McDonalds Introduces Self Serving Kiosks in Response to Min Wage Increase

[OnePercenter]

Thanks to the left, now even high school kids can't get jobs.

Thanks To 'Fight For $15' Minimum Wage, McDonald's Unveils Job-Replacing Self-Service Kiosks Nationwide

I also call bullshit. The same person that takes your order brings you your food. How would an automated order system reduce staff?

You order and pay through the kiosk.The food is prepared in the kitchen and is delivered to the customer from the kitchen without the need of cashiers and someone to hand you the food.

McDonalds, Panera, Wendy's, and Hardee's are all moving to use locations with significantly less employees.

Wendy's CEO commented: ""We've been able to create some efficiencies on labor across the restaurant ... like customer self-order kiosks, mobile order, and mobile pay," Penegor said. Kiosks could possibly "mitigate any of the inflation" seen on the wage front for Wendy's, and could for other chains as well."

Andy Puzder, the CEO of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's, is convinced. "If you're making labor more expensive, and automation less expensive - this is not rocket science."

Bullshit! Kitchen employees don't deliver food.

The bottom line is companies don't want to reduce the quarterly record profits they're making.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I'm calling bullshit.

They would have done the kiosk thing anyway.

How long does it take to design and develop the kiosks and computer programs? How long to install them nationwide?

This has been in the works longer than the call for wage increases.

2 years to develop. Same time KKKalif passed the min wage increase.
Have a nice day!

Why do you continue to rally against American workers making a living wage?

I will chime in. Not every job is a career. Cost of living varies greatly based on location within the country. The Federal Government should not mandate labor rates. The market does that. If you don't pay enough, you won't get employees.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks to the left, now even high school kids can't get jobs.

Thanks To 'Fight For $15' Minimum Wage, McDonald's Unveils Job-Replacing Self-Service Kiosks Nationwide

I also call bullshit. The same person that takes your order brings you your food. How would an automated order system reduce staff?

You order and pay through the kiosk.The food is prepared in the kitchen and is delivered to the customer from the kitchen without the need of cashiers and someone to hand you the food.

McDonalds, Panera, Wendy's, and Hardee's are all moving to use locations with significantly less employees.

Wendy's CEO commented: ""We've been able to create some efficiencies on labor across the restaurant ... like customer self-order kiosks, mobile order, and mobile pay," Penegor said. Kiosks could possibly "mitigate any of the inflation" seen on the wage front for Wendy's, and could for other chains as well."

Andy Puzder, the CEO of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's, is convinced. "If you're making labor more expensive, and automation less expensive - this is not rocket science."

Bullshit! Kitchen employees don't deliver food.

The bottom line is companies don't want to reduce the quarterly record profits they're making.

Yep, that's exactly it. Why should they?

 

[initforme]

Those are loiw wage jobs...no big loss.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I love the innovation that the push for a $15.00 federal minimum wage was fostered! Thanks, Service Employees International Union, for speeding up the process of convenience to the customer.

I'd rather buy a cheeseburger from a kiosk than a shithead snowflake who thinks this is a career anyways.

I had a couple I rented an apartment to. They moved out about a year ago. They were with me for several years, and both worked restaurant jobs. She worked at Pizza Hut and he at McDonald's.

It's not like there were no other opportunities around, it's just that they smoked pot and couldn't get a better job because better jobs drug test employees.

They were always late with the rent, drove beat up cars, but they always paid and were good kids. It was my hope that one day when financial interests became more important than pot, they's smoke their last bag and concentrate how to be more productive in life.

If we ever had a huge increase in minimum wage, that day might come a lot later if at all. They would be professional pizza flippers and french fry makers, and never pursue a better life for themselves.

This is exactly what entry level jobs are not supposed to be....a career.

Jobs that anyone can do pay very little...as they should.

The basic way to determine if you have a "job" or a "career" is what happens when you are not at work. If you are a cashier at BEST BUY, customers do not wait in line until you return to work. That is a job.

It's fine to stay in those types of jobs, but there should not be an expectation of a high salary for a job that anyone can do with a few hours of training.

My first job when I got out of school was a car wash for minimum wage back in the 70's. When I found a better job, I left the car wash. When I wanted something better, I left that job to get something better.

Who knows how long I would have stayed at the car wash if liberals back then got a huge minimum wage increase. What kept me moving forward is not making enough money and being easily replaced if the company didn't like me.

