Martial Law...Would you support Trump taking such measure?

[Mac1958]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

...No, your belief is not in line with Christianity. And you can drop that no one can judge you every time you get shown how un Christ like your position is. I cannot sentence you to hell, that's the judgement. But I can disagree with what you believe and can point out where it's ungodly. There are no such thing as open or closed borders in the bible. Jesus does not say to deny your fellow human opportunity because they did not ask permission to enter.

And you had better take a real hard long look at the bible Pharisee, because whites did not ask permission, apply for asylum or fill out immigration papers to come here. This government does not have the right to deny entry to descendants of nations that were already here when whites were allowed to enter freely.

You need to gain a better understanding of spiritual law because let what you believe continue and you will learn in high definition what a judgment from god on a nation really is.

There is more that is accurate than inaccurate, concerning your portrayal of Christian teachings, in relation to Immigration.

Trouble is, Jesus of Nazareth and his Apostles...

• were citizens of a country under extended military occupation and they had no responsibility for governance
• lived in a world that was nearly empty in comparison with population levels today
• were not being swamped by Egyptians and Canaanites and Moabites and Samaritans looking for work and benefits in Judea
• did not see their carpentry and fishing trades suffer depressed wages due to an oversupply of labor thanks to Illegal Aliens

...and on and on and on.

It's quite true that, if such a benevolent God exists, I will have much to answer for, with respect to my hard-line stance on Illegal Aliens.

I am prepared to hear that judgment when the time comes.

Meanwhile, I have to live here on Earth, and I have to protect my little piece of it - from the Rio Grande to the Canadian border.

I'll shoulder that burden if-and-when the Good Lord decides to take me to task over it.

Until then...

I refuse to be schooled by Liberals who trot-out Christian doctrine when it suits then, and ignore it re: abortion and other sick practices.

What you refuse to be means nothing to me since I personally am not for abortion, and what conservatives believe is so far from godly that it borders on satanic.

Let me guess. You are "personally" not for abortion but you support and vote for candidates who are. So, in all ways but lip service, you are for abortion.

Not exactly. Unlike you, I don't vote straight party line. And I do think that a person has the right to choose. Abortion was a choice I never made or supported. Therefore I consistently used protection during my active sexual years. You conservatives believe you know everything about so called liberals. You know nothing and you guessed wrong.

I doubt you have voted Republican once in your life... Sure you might have voted Green or Communist Party which is just the fringe left of the Democratic Party but I am willing to bet a dollar you never voted Republican or Libertarian...

So with that you are for weaker border enforcement and prefer to use the plight of illegals for political gain...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

You do know believe Southerners would feel great shame because of the North and South war, so let just say you might be wrong about the talk radio listening crowd about feeling it also...

 

[Mac1958]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

You do know believe Southerners would feel great shame because of the North and South war, so let just say you might be wrong about the talk radio listening crowd about feeling it also...

I certainly can't say it's 100% of them. But the guy I quoted is an example of the loudest voices right now, and that's a problem.
.

 

[dblack]

Is there really any other way to regain control of federal law and restore order?
Do you really see Americans taking their country back by way of standard operating procedures through the bureaucracy?

I know the notion of such aggressive action scares the piss out of you “give me liberty or give me death” types...but stop and think for a second...you are losing you liberties to the AOC’s and the commie-lites one day at a time anyhoo.

P.S.- Don’t let this thread scare the piss out of you...there is no topic on this board that is more POLITICAL than this.

Fuck you.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

Interesting. You do realize the Left tried to set up a similar system of talk radio, and it failed completely. No one listened.

Reference Air America, for example.

 

[IM2]

No, your belief is not in line with Christianity. And you can drop that no one can judge you every time you get shown how un Christ like your position is. I cannot sentence you to hell, that's the judgement. But I can disagree with what you believe and can point out where it's ungodly. There are no such thing as open or closed borders in the bible. Jesus does not say to deny your fellow human opportunity because they did not ask permission to enter.

And you had better take a real hard long look at the bible Pharisee, because whites did not ask permission, apply for asylum or fill out immigration papers to come here. This government does not have the right to deny entry to descendants of nations that were already here when whites were allowed to enter freely.

