Massachusetts Church Keeps Anti-ICE Nativity Scene, Defying Diocese Leaders.

[22lcidw]

Since when does MAGA give a shit the Separation of Church and State? Miryam, Yosef and Yeshua would be considered illegal in today's United States. Illegally in the country, NOT speaking or understanding English. Yeshua would be taken from his mother by force, ICE has a history of doing that.


YOU are a so-called "Christian" only when you want to be, Your avatar is a pentagram, not very "Christian" is it Forcing pseudo religious beliefs on others, violating the Separation of Church and State.

As a person who worked for over 20+Years for a Non-Profit run the the Order of Friars Minor, i.e. Franciscans ), you have no right to lecture me or anyone else on the Separation Clause.

You only use your pseudo religion it is convenient for you.

Yeshua NEVER once talked about Homosexuality or Homosexuals, nor he talk about Abortion. He did NOT believe in DIVORCE, and how many MAGA MAGGOTS (including 47) have had a divorce or multiple divorces? Did Yeshua call for children to ripped from their Mother's Arms by force, hardly a "Christian" act. YOU have to live that value, and YOU do not.

Did Yeshua charge to "Make the lame to walk, the blind to see and the deaf to walk"? Yet so-called "Christians" unite around ending the A.C.A. Did Yeshua charge for the whole loaves and fishes thing or did feed the people for free (very socialist)?

Like I wrote before, your so-called "Christian" are very transactional, you use them only when you want to.

The Christians in another era went along with the massive tax increases from the communists who took over your party that created the nation for you to tell them to go **** themselves. They were fools.

 

[Correll]

Since when does MAGA give a shit the Separation of Church and State?

The point is that liberals are being hypocritical, by supporting this political advocacy by a lefty church.

MAGA does NOT give a shit about seperation of church and state. We are fine with churches engaging in political activity.

This was clear. That you are confused by that, is ... hard to credit.

Miryam, Yosef and Yeshua would be considered illegal in today's United States. Illegally in the country, NOT speaking or understanding English. Yeshua would be taken from his mother by force, ICE has a history of doing that.

...

The United States is not part of the roman empire. I would hope that Jesus's father would not break our laws and invade us, putting his wife and child at risk.

 

[pknopp]

If a black church endorsed Harris, would that have bothered you in any fashion and if so, how would your..problem with that have manifested?

Yes it would bother me but what do you expect me to do? LOL Not attend where I already don't attend? Drive across country and tell them I don't support their actions?

I'm really not sure why you felt a need to ask a question I've already answer.

 

[Correll]

Yes it would bother me but what do you expect me to do? LOL Not attend where I already don't attend? Drive across country and tell them I don't support their actions?

I'm really not sure why you felt a need to ask a question I've already answer.

So, you would be "bothered" but the result would be no change in your behavior.


The point stands. The left, as a group, generally speaking, has attacked the right and conservative churches with the attack of "seperation of church and state".

Yet, when lefties infiltrate churches and then use them to advocate for LEFTY political goals, those moves are GENERALLY SPEAKING, celebrated by the left.


And when we on the right point out the hypocrisy, the left is unable to even think.


The concept of holding consistent standards of behavior or rules, is so alien to them, that they don't even understand what we are saying.

 

[pknopp]

So, you would be "bothered" but the result would be no change in your behavior.

LOL, now you are trying far too hard. I'm suppose to change my behavior over what others do? LOL

The point stands. The left, as a group, generally speaking, has attacked the right and conservative churches with the attack of "seperation of church and state".

Yet, when lefties infiltrate churches and then use them to advocate for LEFTY political goals, those moves are GENERALLY SPEAKING, celebrated by the left.


And when we on the right point out the hypocrisy, the left is unable to even think.


The concept of holding consistent standards of behavior or rules, is so alien to them, that they don't even understand what we are saying.

Take your rants elsewhere.

 

[Correll]

LOL, now you are trying far too hard. I'm suppose to change my behavior over what others do? LOL

The point of the thread was to complain about lefty hypocrisy on the issue of church involvment in politics.

Your point has been to deny that you personally are part of that.

Yet the end result of your NOT being part of that, is nothing.


So, all your talk of not being part of that, is basically irrelevant, because even though you might have a disagreement on this particular point,

you are still part of their political alliance and still support their general agenda.

Take your rants elsewhere.

Odd. YOu claim you don't support the left in this. Yet, when I make a point about the left, in relation to the thread topic, instead of agreeing with me or even engaging with me,

you dismiss me and tell me to go "elsewhere".

This is the "moderate" dem. He is fierce in his voicing of his differences with the hard left.

To teh point of, still going along with their agenda and policies, that are causing great harm to me and mine,


but they really want me to celebrate the serious and significant differences between tehm and the real herd of the hard left.


Ummm, yeah. Very impressive.

 

[pknopp]

The point of the thread was to complain about lefty hypocrisy on the issue of church involvment in politics.

Your point has been to deny that you personally are part of that.

Yet the end result of your NOT being part of that, is nothing.


So, all your talk of not being part of that, is basically irrelevant, because even though you might have a disagreement on this particular point,

you are still part of their political alliance and still support their general agenda.

The thread is over a church supporting immigrants like the Bible instructs.

Odd. YOu claim you don't support the left in this. Yet, when I make a point about the left, in relation to the thread topic, instead of agreeing with me or even engaging with me,

you dismiss me and tell me to go "elsewhere".