If you dangle a carrot in front of a horse, the horse will move. Give him the carrot, and the horse just stands there and eats.

Exactly. There is a need for those jobs to be done, but they are not career employment.

If someone washes cars for 40
years, that is on them.

As we already explored, this push for a Federal minimum wage of $15.00/hour is only helping to innovate alternative labor solutions. It is guaranteeing the inevitable obsolescence of these jobs even sooner.

Also what's never considered by the left is the domino effect which causes inflation.

You graduate high school and get a job at a factory with no experience for $8.00 an hour. As time goes on, you learn more things making your labor more valuable to your employer.

After a few years, you are at $12.00 an hour. All of a sudden, liberals get control over the government and you are now making $15.00 an hour because that's the new minimum wage. Even though delighted with the new money, you also find yourself right back to where you started--minimum wage.

So you address your supervisor or employer and threaten to walk out if you are not paid at least $19.00 per hour, because that's the distance you were at from minimum wage before they raised it. The employer has no choice but to pay it. Now what happens to your coworker that was with the company five years longer than you hears about that???

Here in Cleveland they just voted down a $15.00 minimum wage. Why? Because even these Democrats had to admit it would chase jobs out of the city into the suburbs. Great for me because I live in the suburbs. Bad for Cleveland because they lose all that tax revenue.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I love the innovation that the push for a $15.00 federal minimum wage was fostered! Thanks, Service Employees International Union, for speeding up the process of convenience to the customer.

I'd rather buy a cheeseburger from a kiosk than a shithead snowflake who thinks this is a career anyways.

I had a couple I rented an apartment to. They moved out about a year ago. They were with me for several years, and both worked restaurant jobs. She worked at Pizza Hut and he at McDonald's.

It's not like there were no other opportunities around, it's just that they smoked pot and couldn't get a better job because better jobs drug test employees.

They were always late with the rent, drove beat up cars, but they always paid and were good kids. It was my hope that one day when financial interests became more important than pot, they's smoke their last bag and concentrate how to be more productive in life.

If we ever had a huge increase in minimum wage, that day might come a lot later if at all. They would be professional pizza flippers and french fry makers, and never pursue a better life for themselves.

This is exactly what entry level jobs are not supposed to be....a career.

Jobs that anyone can do pay very little...as they should.

The basic way to determine if you have a "job" or a "career" is what happens when you are not at work. If you are a cashier at BEST BUY, customers do not wait in line until you return to work. That is a job.

It's fine to stay in those types of jobs, but there should not be an expectation of a high salary for a job that anyone can do with a few hours of training.

My first job when I got out of school was a car wash for minimum wage back in the 70's. When I found a better job, I left the car wash. When I wanted something better, I left that job to get something better.

Who knows how long I would have stayed at the car wash if liberals back then got a huge minimum wage increase. What kept me moving forward is not making enough money and being easily replaced if the company didn't like me.

If you dangle a carrot in front of a horse, the horse will move. Give him the carrot, and the horse just stands there and eats.

Exactly. There is a need for those jobs to be done, but they are not career employment.

If someone washes cars for 40
years, that is on them.

As we already explored, this push for a Federal minimum wage of $15.00/hour is only helping to innovate alternative labor solutions. It is guaranteeing the inevitable obsolescence of these jobs even sooner.

Also what's never considered by the left is the domino effect which causes inflation.

You graduate high school and get a job at a factory with no experience for $8.00 an hour. As time goes on, you learn more things making your labor more valuable to your employer.

After a few years, you are at $12.00 an hour. All of a sudden, liberals get control over the government and you are now making $15.00 an hour because that's the new minimum wage. Even though delighted with the new money, you also find yourself right back to where you started--minimum wage.

So you address your supervisor or employer and threaten to walk out if you are not paid at least $19.00 per hour, because that's the distance you were at from minimum wage before they raised it. The employer has no choice but to pay it. Now what happens to your coworker that was with the company five years longer than you hears about that???

Here in Cleveland they just voted down a $15.00 minimum wage. Why? Because even these Democrats had to admit it would chase jobs out of the city into the suburbs. Great for me because I live in the suburbs. Bad for Cleveland because they lose all that tax revenue.

Absolutely that will happen. The "ripple" effect on the wage scale would be a tsunami. You presented it perfectly.