You need to gain a better understanding of spiritual law because let what you believe continue and you will learn in high definition what a judgment from god on a nation really is.

As for my "ungodly" position: I have already said I participate in a program that feeds illegal immigrants right here in my community for free. So, I am feeding my poor neighbors. Now, do I endorse letting people into our borders as illegal immigrants? No. Because they are taking our services and our tax money illegally.

There is nothing in that, NOTHING, that is unbiblical. In fact that is right in line with Christianity. I am feeding the poor, my neighbors, and not withholding from them because of what they have done. On the other hand, I DO think our nation should have border laws that should be upheld.

Most Americans, btw, agree with me, Christian or no. You realize you are vastly on the losing end of this. You realize that most BLACK Americans agree with me, I hope.

Most Americans don't agree with you. First off there are no open borders. Secondly whites were allowed to come here and stay by the nations already here. The belief that you can impose standards for others entering when this is the case is ungodly itself. So as you keep watching the increases in the number of natural disasters hitting this country, you keep on thinking that what you believe is godly.

Harvard Poll--HARVARD. 8/10 Americans want secure borders. Only 2 out of 10 want open borders. You can read that and weep. And if you REALLY think God is judging us for borders and not rampant sin everywhere else....well....you go ahead. But remember what the Bible said the most serious sins are.

Harvard-Harris Poll: What The Latest Immigration Polls Do (And Don't) Say

There are no open borders. Understand?

Oh, but that's what you are advocating, and make no mistake. And that I do not advocate for them means that "I'm not being Christian".

Let me be clear: this is why Trump is on his way to a second term

There are no open borders and biblically whites were allowed to enter this nation freely and because of that you have no right to place conditions on others. I know that you don't really understand the bible and that you are a few years younger than me, so perhaps with increased study over the upcoming years you might understand what I am saying.

Let us be very clear here, if Trump continues down the road of racism couched as immigration and open borders, he will get voted out of office.

 

[NoNukes]

Is there really any other way to regain control of federal law and restore order?
Do you really see Americans taking their country back by way of standard operating procedures through the bureaucracy?

I know the notion of such aggressive action scares the piss out of you “give me liberty or give me death” types...but stop and think for a second...you are losing you liberties to the AOC’s and the commie-lites one day at a time anyhoo.

P.S.- Don’t let this thread scare the piss out of you...there is no topic on this board that is more POLITICAL than this.

your premise is not just false but crazy talk,,,
since when has trump pushed fed law as per the constitution???

most of what hes done is in violation of the constitution

You Mexicrats have leveraged federal law to a point where it has no teeth...What good is law / authority that can’t be imposed or be effective?

What good is the law if the President defies it?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

You do know believe Southerners would feel great shame because of the North and South war, so let just say you might be wrong about the talk radio listening crowd about feeling it also...

I certainly can't say it's 100% of them. But the guy I quoted is an example of the loudest voices right now, and that's a problem.
.

They have been screaming like that since the day this country was founded and most of them shut up when confronted with the reality their shotgun might take a few out but in the end the Government has the bigger guns...

I say let encourage them and watch them charge the tanks while we drink our wine and watch Rome burn my dear Nero.

 

[IM2]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

Interesting. You do realize the Left tried to set up a similar system of talk radio, and it failed completely. No one listened.

Reference Air America, for example.

Actually they did not. Most liberal stations are on satellite.

 

[Kondor3]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

If Martial Law is declared, neither you nor your gun(s) will be involved, unless you are on Active Duty with the US Armed Forces at the time.

 

[Kondor3]

...Actually they did not. Most liberal stations are on satellite.

Which is the only way most of them can get any airtime at all...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

Interesting. You do realize the Left tried to set up a similar system of talk radio, and it failed completely. No one listened.

Reference Air America, for example.

Actually they did not. Most liberal stations are on satellite.

Actually, they did. I'm not talking about the means, but the effort.

