Mark Judge, Key Witness To Alleged Brett Kavanaugh Assault, Refuses To Testify

[Toddsterpatriot]

Mark Judge will likely now be subpoenaed. Let's see if he is willing to go to jail for Kavanaugh....

Mark Judge will likely now be subpoenaed.

Awesome!

Will he testify a week after Kavanaugh is confirmed? A month after?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So? She has no backup.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up. You might want to go read up before commenting again.

And similar accusations from other victims is also "backup"...maybe you weren't aware of those other accusers, either.

And I think you forgot to type your admission that you keep misrepresenting the people who deny memory of the parties.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Will he testify a week after Kavanaugh is confirmed? A month after?

Obviously neither, but thanks for asking.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So? She has no backup.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up. You might want to go read up before commenting again.

And similar accusations from other victims is also "backup"...maybe you weren't aware of those other accusers, either.

And I think you forgot to type your admission that you keep misrepresenting the people who deny memory of the parties.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up.

Telling your made up story to 4 people, 30 years later, does not back up your claim.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So? She has no backup.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up. You might want to go read up before commenting again.

And similar accusations from other victims is also "backup"...maybe you weren't aware of those other accusers, either.

And I think you forgot to type your admission that you keep misrepresenting the people who deny memory of the parties.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up.

Telling your made up story to 4 people, 30 years later, does not back up your claim.

That's nice .Quite irrelevant and made up on the spot by you, but I am sure you feel a little better,now.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Will he testify a week after Kavanaugh is confirmed? A month after?

Obviously neither, but thanks for asking.

I agree, he won't testify.
Will Ford?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So? She has no backup.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up. You might want to go read up before commenting again.

And similar accusations from other victims is also "backup"...maybe you weren't aware of those other accusers, either.

And I think you forgot to type your admission that you keep misrepresenting the people who deny memory of the parties.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up.

Telling your made up story to 4 people, 30 years later, does not back up your claim.

That's nice .Quite irrelevant and made up on the spot by you, but I am sure you feel a little better,now.

Yes, 30 year old stories told to friends are irrelevant.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Will he testify a week after Kavanaugh is confirmed? A month after?

Obviously neither, but thanks for asking.

I agree, he won't testify.
Will Ford?

He will testify, if subpoenaed, which looks more likely, now.

Yes, Ford will as well.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So? She has no backup.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up. You might want to go read up before commenting again.

And similar accusations from other victims is also "backup"...maybe you weren't aware of those other accusers, either.

And I think you forgot to type your admission that you keep misrepresenting the people who deny memory of the parties.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up.

Telling your made up story to 4 people, 30 years later, does not back up your claim.

That's nice .Quite irrelevant and made up on the spot by you, but I am sure you feel a little better,now.

Yes, 30 year old stories told to friends are irrelevant.

Thank you for repeating your contrived, irrelevant statement.

 

[Theowl32]

And they still don't like the GOP. Most American Jews don't really care about Israel unless they have family there. There is no solidarity between Israel and American Jews as we have seen on so many occasions. Yes, it is surprising. It was only a few years ago I learned that the Jewish are the least religious people. I always though the opposite.

Wedge issues can be very powerful. I’m sure my Jewish buddy wouldn’t be so conservative if it weren’t for Israel and the Iraq war.

I keep bringing up joe Lieberman, the perfect example of what I’m talking about. He was a liberal who ran with gore but jumped to the dark side when bush invaded Iraq. And he was all for invading Iran. That’s why azog voted for McCain.

No. I voted for Mac because I thought he was more qualified than a one term senator from IL. I did not mind Obama though given the recession Bush put us in. I just didnt like him after seeing him for four yrs.

You fell for the Republicans bullshit. Did you not mind the GOP's behavior the minute Obama took office?

You are proof the media isn't liberal. The media didn't explain in 2009 what the GOP were doing to Obama and it cost Democrats in 2010 midterms.

And here we are today. The entire government run by Republicans when they caused the great recession and Democrats got us out. God the American people are dumb.

Jewish Trump Staff Silent on His Defense of Rally With Anti-Semitic Marchers

When whites start talking about how this is their country, Jews should get nervous. So should everyone except blonde hair blue eyed christian males.

With White Nationalism Emboldened, American Jews Consider Exit Strategies | HuffPost

So do you think that his Jewish grandchildren are concerned?


Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com

I am Jew and I am part of a large Jewish community. When non Jews site weird sources and tell me how me and my people feel, I just laugh. I know how I feel. I am in tune how my family and my people feel. I experience it firsthand. Many Jews on the left are very conflicted. Deep down they know that they need to be loyal to the culture given our relatively small numbers and continued antisemitism in the world. They still believe the Democrats will get their back. I am not so sure about that. Obama's dealing with Iran made them very nervous.

I can tell you, based on my friendships with Israelis and Jews (South Florida) many Israelis see the American left wing Jew as enemies to the Land of Canaan. That is how many of them see it.

To them, they are wolves in sheeps clothing. The modern version of KAPOS (Jews that worked for the nazis.)

Yes, the American left wing Jew emanated out of those Jews that came from Russia many years ago.

Famous socialists or marxists like emma goldman had ear of a gentleman named roger baldwin, who founded the aclu and communism was their stated goal.

After America dropped the atomic bombs in order to prevent a hot war with the ussr, the commie sympathizers Cohen and the Rosenbergs committed treason. Got those nuclear secrets to stalin.

Yes, there is a biiiiig difference between Israelis and American left wing Jews. Hence, the reason the devilish world despises Israel.

Those American left wing Jews are on the wrong side of history. Of course as long as true history is rewritten, it may not matter.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Wedge issues can be very powerful. I’m sure my Jewish buddy wouldn’t be so conservative if it weren’t for Israel and the Iraq war.

I keep bringing up joe Lieberman, the perfect example of what I’m talking about. He was a liberal who ran with gore but jumped to the dark side when bush invaded Iraq. And he was all for invading Iran. That’s why azog voted for McCain.

No. I voted for Mac because I thought he was more qualified than a one term senator from IL. I did not mind Obama though given the recession Bush put us in. I just didnt like him after seeing him for four yrs.

You fell for the Republicans bullshit. Did you not mind the GOP's behavior the minute Obama took office?

You are proof the media isn't liberal. The media didn't explain in 2009 what the GOP were doing to Obama and it cost Democrats in 2010 midterms.

And here we are today. The entire government run by Republicans when they caused the great recession and Democrats got us out. God the American people are dumb.

Jewish Trump Staff Silent on His Defense of Rally With Anti-Semitic Marchers

When whites start talking about how this is their country, Jews should get nervous. So should everyone except blonde hair blue eyed christian males.

With White Nationalism Emboldened, American Jews Consider Exit Strategies | HuffPost

So do you think that his Jewish grandchildren are concerned?


Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com

I am Jew and I am part of a large Jewish community. When non Jews site weird sources and tell me how me and my people feel, I just laugh. I know how I feel. I am in tune how my family and my people feel. I experience it firsthand. Many Jews on the left are very conflicted. Deep down they know that they need to be loyal to the culture given our relatively small numbers and continued antisemitism in the world. They still believe the Democrats will get their back. I am not so sure about that. Obama's dealing with Iran made them very nervous.

I can tell you, based on my friendships with Israelis and Jews (South Florida) many Israelis see the American left wing Jew as enemies to the Land of Canaan. That is many of them see it.

To them, they are wolves in sheeps clothing. The modern version of KAPOS (Jews that worked for the nazis.)

Yes, the American left wing Jew emanated out of those Jews that came from Russia many years ago.

Famous socialists or marxists like emma goldman had ear of a gentleman named roger baldwin, who founded the aclu and communism was their stated goal.

After America dropped the atomic bombs in order to prevent a hot war with the ussr, the commie sympathizers Cohen and the Rosenbergs committed treason. Got those nuclear secrets to stalin.

Yes, there is a biiiiig difference between Israelis and American left wing Jews. Hence, the reason the devilish world despises Israel.

Those American left wing Jews are on the wrong side of history. Of course as long as true history is rewritten, it may not matter.

I don't disagree with you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There wasn't much of a recession when that failure, Obama, took over.

"The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression."
Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression | Reuters

It was bad. Too many people bought homes they could not afford and lifted the economy for a short time. Then they started defaulting. Home prices plummeted, contractors were stalled, banks were hesitant to lend, and due to lack of new home ownership people stopped buying stuff. Investment banks imploded, we had TARP. It was bad! Mostly due to the mortgage crisis. Bail outs took place for AIG, Fannie and Freddie. Buffet had to inject capital into Goldman Sachs, Lehman filed, BoA bough Merrill, Mitsubishi invested in Morgan Stanley.

