Mass school shootings since 1966, 56years? 13….

[rightwinger]

Always trying to twist to make each tiny bit that little bit not so horrendous. Pillock

2aguy cherry-picks his statistics to make them individually not that bad while collectively they are horrendous

 

[eagle1462010]

Why only schools?

Why do you ignore mass shootings in movie theaters, supermarkets, malls, nightclubs, concerts, churches, restaurants?

Because your lying ass ........fitting symbol of the dnc...........has been using 27 school shootings last year to get ratings......

Which is a complete LIE.

 

[eagle1462010]

2aguy cherry-picks his statistics to make them individually not that bad while collectively they are horrendous

And you cherry pick to make it sound like a school has a mass shooting twice a month.

Media is hyping that shit up now.............And it's LIES.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[jbander]

The accurate, honest count of mass school shootings some 1966

of the 26 previous shootings involved disputes between students in parking lots, or after athletic events, and all of them resulted in one or zero deaths. These deaths are still incredibly tragic, of course. But they are fundamentally unlike what happened in Uvalde.
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These crimes claimed the lives of 146 people in total.

There Have Been 13 Mass School Shootings Since 1966, Not 27 This Year

Don't conflate mass shootings with school shootings.

reason.com

Deer kill 200 people every year

Ladders kill 300 people every year

Bath tubs kill 350

Knives over 1,500

Cars over 39,000

This tops stupid! 146 dead in mass shooting since 1966, kiss off

 

[jbander]

The accurate, honest count of mass school shootings some 1966

of the 26 previous shootings involved disputes between students in parking lots, or after athletic events, and all of them resulted in one or zero deaths. These deaths are still incredibly tragic, of course. But they are fundamentally unlike what happened in Uvalde.
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These crimes claimed the lives of 146 people in total.

There Have Been 13 Mass School Shootings Since 1966, Not 27 This Year

Don't conflate mass shootings with school shootings.

reason.com

Deer kill 200 people every year

Ladders kill 300 people every year

Bath tubs kill 350

Knives over 1,500

Cars over 39,000

The U.S. has surpassed 200 mass shootings this year​

The Gun Violence Archive, an independent data collection organization, has counted 212 mass shootings that have occurred so far this year, as of Tuesday. It defines a mass shooting as an incident in which four or more people were shot or killed, excluding the shooter.


Data on the mass shootings that have occurred so far this year can be found here.


The U.S. ended 2021 with 693 mass shootings, per the Gun Violence Archive. The year before saw 611. And 2019 had 417.


As for school shootings, according to Education Week, 2021 had 34 such incidents at educational institutions (the highest since the organization started its database). In 2020, there were 10 shootings. Both 2019 and 2018 recorded 24 shootings.
If the right opens their mouth it\s a lier or distortion.

 

[2aguy]

The U.S. has surpassed 200 mass shootings this year​

The Gun Violence Archive, an independent data collection organization, has counted 212 mass shootings that have occurred so far this year, as of Tuesday. It defines a mass shooting as an incident in which four or more people were shot or killed, excluding the shooter.


Data on the mass shootings that have occurred so far this year can be found here.


The U.S. ended 2021 with 693 mass shootings, per the Gun Violence Archive. The year before saw 611. And 2019 had 417.


As for school shootings, according to Education Week, 2021 had 34 such incidents at educational institutions (the highest since the organization started its database). In 2020, there were 10 shootings. Both 2019 and 2018 recorded 24 shootings.
If the right opens their mouth it\s a lier or distortion.

No...we haven't...that is a lie......

The Gun Violence Archive lies...they throw in gang shootings.....those are not mass public shootings......

Mother Jones uses the FBI definition of a mass public shooting....

There were 6 last year, total killed 43...

Deer kill 200 people a year

Ladders kill 300

lawn mowers between 90-100 people

Cars over 39,000

As to school shootings?

He points out that the reason for hyping such big numbers and making it sound like the loss of life in South Texas is the norm is mixing up three terms that the media conflates: school shooting, mass shooting, and mass school shooting. They do all sound similar, but there are distinctions.

