Mark Judge, Key Witness To Alleged Brett Kavanaugh Assault, Refuses To Testify

[edward37]

if you didn't delay there are a few repubs maybe not voting for the repub trump asskisser Without flacks vote to continue there might not of even been a final vote

Might not, but then again, if they never went down that road in the first place and just ignored it, Kavanaugh might be seated today.

you really need another thomas there Can't he find another conservative that might vote with Dems 1 time in 100 votes?

And how many times have the Dems voted with the right?

When we are in charge, we put in our people. When you are in charge, you do the same. You only have one person to thank for the power Republicans have today, and that is Barack Insane Obama. And as he once said, elections have consequences.

Hill was stupid but Comey did her in by releasing the FBI statement.
Kept don the cons records secret.
Don should bless him every day
I love my old white fart bar where nigxxer is every 5 min. All doing great sucking off their socialist SS Medicare benefits and blame Obama for division.
Irony is not their strong suit

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Might not, but then again, if they never went down that road in the first place and just ignored it, Kavanaugh might be seated today.

you really need another thomas there Can't he find another conservative that might vote with Dems 1 time in 100 votes?

And how many times have the Dems voted with the right?

When we are in charge, we put in our people. When you are in charge, you do the same. You only have one person to thank for the power Republicans have today, and that is Barack Insane Obama. And as he once said, elections have consequences.

Hill was stupid but Comey did her in by releasing the FBI statement.
Kept don the cons records secret.
Don should bless him every day
I love my old white fart bar where nigxxer is every 5 min. All doing great sucking off their socialist SS Medicare benefits and blame Obama for division.
Irony is not their strong suit

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

 

[edward37]

you really need another thomas there Can't he find another conservative that might vote with Dems 1 time in 100 votes?

And how many times have the Dems voted with the right?

When we are in charge, we put in our people. When you are in charge, you do the same. You only have one person to thank for the power Republicans have today, and that is Barack Insane Obama. And as he once said, elections have consequences.

Hill was stupid but Comey did her in by releasing the FBI statement.
Kept don the cons records secret.
Don should bless him every day
I love my old white fart bar where nigxxer is every 5 min. All doing great sucking off their socialist SS Medicare benefits and blame Obama for division.
Irony is not their strong suit

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And how many times have the Dems voted with the right?

When we are in charge, we put in our people. When you are in charge, you do the same. You only have one person to thank for the power Republicans have today, and that is Barack Insane Obama. And as he once said, elections have consequences.

Hill was stupid but Comey did her in by releasing the FBI statement.
Kept don the cons records secret.
Don should bless him every day
I love my old white fart bar where nigxxer is every 5 min. All doing great sucking off their socialist SS Medicare benefits and blame Obama for division.
Irony is not their strong suit

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

 

[jillian]

Doubt MSNBC will even mention this letter.


65 women who knew Brett Kavanaugh in high school defend his character
In light of allegations of sexual assault, 65 women say Kavanaugh always “treated women with respect.”

Sixty-five women who knew Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh in high school have testified to his good character in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, in light of recently surfaced allegations that he tried to force himself on a girl during his time at Georgetown Preparatory School, an all-boys school in Bethesda, Maryland.

65 women who knew Brett Kavanaugh in high school defend his character

If he were subpoenaed, he would have had to testify or go to jail. You don’t “ask”

 

[jillian]

Hill was stupid but Comey did her in by releasing the FBI statement.
Kept don the cons records secret.
Don should bless him every day
I love my old white fart bar where nigxxer is every 5 min. All doing great sucking off their socialist SS Medicare benefits and blame Obama for division.
Irony is not their strong suit

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

When social security was started the average life expectancy was 61 or 62 years.

The answer is to raise the age to 68.

Problem solved. Why is this confusing to you?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

When social security was started the average life expectancy was 61 or 62 years.

The answer is to raise the age to 68.

Problem solved. Why is this confusing to you?

Because the people who come up with ideas like that are dress shirts and suit and ties.

Do you want to see a 67 year old man climbing a ladder to a two-story roof with a pack of roof shingles on his shoulders? Do you want to see a 66 year old man carrying cement to a work site for the bricklayers to lay brick? And do you want to see a 67 year old bricklayer laying 8" block for a building? Do you want to see a 67 year old building scaffolding up to 20 stories high, or how about an Iron worker walking on beams 10 stories high?

Hell, I'll even use my own occupation as an example. When I have a 40,000 lbs load on my truck, that means I'm piloting a 75,000 lbs vehicle on the road. Do you want to be in the car in front of my semi when I'm 67 years old and we come to a sudden stop on a snow covered highway?

There are just too many occupations where working into that age is impracticable if not impossible. Either that or extremely dangerous to themselves or others.

So no, working later is not a solution for many people.

 

[edward37]

Hill was stupid but Comey did her in by releasing the FBI statement.
Kept don the cons records secret.
Don should bless him every day
I love my old white fart bar where nigxxer is every 5 min. All doing great sucking off their socialist SS Medicare benefits and blame Obama for division.
Irony is not their strong suit

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

And as our economy improves there'll be more and more robots doing the work and they don't pay into SS Just means there must be a cut off age like 55 where those under don't collect as much

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

When social security was started the average life expectancy was 61 or 62 years.