It was bad before Obama. He just made it worse because he was not business savvy. He just threw money at the problem.

A. Reuters is Liberal:
"The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression."
Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression | Reuters


B. The Mortgage Meltdown was totally Democrat caused:

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.

He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA

Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.

Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown


That's the CliffNotes version.

This was not party based. It happened under Bush but Clinton and Bernake had the vision of everyone should own a home. It was a disaster. Bush was just too stupid to see it and Obama was equally stupid. A logical person would have seen this a mile away but then again even Lehman was duped. So was Bear Stearns. People were greedy.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown.


"Democrats Were Wrong on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
The White House called for tighter regulation 17 times.


Seventeen. That's how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Much if not all of that could have been prevented by a bill cosponsored by John McCain and supported by all the Republicans and opposed by all the Democrats in the Senate Banking Committee in 2005. That bill, which the Democrats stopped from passing, would have prohibited the GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. The GSEs' mission allegedly justifying their quasi-governmental status was to package or securitize such mortgages, but the lion's share of their profits—which determined top executives' bonuses—came from speculation." http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...rats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac



Yet Barney Frank and his chums blocked all Bush's attempts to put a rein on Raines. During the House Financial Services Committee hearing following Bush's initiative, Frank declared: "The more people exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness [at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae], the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the Treasury which I do not see. I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially." His colleague on the committee, the California Democrat Maxine Walters, said: "There were nearly a dozen hearings where we were trying to fix something that wasn't broke. Mr Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particularly at Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Mr Franklin Raines." Bubble Meter: Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd deserve blame for Fannie and Freddie

I agree it started under Clinton and the Dems are responsible as well.

It started under Franklin Roosevelt......Democrat.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So? She has no backup.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up. You might want to go read up before commenting again.

And similar accusations from other victims is also "backup"...maybe you weren't aware of those other accusers, either.

And I think you forgot to type your admission that you keep misrepresenting the people who deny memory of the parties.

Actually, she now has 4 people backing her up.

Telling your made up story to 4 people, 30 years later, does not back up your claim.

That's nice .Quite irrelevant and made up on the spot by you, but I am sure you feel a little better,now.

Yes, 30 year old stories told to friends are irrelevant.

Thank you for repeating your contrived, irrelevant statement.

No back up for her claims.
No back up from the party.
No back up from less than 30 years after the "party".
Sorry.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No. I voted for Mac because I thought he was more qualified than a one term senator from IL. I did not mind Obama though given the recession Bush put us in. I just didnt like him after seeing him for four yrs.

Which recession was that? The one that happened after pelosi and the democrats took over the House and Senate?

What did the economy do from 2007 to 2010?

Do you know who signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act? Do you that exempted default from regulation? Do you know how that impacted the economy?

Do you know who rewrote the Community Reinvestment Act which put significant pressure on banks to lend to low income neighborhoods? See how that impacted the economy.

Do you know who headed Fannie and Freddie? They were not republicans.

Do you wonder why the democrats deliberately ignored all 18 warnings about the bubble in 2008? Big election year, right?

As far as the leftist jews. Most Jews emigrated here from Russia and their descendants listened to their family. Who, for the most part were karl marx sympathizers.

Most Jews today see themselves as liberals long before Jews. They break out the nazi card or victim card when it benefits them. They are hardly kosher. They do not follow any part of the Mosaic Law.

They are still dancing around the golden calf, or whatever false idol they have erected as a god in place of their God.

There wasn't much of a recession when that failure, Obama, took over.

"The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression."
Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression | Reuters

It was bad. Too many people bought homes they could not afford and lifted the economy for a short time. Then they started defaulting. Home prices plummeted, contractors were stalled, banks were hesitant to lend, and due to lack of new home ownership people stopped buying stuff. Investment banks imploded, we had TARP. It was bad! Mostly due to the mortgage crisis. Bail outs took place for AIG, Fannie and Freddie. Buffet had to inject capital into Goldman Sachs, Lehman filed, BoA bough Merrill, Mitsubishi invested in Morgan Stanley.

It was bad before Obama. He just made it worse because he was not business savvy. He just threw money at the problem.