Easy reading -

Progressive talk radio - Wikipedia

 

[Mac1958]

It is far past time for martial law, We all have guns and know how to use them, I'm just waiting till someone starts the ball rolling, I've already picked my side.

^^^ One day we'll look back and see what talk radio created. My guess is that they will realize that the manic, closed circuit, alternate ideological universe they spawned and nurtured for their own gain went too far, where it will fit in a historical perspective, and that they'll feel great shame.

Or, I guess, maybe they won't.
.

Interesting. You do realize the Left tried to set up a similar system of talk radio, and it failed completely. No one listened.

Reference Air America, for example.

Sure, yes. Obviously the two groups use different resources.
.

 

[Kondor3]

...What you refuse to be means nothing to me since I personally am not for abortion, and what conservatives believe is so far from godly that it borders on satanic.

Nothing of substance by way of refutation... pretty much what I expected...

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Don't you know, you bleached blondie type with bibbles that you can screw any man you please? Why do you think that the rest of us should be involved in your sordid lifestyles? Spread your legs for anyone you want, according to your "bible."

Can anyone help me envision the passages in the Bible where it says it's okay to "spread your legs for anyone you want" and endorses sordid lifestyles?

Are you drunk or crazy Hysteria? Or both?

Also me a bleached blonde.

You're too old to be this dumb.

Apparently that's what you believe is OK since you excuse that in Trump. while claiming to be so godly

Oh no sweetheart, I have never said that is okay in Trump. In fact I have said many times in this forum that he would be a terrible husband or son-in-law. But see, I didn't vote for him for husband or son in law. That's where Leftists like you are so confused. You see politicians as IDOLS and not in the positions they really are. He is president, not idol. As president he's doing a good job. Not perfect, but good. That's for starters.

For enders, you tried to call me out on immigration yesterday and I told you in no uncertain terms that my behavior is in fact in line with Christianity. Does this make me "godly", that is for Christ to judge. Not me, and not you. My personal behavior to poor immigrants does not mean that I have to endorse open borders for our nation. Too bad, so sad for you.

No, your belief is not in line with Christianity. And you can drop that no one can judge you every time you get shown how un Christ like your position is. I cannot sentence you to hell, that's the judgement. But I can disagree with what you believe and can point out where it's ungodly. There are no such thing as open or closed borders in the bible. Jesus does not say to deny your fellow human opportunity because they did not ask permission to enter.

And you had better take a real hard long look at the bible Pharisee, because whites did not ask permission, apply for asylum or fill out immigration papers to come here. This government does not have the right to deny entry to descendants of nations that were already here when whites were allowed to enter freely.

You need to gain a better understanding of spiritual law because let what you believe continue and you will learn in high definition what a judgment from god on a nation really is.

As for my "ungodly" position: I have already said I participate in a program that feeds illegal immigrants right here in my community for free. So, I am feeding my poor neighbors. Now, do I endorse letting people into our borders as illegal immigrants? No. Because they are taking our services and our tax money illegally.

There is nothing in that, NOTHING, that is unbiblical. In fact that is right in line with Christianity. I am feeding the poor, my neighbors, and not withholding from them because of what they have done. On the other hand, I DO think our nation should have border laws that should be upheld.

Most Americans, btw, agree with me, Christian or no. You realize you are vastly on the losing end of this. You realize that most BLACK Americans agree with me, I hope.

Sadly, you are wrong on all counts.

Whereas Congress was never granted the authority to say who may or may not come into any given state to do business (i.e. guest workers and temporary workers), no law justifies what the right is doing.... and I am a constitutionalist.

If not for an illegal act by the United States Supreme Court, there would not be feds feeding the nonexistent "illegal immigrant" dog fight. Those who do not want them here would cease and desist enabling them to come here. You enable undocumented foreigners by doing business with those that hire foreigners; you do it by selling to them; you do it by renting to them.

Most of all, undocumented foreigners DO pay taxes and when they do and they get the deductions when filing a tax return, the right still bitches. Quite frankly, I applauded the fact that their presence might help in destroying the income tax - a plank out of the Communist Manifesto. BTW, that is the ONLY tax you can remotely claim they don't pay; however, the head monkey - the Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration disagrees with you.