The answer is to raise the age to 68.

Problem solved. Why is this confusing to you?

The answer is to raise the age to 68.

That fixes the entire shortfall? Link?

 

[edward37]

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

When social security was started the average life expectancy was 61 or 62 years.

The answer is to raise the age to 68.

Problem solved. Why is this confusing to you?

Because the people who come up with ideas like that are dress shirts and suit and ties.

Do you want to see a 67 year old man climbing a ladder to a two-story roof with a pack of roof shingles on his shoulders? Do you want to see a 66 year old man carrying cement to a work site for the bricklayers to lay brick? And do you want to see a 67 year old bricklayer laying 8" block for a building? Do you want to see a 67 year old building scaffolding up to 20 stories high, or how about an Iron worker walking on beams 10 stories high?

Hell, I'll even use my own occupation as an example. When I have a 40,000 lbs load on my truck, that means I'm piloting a 75,000 lbs vehicle on the road. Do you want to be in the car in front of my semi when I'm 67 years old and we come to a sudden stop on a snow covered highway?

There are just too many occupations where working into that age is impracticable if not impossible. Either that or extremely dangerous to themselves or others.

So no, working later is not a solution for many people.

Perhaps you're right BUT working longer than the minimum age will give you more $$ when you start to collect

 

[edward37]

Hill was stupid but Comey did her in by releasing the FBI statement.
Kept don the cons records secret.
Don should bless him every day
I love my old white fart bar where nigxxer is every 5 min. All doing great sucking off their socialist SS Medicare benefits and blame Obama for division.
Irony is not their strong suit

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

BTW hope your health problems are cured no one deserves untimely health problems except trump and the leaders of republican congress

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

When social security was started the average life expectancy was 61 or 62 years.

The answer is to raise the age to 68.

Problem solved. Why is this confusing to you?

Because the people who come up with ideas like that are dress shirts and suit and ties.

Do you want to see a 67 year old man climbing a ladder to a two-story roof with a pack of roof shingles on his shoulders? Do you want to see a 66 year old man carrying cement to a work site for the bricklayers to lay brick? And do you want to see a 67 year old bricklayer laying 8" block for a building? Do you want to see a 67 year old building scaffolding up to 20 stories high, or how about an Iron worker walking on beams 10 stories high?

Hell, I'll even use my own occupation as an example. When I have a 40,000 lbs load on my truck, that means I'm piloting a 75,000 lbs vehicle on the road. Do you want to be in the car in front of my semi when I'm 67 years old and we come to a sudden stop on a snow covered highway?

There are just too many occupations where working into that age is impracticable if not impossible. Either that or extremely dangerous to themselves or others.

So no, working later is not a solution for many people.

Perhaps you're right BUT working longer than the minimum age will give you more $$ when you start to collect

If it doesn't kill you first. I have two cousins each own their own remodeling business. Great when you are younger, but construction is not so great when you get older.

Both are struggling to get to retirement because their bodies are so shot from hard work all of their lives. Talking pills, having surgeries, going to therapy, just to make it to retirement.

So how can they make it any longer if retirement was raised to 68? Most would end up on disability anyway, so what's the point?

I'm only 58, and I'm almost ready for disability myself. Because we are ruled by the federal government, it all depends on if the government doctor allows me to work or not. I'm barely getting by now.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Hil-liar did herself in. The big turn was her deplorable comment. How do you insult nearly half the voters in the country and not expect to lose a race? Don't worry about what Comey did. He joins a list of a half-dozen excuses Hil-Liar used to justify her loss.

People only collect SS and Medicare because they were forced to put into it. What idiot would pay into programs all their lives and not try to get their money back unless they became wealthy? That's like buying a life insurance policy and have no heirs to leave it to.

I'm sure if any of these people you speak about in your bar took their earnings to a reputable investment company, ask what they would be worth today had all that SS money went into a private conservative account all these years, what they would be worth today, would surly not contribute a dime if they could go back in time and not forced into SS.

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

And as our economy improves there'll be more and more robots doing the work and they don't pay into SS Just means there must be a cut off age like 55 where those under don't collect as much

That is going to be the problem in the future, so I'm glad I'll be off this earth by then.

So the end result is we don't have any reasonable solution to all this except for getting rid of SS and replacing it with mandated IRA's. Unlike SS, compound interest makes for a very comfortable retirement after a lifetime of contributions. Like SS, you wouldn't be able to collect until X age, and the best part is if you don't make it until that age, you can leave everything you worked for to your family instead of the government.

 

[edward37]

I've already gotten far more out of SS than I put in and I'll bet most sorry assed republicans will too

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

And as our economy improves there'll be more and more robots doing the work and they don't pay into SS Just means there must be a cut off age like 55 where those under don't collect as much

That is going to be the problem in the future, so I'm glad I'll be off this earth by then.

