss or other side effects.

My dather had terminal Cancer and was offered THC-based meds. I have Glaucoma and Epileptic issues for which THC meds can be prescribed. Neither of us would choose THC-based therapies. There are preferable options. For me they include blindness abd seizures. For him it was debilitating pain.

Some might use it to relax, better than alcohol is on your body and mind. Much better for you than a handful of pills that will only bring dependency and spikes of pain. Warning, don't operate machinery, not conducive for work place.

Alcohol and those pills should be banned as well. ANY substance that creares an altered state of mind should be banned.

It was right till 1940. Now CDC is saying it is right as a medicine again for many conditions. FDA lowered the classification. Why is that wrong?

It was never tight. The Government is not the arbiter of Right and Wrong... the Divinity is.

God created cannabis and man has used it for 5000 yrs to treat different ailments. I remember leaves being give to women in labor to chew. It was used to reduce pain for stitches or minor surgery by wise women.

It has been a medicine around the world for far longer than chemical made prescriptions that cost an arm and a leg.

If you don't want the high, juice it or make tea or choose strains with no THC in them. Founding fathers used it, why should it be wrong now?

There are hundreds of uses for the plant other than THC. Fast growing, renewable source for clothing, food, paper beside medicine.

Gods pharmacy

Why is that wrong?

You remember women given marijuana to chew. Is this a personal recollection?

Where I grew up it was. There is no high to the leaves.
It was a wild plant that we nick named goat weed. It was a bit like catnip to them.

Almost every culture used it for medicine at some time. Some never stopped.

 

[aris2chat]

God created cannabis and man has used it for 5000 yrs to treat different ailments. I remember leaves being give to women in labor to chew. It was used to reduce pain for stitches or minor surgery by wise women.

It has been a medicine around the world for far longer than chemical made prescriptions that cost an arm and a leg.

If you don't want the high, juice it or make tea or choose strains with no THC in them. Founding fathers used it, why should it be wrong now?

There are hundreds of uses for the plant other than THC. Fast growing, renewable source for clothing, food, paper beside medicine.

Gods pharmacy

Why is that wrong?

Are you sure that Cannabis plant wasn't simply another "Apple tree"? A test from the Divine to see whether people would do the Right thing or the fun/easy thing.

You make the mistake of believing anything the Divine created cannot be bad. Some of us understand better.

For all people around the world and through time, even people who never knew of the western "god"???

Really???

If it did not work, it would not have been used as medicine for 5000 yrs

Knowledge is a gift, not a curse. Bring on the apples!

 

[aris2chat]

sorry but you said....."the third "prescription drugs" should only be available in hospitals under the direct supervision of medical personnel......you want to explain why you dont have to follow those rules?..

My apologies but I felt it obvious that we were speaking about prescriptions for medications with mind altering side effects. Thankfully, the dose of Keppra I take does not have that effect; but that is why I won't take the suggested higher dosage.

no it wasnt obvious.....i said prescription drugs,not putting any conditions on them.....and you said what you said also without putting any conditions on them....so we cleared that up.....my wife is also an Epileptic and considered part of the percentage who are uncontrolled.....she has done every drug out there and none have stopped her seizures,but have made them much less intense and much more infrequent....but they all have had side effects that just present a new problem she and the Neurologist have to deal with...she has a tremor in her right hand that NONE of the drugs have stopped or even slowed down......pot stops it completely.....her Neurologist says this is what they are trying to find out...why does pot calm epilepsy down?.....he said he has 4-5 patients who claim the same thing.....maybe it dont work with all Epileptics,but it does help a lot of others....

A blessing for your wife to have found the right thing for her

It is even used on children with epilepsy.

 

[aris2chat]

why?.....she has maybe 3-4 Petite Mall Seizures a year and other wise can do anything she wants except drive.....with your attitude i am surprised you havent already shot yourself....to want to just end it instead of trying something that has worked for many people is a pretty defeatist attitude...

Why? Because it is my belief that the damage that treatment is doing to her Soul far outweighs any benefit it brings to her body.

I went 27 years without having to take medication for my seizure issues (ages 11 to 38). I then had 2 Petite seizures in a 4 day period after not having any in 34 years.

They started me on a massive dose on meds in the hospital. It left me basically comatose. I was told not to drive for 6 months and put on a minimal daily dosage. I started driving again three weeks later. Due to my stress levels they've tried to upgrade my dosage 3 times in the last 30 months. I've declined each time. I remember what it was like being on Phenobarbital as a kid. I will never do that again. I'd rather die.

cannabis does not harm the "soul", but it can heal the mind and broaden ones perspective.

Soul? when did god say don't touch?

“Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food."

 

[Jarlaxle]

In your world ...in mine we groove ....

Gonna be tough to groove with a couple rounds of 5.56mm NATO in your chest if people like me ever end up in charge.

