Measuring success in Afghanistan withdrawal

[Faun]

Oh? Prove it.

The proof is you couldn't prove your claim.

 

[j-mac]

The proof is you couldn't prove your claim.

What claim is that?

 

[Devils_Advocate]

A successful withdrawal of Afghanistan will be if every American soldier and civil service worker gets out alive. How else will you measure success?

Well then it was a total failure by you but you will shift the goal posts as usual.

 

[j-mac]

5 Questions Now After President Biden's Afghanistan Withdrawal

Among the questions: What happens to the Americans still in Afghanistan? And: What does the exit mean for Biden's approach to the world?

www.npr.org

In his remarks Tuesday, Biden said there are about 100 to 200 Americans who remain in Afghanistan. Most are dual citizens, he said, who initially didn't want to leave because of family roots in the country.

And you buy the lie.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

And you buy the lie.

Yes, Faun will buy any lie said by the left but had someone on the right said, well Faun would be screaming “ Liar “…

 

[surada]

Well then it was a total failure by you but you will shift the goal posts as usual.

Fewer than 200 dual citizens remain in Afghanistan by choice for now.

 

[Faun]

What claim is that?

Your claim that Biden abandoned thousands of Americans in Afghanistan.

 

[Faun]

And you buy the lie.

Because you have no proof otherwise.

 

[Faun]

Yes, Faun will buy any lie said by the left but had someone on the right said, well Faun would be screaming “ Liar “…

So prove it's a lie.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Fewer than 200 dual citizens remain in Afghanistan by choice for now.

Reread the OP comments and members of our Military were killed in the evacuation process, so it was a failure but again thank you for moving the goal post!

 

[Devils_Advocate]

So prove it's a lie.

Simple, Biden is a politician and all Politicians lie, so not all that stayed wanted to, and Biden left them behind and got Military people killed while at it…

Imagine had Trump did it and how you would agree Trump failed!

 

[j-mac]

Fewer than 200 dual citizens remain in Afghanistan by choice for now.

That simply is not true.

 

[j-mac]

Your claim that Biden abandoned thousands of Americans in Afghanistan.

He did.

 

[Faun]

He did.

So prove it then....

 

[citygator]

Well then it was a total failure by you but you will shift the goal posts as usual.

Another giddy righty glad that a terrorist attack makes him feel better about being partisan. No deaths would have been a success. Your shift to abject failure is problematic but you’re not looking to debate levels of success. You just wanna use those deaths to feel good about being against the President. All the power to ya.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Another giddy righty glad that a terrorist attack makes him feel better about being partisan. No deaths would have been a success. Your shift to abject failure is problematic but you’re not looking to debate levels of success. You just wanna use those deaths to feel good about being against the President. All the power to ya.

I voted for Biden you, so he failed according to your own OP and now you want it both ways because you know he also failed but can’t admit it.

Had the same failure happened under Trump you would have been giddy and proclaiming failure but it happened under Biden, so now you want to move the goal posts and proclaim it was still success.

So do not make predictions unless you want them to haunt you, and this one should haunt you!

 

[citygator]

I voted for Biden you, so he failed according to your own OP and now you want it both ways because you know he also failed but can’t admit it.

Had the same failure happened under Trump you would have been giddy and proclaiming failure but it happened under Biden, so now you want to move the goal posts and proclaim it was still success.

So do not make predictions unless you want them to haunt you, and this one should haunt you!

Prediction? Fuck off. It’s not controversial to state no deaths would be a success. It would have been. One terrorist attack now makes it a debate with hindsight. It was a dicey operation.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Prediction? Fuck off. It’s not controversial to state no deaths would a success. It would have been. One terrorist attack now makes it a debate with hindsight. It was a dicey operation.

Poor wittle Citygator upset he has to admit Biden failed in his eyes because left people behind and got soldiers killed.

Just imagine had this happened under Trump how fast you would be saying Trump failed!

 

[citygator]

Poor wittle Citygator upset he has to admit Biden failed in his eyes because left people behind and got soldiers killed.

Just imagine had this happened under Trump how fast you would be saying Trump failed!

We clearly don’t know each other even digitally from this board. I’ve been critical of Biden for several issues. He ain’t perfect and was my 5th pick of the democrats. However this operation was gutsy. The easy thing was claiming we’d get out then leaving office.

 

[j-mac]

Because you have no proof otherwise.

Oh there is proof out there, only you have to employ just the slightest bit of common sense to the problem...

Biden could leave thousands of Americans behind in Afghanistan

President Joe Biden could leave behind thousands of Americans in Afghanistan if he sticks to August 31 as his deadline to remove all U.S. troops in the

americanmilitarynews.com

On August 17th Jen Psaki told reporters that 11,000 people had "self reported" to the State Department that they were American citizens and in need of extraction out of the country...

Now, here is where the common sense takes hold, or at least should if your argument is honest.

If on August 17th, the WH was saying that there were 11,000 were reported in country and in need of extraction, then on August 31st the President comes out in his victory lap and lauds that our forces extracted 5,500 American citizens, BUT, all of the sudden only 100 to 200 remain? That simply doesn't add up. They're lying because they don't know, and why don't they know? Because they wrote them off....

Shameful.