So the end result is we don't have any reasonable solution to all this except for getting rid of SS and replacing it with mandated IRA's. Unlike SS, compound interest makes for a very comfortable retirement after a lifetime of contributions. Like SS, you wouldn't be able to collect until X age, and the best part is if you don't make it until that age, you can leave everything you worked for to your family instead of the government.

One fly in that ointment is what happens when the bottom drops out of the market and your IRA goes with it as you are at or near retirement age? and not sure of this but doesn't wife collect SS of husband who passed?

 

[AZGAL]

If he were subpoenaed, he would have had to testify or go to jail. You don’t “ask”

I thought all of the resistards were in agreement that this was only a job interview.

 

[edward37]

If he were subpoenaed, he would have had to testify or go to jail. You don’t “ask”

I thought all of the resistards were in agreement that this was only a job interview.

and we all agree the pos failed Now you have 2 republican perverts in the SC Going for 3 soon??

 

[basquebromance]

dear Dr Ford,

i'm a survivor of sexual assault. i want to absorb all your pain. i want to hurt for you so you dont have to deal with what i went through

 

[edward37]

dear Dr Ford,

i'm a survivor of sexual assault. i want to absorb all your pain. i want to hurt for you so you dont have to deal with what i went through

Sorry to hear that Meanwhile Trump feels bad for the men but women will be OK ??

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You did, huh?

Do you do banking with a bank that allows you to deposit less money than you withdraw? Of course not. No bank allows you to do that. Why? Because they would be out of business in a matter of days.

Yet (as you claimed) this is how government operates our retirement accounts: put in less than you take out.

So how does that work compared to private industry?

Let's say banks allows you to buy CD's, have checking and savings accounts, but if you die before you withdraw, they keep it and give it to other people. Would you deal with such an institution?

Well.....you might if you were forced to, and that's how government finances work.

If I pass away before my time, my family gets my IRA account, they get my bank accounts, they get my personal belongings and my rental property goes to my niece and nephew. What they will never see is one red cent of all the money me and my employers contributed to the SS system. That's why people like you collect more than they contributed, and thats' why these systems are going broke just like a bank would.

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

And as our economy improves there'll be more and more robots doing the work and they don't pay into SS Just means there must be a cut off age like 55 where those under don't collect as much

That is going to be the problem in the future, so I'm glad I'll be off this earth by then.

So the end result is we don't have any reasonable solution to all this except for getting rid of SS and replacing it with mandated IRA's. Unlike SS, compound interest makes for a very comfortable retirement after a lifetime of contributions. Like SS, you wouldn't be able to collect until X age, and the best part is if you don't make it until that age, you can leave everything you worked for to your family instead of the government.

One fly in that ointment is what happens when the bottom drops out of the market and your IRA goes with it as you are at or near retirement age? and not sure of this but doesn't wife collect SS of husband who passed?

Yes, but if he does pass away before her and wills her his retirement account, it's really the same thing.

I've been told by the left I lived through the worst recession in our history. The people that handle my retirement account quit investing our contributions while the market plunged. A month or so before it started to go up, they then invested all that money they were holding on to, and it was like getting a three-for-one sale.

It grew better than if there were no recession at all. And if the government does want to get involved, they can insure those accounts like they do at the bank.

 

[KissMy]

Wise guy people are collecting more than they put in for one obvious reason you neglect to mention People are living longer You want to blame those living until their high 80's or 90's be my guest and btw are you planning on an early death??

It's quite possible given my health problems.

People will continue to live longer and longer. So what's the solution, keep going in the hole?

If we want these programs, then they must be funded. There is no other way to do it. That would mean tripling the employee contributions to Medicare. Doubling the contributions to Social Security. And if people are going broke because of those costs, they may just opt to eliminate the programs.

And as our economy improves there'll be more and more robots doing the work and they don't pay into SS Just means there must be a cut off age like 55 where those under don't collect as much

That is going to be the problem in the future, so I'm glad I'll be off this earth by then.

So the end result is we don't have any reasonable solution to all this except for getting rid of SS and replacing it with mandated IRA's. Unlike SS, compound interest makes for a very comfortable retirement after a lifetime of contributions. Like SS, you wouldn't be able to collect until X age, and the best part is if you don't make it until that age, you can leave everything you worked for to your family instead of the government.

One fly in that ointment is what happens when the bottom drops out of the market and your IRA goes with it as you are at or near retirement age? and not sure of this but doesn't wife collect SS of husband who passed?

Yes, but if he does pass away before her and wills her his retirement account, it's really the same thing.

I've been told by the left I lived through the worst recession in our history. The people that handle my retirement account quit investing our contributions while the market plunged. A month or so before it started to go up, they then invested all that money they were holding on to, and it was like getting a three-for-one sale.

It grew better than if there were no recession at all. And if the government does want to get involved, they can insure those accounts like they do at the bank.

Repubtards cause market crashes so rich people can buy up cheap assets. Real Workers Lose their Jobs!!!