Matt Gaetz Attorney General...

[jc456]

Millions of Americans

millions more don't. Did you miss there were 6 million more who saw it like us.

 

[Flopper]

I believe all federal charges are already being dropped.

But out of curiosity, if they weren’t dropped prior to Trump’s inauguration, what part of the Constitution would be violated by directing his AG to do so?

Separation of powers between the executive, judicial, and legislative branch.

For example the president may solicit the advice of the AG on legal matters of the United States but he can not involve himself in the justice dept; that is, who is to be arrested, prosecuted or investigated. The president cannot fire federal prosecutors, nor special counsel without cause.

So you can see how important it is that Trump has an AG with unquestionable loyalty. It allows him to have private meetings with the AG to sidestep the constitution.

 

[BackAgain]

Separation of powers between the executive, judicial, and legislative branch.

For example the president may solicit the advice of the AG on legal matters of the United States but he can not involve himself in the justice dept; that is who is to be arrested, prosecuted or investigated.

Cite? Link?

The president cannot fire federal prosecutors, nor special counsel without cause.

So what? How is that relevant?

So you can see how important it is that Trump has an AG with unquestionable loyalty.

No. I don’t see any such thing. I don’t believe any AG is obligated to put into effect an improper order by the President. But that turns on the distinction between a proper order vs an improper order.

It allows him to have private meetings with the AG to sidestep the constitution.

I’m not sure your belief system qualifies as evidence.

 

[Flopper]

But you respect Garland. Who initiated partisan political indictments of a former President because he was a political threat to his boss. But booze and banging girls is where you draw the line.

What you claim would be illegal. The AG can not influence the Special Counsel nor the federal grand jury that indicted. Trump.

 

[BackAgain]

What you claim would be illegal. The AG can not influence the Special Counsel

Really? What part of the creation of Smith’s office says the AG cannot influence the special persecutor?

nor the federal grand jury that indicted. Trump.

It’s not clear that has any relevance.

 

[Flopper]

Cite? Link?

The president cannot fire federal prosecutors, nor special counsel without cause.

So what? How is that relevant?

No. I don’t see any such thing. I don’t believe any AG is obligated to put into effect an improper order by the President. But that turns on the distinction between a proper order vs an improper order.

I’m not sure your belief system qualifies as evidence.

Separation of Powers in Action - U.S. v. Alvarez

www.uscourts.gov

 

[Flopper]

Really? What part of the creation of Smith’s office says the AG cannot influence the special persecutor?

It’s not clear that has any relevance.

Keeping the AG or anyone in government from directing or influencing the Special Counsel is why we have special counsels. They are given power to operate independently.

 

[Flopper]

Really? What part of the creation of Smith’s office says the AG cannot influence the special persecutor?

It’s not clear that has any relevance.

The law.
The U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) is an independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency. OSC's statutory authority comes from four federal laws: the Civil Service Reform Act, the Whistleblower Protection Act, the Hatch Act, and the Uniformed Services Employment & Reemployment Act.

These laws makes the OSC an independent agency reportable to Congressional Oversight Committees

 

[Rawley]

What you claim would be illegal. The AG can not influence the Special Counsel nor the federal grand jury that indicted. Trump.

WHat a quaint thought. I'll bite, what statute would this violate?

 

[jc456]

Separation of powers between the executive, judicial, and legislative branch.

For example the president may solicit the advice of the AG on legal matters of the United States but he can not involve himself in the justice dept; that is, who is to be arrested, prosecuted or investigated. The president cannot fire federal prosecutors, nor special counsel without cause.

So you can see how important it is that Trump has an AG with unquestionable loyalty. It allows him to have private meetings with the AG to sidestep the constitution.

you should send that to creepy joe. let's go brandon

 

[BackAgain]

Separation of Powers in Action - U.S. v. Alvarez

www.uscourts.gov

How on Earth does that case support your claim that the President can’t “interfere” with the AG?

 

[BackAgain]

Keeping the AG or anyone in government from directing or influencing the Special Counsel is why we have special counsels. They are given power to operate independently.

No. The independence of any special persecutor is never a given. Even if (and I don’t believe it was specifically stated in the appointment of Smith) an AG tries to grant the special persecutor such autonomy, it is the President who is the nation’s CHIEF Executive. And he damn sure has to have authority to fire the special counsel or order the DOJ to dismiss the case (or cases) because, otherwise, his Constitutional authority and power is undercut.

In fact, there is a great deal of legal concern over whether any “special counsel” is or is not an officer of the U.S.
What this means is that if the special counsel could be insulated from oversight, he would have to be such an officer and therefore would have to have Senate confirmation. There was no such confirmation for Smith.

 

[BackAgain]

The law.
The U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) is an independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency. OSC's statutory authority comes from four federal laws: the Civil Service Reform Act, the Whistleblower Protection Act, the Hatch Act, and the Uniformed Services Employment & Reemployment Act.

These laws makes the OSC an independent agency reportable to Congressional Oversight Committees

No. They don’t. And legally and Constitutionally they cannot.

 

[jc456]

The law.
The U.S. Office of Special Counsel (OSC) is an independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency. OSC's statutory authority comes from four federal laws: the Civil Service Reform Act, the Whistleblower Protection Act, the Hatch Act, and the Uniformed Services Employment & Reemployment Act.

These laws makes the OSC an independent agency reportable to Congressional Oversight Committees

really unclear what point you're trying to make. They are nominated like any cabinet member, and not elected. Therefore, congress controls them.

 

[berg80]

Those of you who believe Gaetz was "cleared" by the DoJ because it did not file charges against him, a question.

Does that mean the DoJ "cleared" Hillary of any charges because it did not file charges against her?

If so, why have you folks been bitching about it for 8 years? If not, why not?

 

[BackAgain]

Those of you who believe Gaetz was "cleared" by the DoJ because it did not file charges against him, a question.

Does that mean the DoJ "cleared" Hillary of any charges because it did not file charges against her?

If so, why have you folks been bitching about it for 8 years? If not, why not?

Try to think. We know it’s very hard for you.

Hillary was deliberately let off the hook because a charlatan FBI hack made a bogus decision about what a so-called “reasonable” prosecutor would do or wouldn’t do. And the idiot AG at that time happily bought that crap.

 

[Delldude]

Millions of Americans

Jury is that large?

 

[Delldude]

Those of you who believe Gaetz was "cleared" by the DoJ because it did not file charges against him, a question.

If the DOJ drops an investigation due to the witnesses, who are providing credible testimony, and it was determined that testimony wouldn't hold up in court.......there you go..............easy peasy.

But congress has the 'real' poop................................

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/11/20/congress/ethics-panel-does-not-agree-to-release-gaetz-report-00190655

 

[SeaMajor7]

Gaetz is out. Just heard on the radio.

 

[Blaster]

Gaetz is out. Just heard on the radio.

I'm not surprised.