 

[initforme]

The employer doesn't have to pay the $19. Most all american companies don't want to retain their workers because it costs them more and they are to cheap to pay it. Its easier to keep training newbies and then fire them when they know their jobs well.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The employer doesn't have to pay the $19. Most all american companies don't want to retain their workers because it costs them more and they are to cheap to pay it. Its easier to keep training newbies and then fire them when they know their jobs well.

That doesn't even make any sense. Obviously you don't work or know people that do.

Training is an exhaustive process depending on what the job is. Not only the time to train a person, but hoping he or she may be able to grasp the job, not quit, or be a low productive worker.

Most companies value good employees. If it's a monkey job that anybody can do, perhaps they don't value those workers as much. But I work in industry, and several of our customers only hire through temporary agencies. They want to try out the worker first for several months to see if they catch on, willing to work OT when needed, and monitor their attendance record because they don't want to go through what I just described. They want to keep their unemployment insurance rates down by not firing or laying people off all the time.

 

[initforme]

Most companies dislike their laborers. Fact. They enjoy firing people. Fact. I worked in corporate america management for many years...I know how they think. As long as the worker can handle what we give him, then ask the worker to do a little more for no increase in pay....for the good of the company...lol.

 

[Winston]

If you are selling a car for less than that I think it's worth, and I buy your car, did I steal anything from you? Of course not. We both agreed on the deal.

Don't work that way hoss. If you know the car is worth significantly more than the price being paid you are STEALING the savings. The courts have ruled as much several times and it does not matter if you both agreed to the deal.

Come on, watch any TV. Pawn Stars, American Pickers---when the seller asks for a price that is too low the buyers tell them the price is too low and pays more. You think they are doing that because they are nice, because it is on TV? They are doing it because they don't want to find themselves in court.

 

[OnePercenter]

I'm calling bullshit.

They would have done the kiosk thing anyway.

How long does it take to design and develop the kiosks and computer programs? How long to install them nationwide?

This has been in the works longer than the call for wage increases.

2 years to develop. Same time KKKalif passed the min wage increase.
Have a nice day!

Why do you continue to rally against American workers making a living wage?

I will chime in. Not every job is a career. Cost of living varies greatly based on location within the country. The Federal Government should not mandate labor rates. The market does that. If you don't pay enough, you won't get employees.

You stated: Not every job is a career.

When I was 21, I purchased a printing company and created a marketing company. Ninety percent of my employees were still with my when I sold, 20 years later. It's not the job that's the career, it's the employer that's the career.

You stated: Cost of living varies greatly based on location within the country.

That's true, however, 80% of the population lives within 200 miles of water, so wages should be set for the majority.

You stated: The Federal Government should not mandate labor rates. The market does that.

The market is fixed. There seems to be a belief that employee pay should be on the same monetary plane as what one would pay for fish at a local restaurant.

The feds do need to step in when capitalist racketeering prevails.

You stated: If you don't pay enough, you won't get employees.

Or you prey upon ones that are desperate.

 

[OnePercenter]

Thanks to the left, now even high school kids can't get jobs.

Thanks To 'Fight For $15' Minimum Wage, McDonald's Unveils Job-Replacing Self-Service Kiosks Nationwide

I also call bullshit. The same person that takes your order brings you your food. How would an automated order system reduce staff?

You order and pay through the kiosk.The food is prepared in the kitchen and is delivered to the customer from the kitchen without the need of cashiers and someone to hand you the food.

McDonalds, Panera, Wendy's, and Hardee's are all moving to use locations with significantly less employees.

Wendy's CEO commented: ""We've been able to create some efficiencies on labor across the restaurant ... like customer self-order kiosks, mobile order, and mobile pay," Penegor said. Kiosks could possibly "mitigate any of the inflation" seen on the wage front for Wendy's, and could for other chains as well."

Andy Puzder, the CEO of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's, is convinced. "If you're making labor more expensive, and automation less expensive - this is not rocket science."

Bullshit! Kitchen employees don't deliver food.

The bottom line is companies don't want to reduce the quarterly record profits they're making.

Yep, that's exactly it. Why should they?

Because it's the responsible thing to do.

 

[Wyatt earp]

To be serious those have been around in fast food for over 10 years, I highly doubt they will become the norm.

Most people like me don't like them or use them, even in the supermarket self check out.


Let's look at history and human nature this has been around for a 100 years I think and didn't take over

 

[initforme]

Most co panies are not interested in finding really productive workers because most jobs don't pay enough for high productivity. Pay more then one works harder. Pay less and well less productivity.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

To be serious those have been around in fast food for over 10 years, I highly doubt they will become the norm.