Soave explains:

The difference is significant. Education Week, which tracks all school shootings, defines them as incidents in which a person other than the suspect suffers a bullet wound on school property. Many of the 26 previous shootings involved disputes between students in parking lots, or after athletic events, and all of them resulted in one or zero deaths. These deaths are still incredibly tragic, of course. But they are fundamentally unlike what happened in Uvalde.
Uvalde is a mass school shooting. This is defined in different ways too: an incident in which at least four people (some counters make it three) are shot and/or killed. The Gun Violence Archive counts incidents in which at least four people were shot. Under this definition, many incidents of street crime and domestic violence count as mass shootings, even if no deaths result. A stricter tally of mass school shootings, conducted by criminologists for Scientific American, only includes incidents where the shootings resulted in at least four deaths. Using their criteria, the number of mass school shootings in the U.S. since the year 1966 is 13. These crimes claimed the lives of 146 people in total.

How (and Why) the Media Deliberately Inflates the Numbers on School Shootings

Gang bangers getting shot on a Saturday night playing basketball on the school hoops is not a school shooting, you idiot....

 

[jbander]

No...we haven't...that is a lie......

The Gun Violence Archive lies...they throw in gang shootings.....those are not mass public shootings......

Mother Jones uses the FBI definition of a mass public shooting....

There were 6 last year, total killed 43...

Deer kill 200 people a year

Ladders kill 300

lawn mowers between 90-100 people

Cars over 39,000

As to school shootings?

He points out that the reason for hyping such big numbers and making it sound like the loss of life in South Texas is the norm is mixing up three terms that the media conflates: school shooting, mass shooting, and mass school shooting. They do all sound similar, but there are distinctions.

Soave explains:




Gang bangers getting shot on a Saturday night playing basketball on the school hoops is not a school shooting, you idiot....

Screw you, I don't give a damn what group kills to make it a mass shooting. It means at least 4 people were shot, that how it is judged, and that is just another gun use in a mass shooting. Like I give a fuck who shooting. What an idiot.

 

[jbander]

 

[2aguy]

Screw you, I don't give a damn what group kills to make it a mass shooting. It means at least 4 people were shot, that how it is judged, and that is just another gun use in a mass shooting. Like I give a fuck who shooting. What an idiot.

No, it isn't....

If someone tries to rob you and you point a gun them and they run away.....the robbery didn't happen......dittos a mass public shooting....

They don't have a category of "attempted mass public shooting." If they did, you would have a point....

 

[2aguy]

View attachment 652923

To the moderators....just answering his post.......

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.) Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation




330 million Americans......how many committed mass public shootings in 2021....

6

How many did they murder....

43

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...

So....6 people in a country of over 330 million committed mass public shootings....and for this, you think we should ban 600 million guns...?


Total number of people killed in mass public shootings by year...


2021...43
2020....5
2019....73
2018.....93
2017........117
2016......71
2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994....5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1986...15
1985...(none listed)
1984...28
1983 (none listed)
1982...8

 

[rightwinger]

Screw you, I don't give a damn what group kills to make it a mass shooting. It means at least 4 people were shot, that how it is judged, and that is just another gun use in a mass shooting. Like I give a fuck who shooting. What an idiot.

That is the way 2aguy operates

Divide gun killings into smaller groups and then throw out things that he says don’t count

Suicides don’t count
Gangs don’t count
Handguns don’t count

 

[surada]

Yeah.....but they aren't school shootings...so when someone includes them in school shootings, they are doing so as a lie.....in order to lie to uninformed people...

Do you remember the tower shooting on campus in 1966?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Republicans are acting like fortifying our schools is a solution to mass shootings

But mass shooters are a creative bunch and have shown they are willing to start firing anywhere that people congregate

The key is keeping guns out of the hands of crazies

After the shooting, all friends and family say it was only a matter of time

Why wait until it is too late?

It's the only solution. Creating more gun laws will never work. Too many guns

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Screw you, I don't give a damn what group kills to make it a mass shooting. It means at least 4 people were shot, that how it is judged, and that is just another gun use in a mass shooting. Like I give a fuck who shooting. What an idiot.

Take gang bangers off the street you end most mass shootings so it does matter.

 

[2aguy]

Do you remember the tower shooting on campus in 1966?