Now, look up what happened after clinton rewrote the Community Reinvestment Act.

Please understand WHY banks were giving out those loans. They were pressured to lend to low income families.

Understand what clinton passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. It exempted DEFAULT SWAPS from regulation.

Do you understand what those two actions did?

Banks didn't hold the loans. They sold them off and the ones they had were insured by AIG. Investments banks profited. Smart people looked the other way. We cannot just blame politicians here.

Banks were forced to give the loans.

Congress passed a bill in 1975 requiring banks to provide the government with information on their lending activities in poor urban areas. Two years later, it passed the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which gave regulators the power to deny banks the right to expand if they didn’t lend sufficiently in those neighborhoods. In 1979 the FDIC used the CRA to block a move by the Greater NY Savings Bank for not enough lending.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Which recession was that? The one that happened after pelosi and the democrats took over the House and Senate?

What did the economy do from 2007 to 2010?

Do you know who signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act? Do you that exempted default from regulation? Do you know how that impacted the economy?

Do you know who rewrote the Community Reinvestment Act which put significant pressure on banks to lend to low income neighborhoods? See how that impacted the economy.

Do you know who headed Fannie and Freddie? They were not republicans.

Do you wonder why the democrats deliberately ignored all 18 warnings about the bubble in 2008? Big election year, right?

As far as the leftist jews. Most Jews emigrated here from Russia and their descendants listened to their family. Who, for the most part were karl marx sympathizers.

Most Jews today see themselves as liberals long before Jews. They break out the nazi card or victim card when it benefits them. They are hardly kosher. They do not follow any part of the Mosaic Law.

They are still dancing around the golden calf, or whatever false idol they have erected as a god in place of their God.

There wasn't much of a recession when that failure, Obama, took over.

"The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression."
Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression | Reuters

It was bad. Too many people bought homes they could not afford and lifted the economy for a short time. Then they started defaulting. Home prices plummeted, contractors were stalled, banks were hesitant to lend, and due to lack of new home ownership people stopped buying stuff. Investment banks imploded, we had TARP. It was bad! Mostly due to the mortgage crisis. Bail outs took place for AIG, Fannie and Freddie. Buffet had to inject capital into Goldman Sachs, Lehman filed, BoA bough Merrill, Mitsubishi invested in Morgan Stanley.

It was bad before Obama. He just made it worse because he was not business savvy. He just threw money at the problem.

Now, look up what happened after clinton rewrote the Community Reinvestment Act.

Please understand WHY banks were giving out those loans. They were pressured to lend to low income families.

Understand what clinton passed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. It exempted DEFAULT SWAPS from regulation.

Do you understand what those two actions did?

Banks didn't hold the loans. They sold them off and the ones they had were insured by AIG. Investments banks profited. Smart people looked the other way. We cannot just blame politicians here.

Banks were forced to give the loans.

Congress passed a bill in 1975 requiring banks to provide the government with information on their lending activities in poor urban areas. Two years later, it passed the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which gave regulators the power to deny banks the right to expand if they didn’t lend sufficiently in those neighborhoods. In 1979 the FDIC used the CRA to block a move by the Greater NY Savings Bank for not enough lending.

Middle Class people had defaults too not just low income ones. Especially in Cali.

 

[Theowl32]

It was bad. Too many people bought homes they could not afford and lifted the economy for a short time. Then they started defaulting. Home prices plummeted, contractors were stalled, banks were hesitant to lend, and due to lack of new home ownership people stopped buying stuff. Investment banks imploded, we had TARP. It was bad! Mostly due to the mortgage crisis. Bail outs took place for AIG, Fannie and Freddie. Buffet had to inject capital into Goldman Sachs, Lehman filed, BoA bough Merrill, Mitsubishi invested in Morgan Stanley.

It was bad before Obama. He just made it worse because he was not business savvy. He just threw money at the problem.

A. Reuters is Liberal:
"The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression."
Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression | Reuters


B. The Mortgage Meltdown was totally Democrat caused:

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.

He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA

Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.

Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown


That's the CliffNotes version.

This was not party based. It happened under Bush but Clinton and Bernake had the vision of everyone should own a home. It was a disaster. Bush was just too stupid to see it and Obama was equally stupid. A logical person would have seen this a mile away but then again even Lehman was duped. So was Bear Stearns. People were greedy.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown.