The only place you might end up is the east wing oif the Shady Acres Insane Asylum.

I'll see your 5.56 NATO and raise you a .22--250 Remington.

 

[Jarlaxle]

My wife is also an Epileptic and considered part of the percentage who are uncontrolled.....she has done every drug out there and none have stopped her seizures,but have made them much less intense and much more infrequent....but they all have had side effects that just present a new problem she and the Neurologist have to deal with...she has a tremor in her right hand that NONE of the drugs have stopped or even slowed down......pot stops it completely.....her Neurologist says this is what they are trying to find out...why does pot calm epilepsy down?.....he said he has 4-5 patients who claim the same thing.....maybe it dont work with all Epileptics,but it does help a lot of others....

You and your wife have my sympathies for what she deals with. I will simply say this, and understand tbis is not a suggestion but rather my personal opinion.....

In her situation I would have long since eaten a bullet.

The sooner the better, psycho boy!

 

[Anathema]

For all people around the world and through time, even people who never knew of the western "god"???

The Divine is not Eastern or Western. Definitely not Abrahamic in nature. You assume far too much in your responses.

The purpose of the Divine is to test EVERY Soul until it passes, fails utterly or is sent back to try agsin.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Damage to her soul? How do you figure? Do you think using drugs is a mortal sin?

I don't believe in mortal sins. Im not Catholic. I do believe that ANYTHING a person does or uses which puts them in a position of gaving an altered or reduced mebtal state and thereby unable to make immediate, life-altering decisions places a black mark on the Soul. A mark that wi be read by the Divine when your soul is judged at the time of your death.

That also applies to...
chocolate.
good sex.
Good food.
Running a marathon.
martial arts.
riding a dirt bike in a hare scramble.
being up 20 hours after not enough sleep.

 

[Katzndogz]

why?.....she has maybe 3-4 Petite Mall Seizures a year and other wise can do anything she wants except drive.....with your attitude i am surprised you havent already shot yourself....to want to just end it instead of trying something that has worked for many people is a pretty defeatist attitude...

Why? Because it is my belief that the damage that treatment is doing to her Soul far outweighs any benefit it brings to her body.

I went 27 years without having to take medication for my seizure issues (ages 11 to 38). I then had 2 Petite seizures in a 4 day period after not having any in 34 years.

They started me on a massive dose on meds in the hospital. It left me basically comatose. I was told not to drive for 6 months and put on a minimal daily dosage. I started driving again three weeks later. Due to my stress levels they've tried to upgrade my dosage 3 times in the last 30 months. I've declined each time. I remember what it was like being on Phenobarbital as a kid. I will never do that again. I'd rather die.

cannabis does not harm the "soul", but it can heal the mind and broaden ones perspective.

Soul? when did god say don't touch?

“Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food."

Foxglove is a plant. Have some foxglove tea. It gives a high to die for.

 

[Katzndogz]

For all people around the world and through time, even people who never knew of the western "god"???

The Divine is not Eastern or Western. Definitely not Abrahamic in nature. You assume far too much in your responses.

The purpose of the Divine is to test EVERY Soul until it passes, fails utterly or is sent back to try agsin.

Ah ha. It is Maat!

 

[Anathema]

Ah ha. It is Maat!

No, but Maat is very similar in nature, and was probably the Egyptian version thereof. The Divine is far more brutal, and definitely not female.

 

[Katzndogz]

Cannabis has been medicine for more than 5000 yrs. How is that wrong? Most meds have side effects which you need more rx meds, etc.

Simply because its natural doesn't make it good or right to use it. The side effects are why I don't use most prescription drugs either.
You remember that. Is this a personal recollection?

I know someone what has a bleeding colon that her rx for symptoms made her hair fall out. CBD not only is healing her colon but no more hair loss or other side effects.

My dather had terminal Cancer and was offered THC-based meds. I have Glaucoma and Epileptic issues for which THC meds can be prescribed. Neither of us would choose THC-based therapies. There are preferable options. For me they include blindness abd seizures. For him it was debilitating pain.

Some might use it to relax, better than alcohol is on your body and mind. Much better for you than a handful of pills that will only bring dependency and spikes of pain. Warning, don't operate machinery, not conducive for work place.

Alcohol and those pills should be banned as well. ANY substance that creares an altered state of mind should be banned.

It was right till 1940. Now CDC is saying it is right as a medicine again for many conditions. FDA lowered the classification. Why is that wrong?

It was never tight. The Government is not the arbiter of Right and Wrong... the Divinity is.

God created cannabis and man has used it for 5000 yrs to treat different ailments. I remember leaves being give to women in labor to chew. It was used to reduce pain for stitches or minor surgery by wise women.

It has been a medicine around the world for far longer than chemical made prescriptions that cost an arm and a leg.