Finally, if you look at demographics, left wing third worlders are turning America left. Once Trump leaves office, America is going to take a far left turn. "Conservative" whites who are buying into One World Government propaganda are dying off; whites (the posterity of the founders) are not reproducing and the majority of Americans do not support the nutty wall idea as is.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Who threatened riots, miss bleached-bloundie with a bibble? Just because you love some sex pig and I don't

bloundie--what is that?

bibble--what is that?

I love it when you all draw cartoon characters about me, it's ever entertaining. Keep goin

Don't you know, you bleached blondie type with bibbles that you can screw any man you please? Why do you think that the rest of us should be involved in your sordid lifestyles? Spread your legs for anyone you want, according to your "bible."

Can anyone help me envision the passages in the Bible where it says it's okay to "spread your legs for anyone you want" and endorses sordid lifestyles?

Are you drunk or crazy Hysteria? Or both?

Also me a bleached blonde.

You're too old to be this dumb.

Apparently that's what you believe is OK since you excuse that in Trump. while claiming to be so godly

Oh no sweetheart, I have never said that is okay in Trump. In fact I have said many times in this forum that he would be a terrible husband or son-in-law. But see, I didn't vote for him for husband or son in law. That's where Leftists like you are so confused. You see politicians as IDOLS and not in the positions they really are. He is president, not idol. As president he's doing a good job. Not perfect, but good. That's for starters.

For enders, you tried to call me out on immigration yesterday and I told you in no uncertain terms that my behavior is in fact in line with Christianity. Does this make me "godly", that is for Christ to judge. Not me, and not you. My personal behavior to poor immigrants does not mean that I have to endorse open borders for our nation. Too bad, so sad for you.

Even in the Bible, our leaders are to meet a certain standard. Donald Trump, the most anti - gun president in United States history does not meet that standard.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

1 of her vs. Everybody losing freedom? Fuck off with that.

You freedom nuts are losing freedom everyday...Weird that you don’t see it.
What freedoms were lost when martial law was applied in the past? I’ll stand by while you google that shit.

For starters, the Constitution would be suspended. The Bill of Rights would be suspended, There would be a curfew and free movement and travel would be forbidden. You could be arrested for any reason or no reason at all. That's what the Jade Helm 2015 exercise was all about - practicing for the military taking control of everything in the country. Things are getting bad in the country but at the present time a military takeover wouldn't be pleasant.

Link?
I get it, this scares the shit out of of dooms day thinkers and conspiracy theory whacks.
Under martial law specific directives can be utilized...I really don’t see martial law being levied against the people like that..there is really no motive for it.....I see it being used to stop and identify wetbacks and to put deportations on the fast track.

The illegal immigration problem would be solved if Congress would get off their ass and pass the laws and build the wall. Martial law is not the solution. Also I hate illegal immigrants too.

Hell, the illegal immigration problem would be solved if Congress just got off their asses and attended their business instead of obstructing law enforcement from enforcing laws already on the books.

What laws are you claiming are not being enforced?

 

[IM2]

Can anyone help me envision the passages in the Bible where it says it's okay to "spread your legs for anyone you want" and endorses sordid lifestyles?

Are you drunk or crazy Hysteria? Or both?

Also me a bleached blonde.

You're too old to be this dumb.

Apparently that's what you believe is OK since you excuse that in Trump. while claiming to be so godly

Oh no sweetheart, I have never said that is okay in Trump. In fact I have said many times in this forum that he would be a terrible husband or son-in-law. But see, I didn't vote for him for husband or son in law. That's where Leftists like you are so confused. You see politicians as IDOLS and not in the positions they really are. He is president, not idol. As president he's doing a good job. Not perfect, but good. That's for starters.

For enders, you tried to call me out on immigration yesterday and I told you in no uncertain terms that my behavior is in fact in line with Christianity. Does this make me "godly", that is for Christ to judge. Not me, and not you. My personal behavior to poor immigrants does not mean that I have to endorse open borders for our nation. Too bad, so sad for you.