Yeah......students ran out to their cars and got their rifles....and fired at the shooter to force him to stop shooting people..........then the police arrived...

Thanks for pointing out that armed citizens with rifles saved lives that day...

The Armed Civilian Who Helped Stop UT’s Tower Sniper 50 Years Ago

“You’re damn right we’re playing for keeps,” Martinez later recalled answering.
“Well, you better deputize me,” the man said.
Then, it was clear. The man with Martinez wasn’t a plainclothes officer. He was a civilian — Allen Crum, one of many who armed themselves on Aug. 1, 1966, in an effort to stop the first mass shooting at an American university.


Regular people from all over Austin had grabbed their guns from their trucks or homes that day and rushed to campus to fire at Whitman from the ground. Their bullets pelted the tower, kicking up clouds of limestone.


At times, witnesses said, the campus felt like a war zone, but with armed frat boys and hunting enthusiasts instead of soldiers.


It was in essence what gun rights activists would yearn for decades later whenever a new mass shooting shocked the nation — multiple “good guys with guns” trying to end the violence. That kind of thinking helped inspire state legislators to pass a law in 2015 allowing people to take guns into university buildings in Texas. The law goes into effect Aug. 1, exactly 50 years after Whitman’s rampage.
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Eye witness accounts of civilians with rifles stopping whitman...

96 Minutes


CLIF DRUMMOND was a senior and the student body president. He is a high-tech executive in Austin.
Students with deer rifles were leaning up against telephone poles, using the pole, which is rather narrow, as their shield. And they were firing like crazy back at the Tower.


FORREST PREECE was a junior. A retired advertising executive, he lives in Austin.
I saw two guys in white shirts and slacks running across the lawn of the Pi Phi house, hustling up to its porch with rifles at the ready. Someone was yelling, “Keep down, man. Keep down!”


BRENDA BELL: I don’t know where these vigilantes came from, but they took over Parlin Hall and were crashing around, firing guns. There was massive testosterone.


J. M. COETZEE was a Ph.D. candidate in English literature and linguistics. A novelist who won the 2003 Nobel Prize for literature, he lives in Adelaide, Australia.

I hadn’t fully comprehended that lots of people around me in Austin not only owned guns but had them close at hand and regarded themselves as free to use them.


BILL HELMER: I remember thinking, “All we need is a bunch of idiots running around with rifles.”

But what they did turned out to be brilliant. Once he could no longer lean over the edge and fire, he was much more limited in what he could do. He had to shoot through those drain spouts, or he had to pop up real fast and then dive down again. That’s why he did most of his damage in the first twenty minutes.

 

[2aguy]

That is the way 2aguy operates

Divide gun killings into smaller groups and then throw out things that he says don’t count

Suicides don’t count
Gangs don’t count
Handguns don’t count

No...they don't count as mass public shootings......

You want them to count even though suicides are mental health issues, and gangs shooting at other gang members are a different crime and different solution...mainly, keeping them in prison, instead of the democrats letting them back out over and over again, no matter how often they are arrested and jailed for gun crimes.....

 

[jbander]

That is the way 2aguy operates

Divide gun killings into smaller groups and then throw out things that he says don’t count

Suicides don’t count
Gangs don’t count
Handguns don’t count

Stupid. Regulate the shit out of them. Rule number one, keep them out of the hands of any group that supports the take-over of this country to force in a piece of shit for a dictator. Rule number two, take the guns away from the supporters of that want to be dictator. We have to be blithering idiots not to do that. They have no rights, you can't be in support of or any part of destroying our country and democracy and still be able to get a gun.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No...they don't count as mass public shootings......

You want them to count even though suicides are mental health issues, and gangs shooting at other gang members are a different crime and different solution...mainly, keeping them in prison, instead of the democrats letting them back out over and over again, no matter how often they are arrested and jailed for gun crimes.....

Leftists redefined what mass shooting is around Obama's second term.

 

[jbander]

No, it isn't....

If someone tries to rob you and you point a gun them and they run away.....the robbery didn't happen......dittos a mass public shooting....

They don't have a category of "attempted mass public shooting." If they did, you would have a point....

What the hell are you even talking about. Goofballs, all of you.