Most people like me don't like them or use them, even in the supermarket self check out.


Let's look at history and human nature this has been around for a 100 years I think and didn't take over

If vendors start offering a small discount to use machines, that will be the end of human labor. It's just like what happened years ago when we converted from full service gasoline islands to self-serve. They offered a discount to those that pumped their own gas. As time went on, more and more people crowded the self-service island. After a while, they got rid of full service because nobody used them any longer.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks to the left, now even high school kids can't get jobs.

Thanks To 'Fight For $15' Minimum Wage, McDonald's Unveils Job-Replacing Self-Service Kiosks Nationwide

I also call bullshit. The same person that takes your order brings you your food. How would an automated order system reduce staff?

You order and pay through the kiosk.The food is prepared in the kitchen and is delivered to the customer from the kitchen without the need of cashiers and someone to hand you the food.

McDonalds, Panera, Wendy's, and Hardee's are all moving to use locations with significantly less employees.

Wendy's CEO commented: ""We've been able to create some efficiencies on labor across the restaurant ... like customer self-order kiosks, mobile order, and mobile pay," Penegor said. Kiosks could possibly "mitigate any of the inflation" seen on the wage front for Wendy's, and could for other chains as well."

Andy Puzder, the CEO of Carl's Jr. and Hardee's, is convinced. "If you're making labor more expensive, and automation less expensive - this is not rocket science."

Bullshit! Kitchen employees don't deliver food.

The bottom line is companies don't want to reduce the quarterly record profits they're making.

Yep, that's exactly it. Why should they?

Because it's the responsible thing to do.

Nobody opens up a business to do what you consider responsible things. Nobody opens up a business to create good paying jobs. Businesses open up and stay open to sell products or services for a profit. Nobody uses their own money to open up a business to provide a social obligation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you are selling a car for less than that I think it's worth, and I buy your car, did I steal anything from you? Of course not. We both agreed on the deal.

Don't work that way hoss. If you know the car is worth significantly more than the price being paid you are STEALING the savings. The courts have ruled as much several times and it does not matter if you both agreed to the deal.

Come on, watch any TV. Pawn Stars, American Pickers---when the seller asks for a price that is too low the buyers tell them the price is too low and pays more. You think they are doing that because they are nice, because it is on TV? They are doing it because they don't want to find themselves in court.

Never heard of one case like that. There may be cases where predators swindle people out of something, but not a fair exchange of money agreed on by both parties where the seller is asking X amount and a buyer agrees to buy the item for that price set by the seller.

 

[Wyatt earp]

To be serious those have been around in fast food for over 10 years, I highly doubt they will become the norm.

Most people like me don't like them or use them, even in the supermarket self check out.


Let's look at history and human nature this has been around for a 100 years I think and didn't take over

If vendors start offering a small discount to use machines, that will be the end of human labor. It's just like what happened years ago when we converted from full service gasoline islands to self-serve. They offered a discount to those that pumped their own gas. As time went on, more and more people crowded the self-service island. After a while, they got rid of full service because nobody used them any longer.

Or they can be New Jersey (and one other state forgot which one) and just outlaw them...


I still can't believe in the year 2017 the good folks in NJ can't even pump their own gas


.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Most companies dislike their laborers. Fact. They enjoy firing people. Fact. I worked in corporate america management for many years...I know how they think. As long as the worker can handle what we give him, then ask the worker to do a little more for no increase in pay....for the good of the company...lol.

Utter bull. What company wants to pay extreme prices for unemployment insurance? That would be the stupidest decision ever and no business could stay in business like that.

 

[Wyatt earp]

To be serious those have been around in fast food for over 10 years, I highly doubt they will become the norm.

Most people like me don't like them or use them, even in the supermarket self check out.


Let's look at history and human nature this has been around for a 100 years I think and didn't take over

If vendors start offering a small discount to use machines, that will be the end of human labor. It's just like what happened years ago when we converted from full service gasoline islands to self-serve. They offered a discount to those that pumped their own gas. As time went on, more and more people crowded the self-service island. After a while, they got rid of full service because nobody used them any longer.

Or they can be New Jersey (and one other state forgot which one) and just outlaw them...


I still can't believe in the year 2017 the good folks in NJ can't even pump their own gas


.

Also I forgot to mention they could offer a discount I could care less, I still would like to flirt with the cashier girl.



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