If you don't want the high, juice it or make tea or choose strains with no THC in them. Founding fathers used it, why should it be wrong now?

There are hundreds of uses for the plant other than THC. Fast growing, renewable source for clothing, food, paper beside medicine.

Gods pharmacy

Why is that wrong?

You remember women given marijuana to chew. Is this a personal recollection?

Where I grew up it was. There is no high to the leaves.
It was a wild plant that we nick named goat weed. It was a bit like catnip to them.

Almost every culture used it for medicine at some time. Some never stopped.

Goat weed has nothing to do with potty. Goat weed is Barrenwort. Where potty can cause limp dick, goat weed is supposed to cure it.

 

[aris2chat]

why?.....she has maybe 3-4 Petite Mall Seizures a year and other wise can do anything she wants except drive.....with your attitude i am surprised you havent already shot yourself....to want to just end it instead of trying something that has worked for many people is a pretty defeatist attitude...

Why? Because it is my belief that the damage that treatment is doing to her Soul far outweighs any benefit it brings to her body.

I went 27 years without having to take medication for my seizure issues (ages 11 to 38). I then had 2 Petite seizures in a 4 day period after not having any in 34 years.

They started me on a massive dose on meds in the hospital. It left me basically comatose. I was told not to drive for 6 months and put on a minimal daily dosage. I started driving again three weeks later. Due to my stress levels they've tried to upgrade my dosage 3 times in the last 30 months. I've declined each time. I remember what it was like being on Phenobarbital as a kid. I will never do that again. I'd rather die.

cannabis does not harm the "soul", but it can heal the mind and broaden ones perspective.

Soul? when did god say don't touch?

“Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food."

Foxglove is a plant. Have some foxglove tea. It gives a high to die for.

and it save lives of those with CHF and edema

 

[aris2chat]

>>Goat weed has nothing to do with potty. Goat weed is Barrenwort. Where potty can cause limp dick, goat weed is supposed to cure it.<<

We nick named it goat weed.

Bishops hat comes with it's own dangers, herbal viagra but men do love their little blue pills

 

[EverCurious]

I found this interesting - History of Medical Cannabis

 

[aris2chat]

Please...can somebody who knows, explain to me

if marijuana is legal and all that.... (I am no expert on this I don't smoke it)

why is it that on TV on the Crime shows...when I watch Crime Investigation and COPS ...and all that

why is it that they always send to jail people who are found with a little marijuana?

I do not understand this

Fed vs state argument that has been around for ages really. Fed's started criminalizing in 1937, however many states, like Alaska, said "pfft" and ignored the federal law (Alaska, the last hold out, was /forced/ into making it illegal in 1992 - the Feds said that if we didn't criminalize they were rescinding Federal money.) Not too long after we made it illegal the FBI & ATF moved in up here and started busting even our small time local growers and possessors, because most Alaska cops refused to pursue them over something that this state has always considered to be a [state] constitutional right to privacy - RE possession of a small amount of pot for personal use. The Fed would have no such "challenge to their authority."

In any event, now we are back to the old mess of bullshit. While you can walk down almost any street in Alaska and smoke a joint, until Fed's legalize, you can be busted by FBI/ATF agents (and you likely will be if you happen to get caught on National Park land, which includes some of our highways and ohhh 80% of the state.) A State Trooper could bust you for possession under Federal AFT guidelines, but not under state guidelines - and just to complicate shit, state guidelines and state constitutional right to privacy can be used as a "defense" in court against Fed guidelines - it's a legal mess.

In Anchorage, if you have over (I believe) 9oz it's considered to be intent to deal and you are considered to be breaking the law for now, however, Anchorage voted to make sales legal so it's just a matter of the city putting the zoning & distance laws, and tax rates on the books. In Huston, you can officially grow and sell pot legally, basically they finished up their laws and stuff for pot sale businesses. I highly suspect the rest of the valley (aka Wasilla & Palmer) will follow suit very quickly as that was the heart of Alaska's pot growing before the Feds got a hair up their ass, I can't imagine they will want to give up that "title" - they were why pot was so strongly supported up here (because it was "Alaskan Grown") and why Alaska had held out so long against Nixon's amp'ed up "War on Drugs."


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In other news, I watched a medical study of LSD last night and it's believed that they might be able to use that to cure addiction, as well as a possible treatment for a number of mental conditions. (Don't see that becoming legal for the general public as the public risks are too great, but I could see hospitals starting to using it in future treatments.)

LSD is used to treat migraines

 

[aris2chat]

I found this interesting - History of Medical Cannabis

Otzi had cannabis when he was found

 

[EverCurious]

I know almost nothing about medicine. I somehow manage to not need anything despite my appalling "health" habits. I figured I should start taking a one-a-day and this stuff called Mega Red for joints, but I'm so inconsistent I'm not sure it even counts. Speaking of...