No, your belief is not in line with Christianity. And you can drop that no one can judge you every time you get shown how un Christ like your position is. I cannot sentence you to hell, that's the judgement. But I can disagree with what you believe and can point out where it's ungodly. There are no such thing as open or closed borders in the bible. Jesus does not say to deny your fellow human opportunity because they did not ask permission to enter.

And you had better take a real hard long look at the bible Pharisee, because whites did not ask permission, apply for asylum or fill out immigration papers to come here. This government does not have the right to deny entry to descendants of nations that were already here when whites were allowed to enter freely.

You need to gain a better understanding of spiritual law because let what you believe continue and you will learn in high definition what a judgment from god on a nation really is.

As for my "ungodly" position: I have already said I participate in a program that feeds illegal immigrants right here in my community for free. So, I am feeding my poor neighbors. Now, do I endorse letting people into our borders as illegal immigrants? No. Because they are taking our services and our tax money illegally.

There is nothing in that, NOTHING, that is unbiblical. In fact that is right in line with Christianity. I am feeding the poor, my neighbors, and not withholding from them because of what they have done. On the other hand, I DO think our nation should have border laws that should be upheld.

Most Americans, btw, agree with me, Christian or no. You realize you are vastly on the losing end of this. You realize that most BLACK Americans agree with me, I hope.

Sadly, you are wrong on all counts.

Whereas Congress was never granted the authority to say who may or may not come into any given state to do business (i.e. guest workers and temporary workers), no law justifies what the right is doing.... and I am a constitutionalist.

If not for an illegal act by the United States Supreme Court, there would not be feds feeding the nonexistent "illegal immigrant" dog fight. Those who do not want them here would cease and desist enabling them to come here. You enable undocumented foreigners by doing business with those that hire foreigners; you do it by selling to them; you do it by renting to them.

Most of all, undocumented foreigners DO pay taxes and when they do and they get the deductions when filing a tax return, the right still bitches. Quite frankly, I applauded the fact that their presence might help in destroying the income tax - a plank out of the Communist Manifesto. BTW, that is the ONLY tax you can remotely claim they don't pay; however, the head monkey - the Chief Actuary of the Socialist Security Administration disagrees with you.

Finally, if you look at demographics, left wing third worlders are turning America left. Once Trump leaves office, America is going to take a far left turn. "Conservative" whites who are buying into One World Government propaganda are dying off; whites (the posterity of the founders) are not reproducing and the majority of Americans do not support the nutty wall idea as is.

You are no constitutionalist. You are Oswald Bates giving your opinion on what you choose to believe about the constitution. But I am talking about a greater and more supreme law that supersedes the constitution.

 

[IM2]

bloundie--what is that?

bibble--what is that?

I love it when you all draw cartoon characters about me, it's ever entertaining. Keep goin

Don't you know, you bleached blondie type with bibbles that you can screw any man you please? Why do you think that the rest of us should be involved in your sordid lifestyles? Spread your legs for anyone you want, according to your "bible."

Can anyone help me envision the passages in the Bible where it says it's okay to "spread your legs for anyone you want" and endorses sordid lifestyles?

Are you drunk or crazy Hysteria? Or both?

Also me a bleached blonde.

You're too old to be this dumb.

Apparently that's what you believe is OK since you excuse that in Trump. while claiming to be so godly

Oh no sweetheart, I have never said that is okay in Trump. In fact I have said many times in this forum that he would be a terrible husband or son-in-law. But see, I didn't vote for him for husband or son in law. That's where Leftists like you are so confused. You see politicians as IDOLS and not in the positions they really are. He is president, not idol. As president he's doing a good job. Not perfect, but good. That's for starters.

For enders, you tried to call me out on immigration yesterday and I told you in no uncertain terms that my behavior is in fact in line with Christianity. Does this make me "godly", that is for Christ to judge. Not me, and not you. My personal behavior to poor immigrants does not mean that I have to endorse open borders for our nation. Too bad, so sad for you.

Even in the Bible, our leaders are to meet a certain standard. Donald Trump, the most anti - gun president in United States history does not meet that standard.

The bible is anti gun.