This is the "moderate" dem. He is fierce in his voicing of his differences with the hard left.

To teh point of, still going along with their agenda and policies, that are causing great harm to me and mine,


but they really want me to celebrate the serious and significant differences between tehm and the real herd of the hard left.


Ummm, yeah. Very impressive.

Im not interested in your rants. Get over it.

 

[Correll]

The thread is over a church supporting immigrants like the Bible instructs.

Thanks for ignoring...really everythign I said.

Im not interested in your rants. Get over it.

So different from the other lefties, who are hypocrites.

 

[pknopp]

Thanks for ignoring...really everythign I said.

You're welcome. Don't try and change the subject.

So different from the other lefties, who are hypocrites.

Some are. They have a lot of company.

 

[Correll]

You're welcome. Don't try and change the subject.



Some are. They have a lot of company.

And thus we see that all lefties are united in their hostility towards us.


We must show them no mercy.

 

[Eman623]

The Christmas display, which replaces Jesus, Mary and Joseph with a sign saying “ICE Was Here,” has drawn criticism from Catholic leaders and immigration officials.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/08/us/massachusetts-church-ice-nativity-scene.html

Leaders of a Catholic church near Boston kept a Nativity display with an anti-ICE message in place on Monday, defying an order from the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston to remove it.

The display, outside St. Susanna Parish in Dedham, Mass., includes the traditional shepherds, sheep and wise men gathered around a hay-filled manger. But Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus are missing, replaced by a sign reading “ICE WAS HERE” in bold blue letters.

ICE began a major immigration enforcement campaign in the Boston area in September, the forefront of a wave of similar efforts in other major cities.

Indeed yes, they would be undocumented people who were the Middle East and would have been dark skinned AND NOT speak or understand English. They would very much have have deported.

Deported to where? When Jesus was born, his dad Joseph was literally in the one city where he had full jus soli citizenship.

OTOH Maybe Jesus and Mary could still be deported, seeing as Joseph wasn't his biological father.

 

[Zebra]

The Christmas display, which replaces Jesus, Mary and Joseph with a sign saying “ICE Was Here,” has drawn criticism from Catholic leaders and immigration officials.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/08/us/massachusetts-church-ice-nativity-scene.html

Leaders of a Catholic church near Boston kept a Nativity display with an anti-ICE message in place on Monday, defying an order from the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston to remove it.

The display, outside St. Susanna Parish in Dedham, Mass., includes the traditional shepherds, sheep and wise men gathered around a hay-filled manger. But Mary, Joseph and baby Jesus are missing, replaced by a sign reading “ICE WAS HERE” in bold blue letters.

ICE began a major immigration enforcement campaign in the Boston area in September, the forefront of a wave of similar efforts in other major cities.

Indeed yes, they would be undocumented people who were the Middle East and would have been dark skinned AND NOT speak or understand English. They would very much have have deported.

An original idea,!

 

[22lcidw]

The thread is over a church supporting immigrants like the Bible instructs.




Im not interested in your rants. Get over it.

Pay for it. Give up your wealth like the good book says. Of course you won't.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Thesl-called "Christians" sure have an opinion about the Atheists on U.S.B. and they share that opinion whenever they want to. They sure as hell when it is pointed out to them how UNCHRISTIAN some of their words and actions truly are.

Yeah...so called. Just what is a Christian?

 

[pknopp]

Yeah...so called. Just what is a Christian?

I'm a Christian. Do you know what the Bible says? (most everyone does). Reject it? OK, that's between you and God, not you and I.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I'm a Christian.

What does that mean?

 

[pknopp]

What does that mean?

Do you know what the Bible says?

 

[HikerGuy83]

Do you know what the Bible says?

About what?

It says a lot of things.

From memory...just the N.T.

The four gospels are the teachings of Christ.

There is the Sermon on the Mount (Matt 5-7).

There are tons of parables:

The prodigal son
The parable of the fig tree
The unjust steward
The unjust judge
The wheat and tares
The Good Samaritan
The 10 lepers

And then there are the writings of Paul. Corrections to the specific churches who were letting old Judiasm creep back into the current church.

The book of Revelations: The End of Days

Matthew 25 has 3 parables that I love:

1. The ten virgins
2. The talents
3 The sheeps and the goats

Romans speaks of faith.
James speaks of works.

Peter speaks of preaching the gospel to the dead.

Did you have something in mind?

 

[pknopp]

About what?

It says a lot of things.

From memory...just the N.T.

The four gospels are the teachings of Christ.

There is the Sermon on the Mount (Matt 5-7).

There are tons of parables:

The prodigal son
The parable of the fig tree
The unjust steward
The unjust judge
The wheat and tares
The Good Samaritan
The 10 lepers

And then there are the writings of Paul. Corrections to the specific churches who were letting old Judiasm creep back into the current church.

The book of Revelations: The End of Days

Matthew 25 has 3 parables that I love:

1. The ten virgins
2. The talents
3 The sheeps and the goats

Romans speaks of faith.
James speaks of works.

Peter speaks of preaching the gospel to the dead.

Did you have something in mind?

Not really. I believe in the teachings of Christ.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Not really. I believe in the teachings of Christ.

James 2:19 says the devils also believe.

Are you telling me you are a devil.

Or do you do more than just believe? Do you think you should do more?

Hence my question about Christians.

I have always been taught that the parable of the ten virgins is about believers. There were five "foolish" believers who probably believed more than they practiced.