Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

[Rosy]

You can ban assault weapons but an idiot killing people and burning their college is still an idiot

‘It’s just horrifying’: Seven killed in Australia’s deadliest mass shooting in 22 years

An Australian community is reeling from the deadliest mass shooting the country has seen in more than 20 years, after seven people, including four children, were discovered dead on a rural property near Margaret River.

Authorities in Western Australia responded early Friday morning to a home in Osmington, not far from Perth, where the four children and three adults were found dead from gunshot wounds, according to local news reports.

The shooting has rattled Australia, where lawmakers passed some of the world's most restrictive gun-control laws after a 1996 massacre in Tasmania.

“ 'Shocking' is about the only word,” resident Felicity Haynes told 9 News Australia. “I just feel sick to the stomach. That couldn't happen here.”

[‘AMERICAN NIGHTMARE’: Australians react to fatal police shooting in ‘very risky’ United States]

Western Australia police commissioner Chris Dawson said at a news conference that officers responded to the scene about 5:15 a.m. and discovered the seven bodies. Two adults were outside, and five other victims were inside the home in Osmington, a small town nestled in Western Australia's southwest corner.

 

[cnm]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

 

[Lewdog]

Did the OP read what they posted?

"An Australian community is reeling from the deadliest mass shooting the country has seen in more than 20 years, after seven people, including four children, were discovered dead on a rural property near Margaret River."

Now I know reasoning skills can be problematic when people go looking for information to support their already cemented opinion, but if Australia's strict guns laws weren't working, then why would there be a 20 year stretch in between this shooting and the last one?

 

[Brain357]

Did the OP read what they posted?

"An Australian community is reeling from the deadliest mass shooting the country has seen in more than 20 years, after seven people, including four children, were discovered dead on a rural property near Margaret River."

Now I know reasoning skills can be problematic when people go looking for information to support their already cemented opinion, but if Australia's strict guns laws weren't working, then why would there be a 20 year stretch in between this shooting and the last one?

Seems like we have had so many worse mass shootings in the last 20 years...heck just this year.

 

[skye]

I'm reading it was a domestic dispute.

 

[skye]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

In domestic disputes anything goes, so to speak.... knives, baseball bats, etc, even hands....so

I don't blame the gun.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

What a bummer....why couldn't they be Abos or Muslims?

 

[cnm]

I don't blame the gun.

Do you blame the gun in other categories?

 

[Rustic]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

 

[Brain357]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

 

[skye]

I don't blame the gun.

Do you blame the gun in other categories?

No.

 

[Rustic]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

 

[Brain357]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

 

[2aguy]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

Please explain how an island nation like Australia has more gun crime after they banned and confiscated guns......

 

[Rustic]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

Lol
you say more frivolous gun control laws means no more crime, Because criminals do obey laws... right?

 

[2aguy]

Mass shooting in Australia, gun control there is FAILING

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

More gun crime in Australia.....

Gun city: Young, dumb and armed

The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.

These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city.

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Despite Australia’s strict gun control regime, criminals are now better armed than at any time since then-Prime Minister John Howard introduced a nationwide firearm buyback scheme in response to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre.

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five year

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While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

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These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.

“It used to be that if you were involved in something bad you might have to worry about [being shot]. Now people get shot over nothing - unprovoked.”

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Gun crime soars
In this series, Fairfax Media looks at Melbourne’s gun problem and the new breed of criminals behind the escalating violence.

The investigation has found:

• There have been at least 99 shootings in the past 20 months - more than one incident a week since January 2015
• Known criminals were caught with firearms 755 times last year, compared to 143 times in 2011
• The epicentre of the problem is a triangle between Coolaroo, Campbellfield and Glenroy in the north-west, with Cranbourne, Narre Warren and Dandenong in the south-east close behind
• Criminals are using gunshot wounds to the arms and legs as warnings to pay debts
• Assault rifles and handguns are being smuggled into Australia via shipments of electronics and metal parts

In response to the violence, it can be revealed the state government is planning to introduce new criminal offences for drive-by shootings, manufacturing of firearms with new technologies such as 3D printers, and more police powers to keep weapons out of the hands of known criminals.
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The second part of the series....
Gun city: Gunslingers of the North West


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'Thousands' of illegal guns tipped to be handed over in firearms amnesty

Asked roughly how many he expected to be handed in, Mr Keenan said: "Look I certainly think the number will be in the thousands."

The Australian Crime Commission estimated in 2012 there were at least 250,000 illegal guns in Australia. But a Senate report noted last year it was impossible to estimate how many illicit weapons are out there.


And despite Australia's strict border controls, the smuggling of high-powered military-style firearms is also a growing problem.

 

[Brain357]

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

Lol
you say more frivolous gun control laws means no more crime, Because criminals do obey laws... right?

You continue to make things up. Please link to back up your claim.

 

[Brain357]

One can tell that because the US has a firearm homicide rate 25 times greater than in Australia.

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

Please explain how an island nation like Australia has more gun crime after they banned and confiscated guns......

 

[2aguy]

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

Please explain how an island nation like Australia has more gun crime after they banned and confiscated guns......

brainless.......my article on the increase in gun crime is from 2016.....notice where your dumb chart ends? An influx of immigrant criminals is driving the gun crime in Australia, not law abiding Australians who wouldn't use guns for crime...

And here, where more Americans now own and actually carry guns?

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[2aguy]

According to you shit stains gun control means zero gun violence, Fortunately anti-gun nutters have no credibility...

I've never heard anyone say gun control means zero gun violence actually. Glad you are still being dishonest!

You’re the ones that said more frivolous gun control laws means no violent crime...

Please link where anyone has ever said gun control laws mean NO violent crime. I'll be waiting.

Please explain how an island nation like Australia has more gun crime after they banned and confiscated guns......

Dipshit...you need to extend your graph...

Shootings have become almost a weekly occurrence, with more than 125 people, mostly young men, wounded in the past five years.

While the body count was higher during Melbourne’s ‘Underbelly War’ (1999-2005), more people have been seriously maimed in the recent spate of shootings and reprisals.

Crimes associated with firearm possession have also more than doubled, driven by the easy availability of handguns, semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and, increasingly, machine guns, that are smuggled into the country or stolen from licensed owners.

These weapons have been used in dozens of recent drive-by shootings of homes and businesses, as well as targeted and random attacks in parks, shopping centres and roads.

“They’re young, dumb and armed,” said one former underworld associate, who survived a shooting attempt in the western suburbs several years ago.