"Democrats Were Wrong on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
The White House called for tighter regulation 17 times.


Seventeen. That's how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Much if not all of that could have been prevented by a bill cosponsored by John McCain and supported by all the Republicans and opposed by all the Democrats in the Senate Banking Committee in 2005. That bill, which the Democrats stopped from passing, would have prohibited the GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. The GSEs' mission allegedly justifying their quasi-governmental status was to package or securitize such mortgages, but the lion's share of their profits—which determined top executives' bonuses—came from speculation." http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...rats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac



Yet Barney Frank and his chums blocked all Bush's attempts to put a rein on Raines. During the House Financial Services Committee hearing following Bush's initiative, Frank declared: "The more people exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness [at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae], the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the Treasury which I do not see. I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially." His colleague on the committee, the California Democrat Maxine Walters, said: "There were nearly a dozen hearings where we were trying to fix something that wasn't broke. Mr Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particularly at Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Mr Franklin Raines." Bubble Meter: Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd deserve blame for Fannie and Freddie

I agree it started under Clinton and the Dems are responsible as well.

It started under Franklin Roosevelt......Democrat.

Actually I would say Woodrow Wilson.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A. Reuters is Liberal:
"The unemployment rate announced three days after his election was 6.5%....not particularly terrible. But it was the only economic news, and had Obama insisting we were suffering "the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression."
Obama: U.S. in worst crisis since Depression | Reuters


B. The Mortgage Meltdown was totally Democrat caused:

1. Democrat FDR shredded the Constitution....ignoring article I, section 8, the enumerated powers.

He created GSE's Fannie, and his drones followed with Freddie, to do something the Constitution didn't authorize: meddle in housing.


2. Democrat Carter....the CRA, constraining banking policy


3. Democrat Clinton....strengthened the CRA

Under Clinton, HUD threatened banks, again, to give unrequited loans.

Henchmen: Democrats Cisneros and Cuomo.


4. Democrats Frank and Dodd barred any governmental discipline in this area.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown


That's the CliffNotes version.

This was not party based. It happened under Bush but Clinton and Bernake had the vision of everyone should own a home. It was a disaster. Bush was just too stupid to see it and Obama was equally stupid. A logical person would have seen this a mile away but then again even Lehman was duped. So was Bear Stearns. People were greedy.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown.


"Democrats Were Wrong on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
The White House called for tighter regulation 17 times.


Seventeen. That's how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Much if not all of that could have been prevented by a bill cosponsored by John McCain and supported by all the Republicans and opposed by all the Democrats in the Senate Banking Committee in 2005. That bill, which the Democrats stopped from passing, would have prohibited the GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. The GSEs' mission allegedly justifying their quasi-governmental status was to package or securitize such mortgages, but the lion's share of their profits—which determined top executives' bonuses—came from speculation." http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...rats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac



Yet Barney Frank and his chums blocked all Bush's attempts to put a rein on Raines. During the House Financial Services Committee hearing following Bush's initiative, Frank declared: "The more people exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness [at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae], the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the Treasury which I do not see. I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially." His colleague on the committee, the California Democrat Maxine Walters, said: "There were nearly a dozen hearings where we were trying to fix something that wasn't broke. Mr Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particularly at Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Mr Franklin Raines." Bubble Meter: Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd deserve blame for Fannie and Freddie

I agree it started under Clinton and the Dems are responsible as well.

It started under Franklin Roosevelt......Democrat.

Actually I would say Woodrow Wilson.

FDR started the Fannie and Freddie thing, and allowed folks to default on their agreements....

Why Wilson?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No back up for her claims.

Actually, similar accusations from others is, indeed, backup. That's now twice you have been corrected on this.

 

[Theowl32]

This was not party based. It happened under Bush but Clinton and Bernake had the vision of everyone should own a home. It was a disaster. Bush was just too stupid to see it and Obama was equally stupid. A logical person would have seen this a mile away but then again even Lehman was duped. So was Bear Stearns. People were greedy.

It was Democrats and Democrat policies that caused the Mortgage Meltdown.


"Democrats Were Wrong on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
The White House called for tighter regulation 17 times.


Seventeen. That's how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Much if not all of that could have been prevented by a bill cosponsored by John McCain and supported by all the Republicans and opposed by all the Democrats in the Senate Banking Committee in 2005. That bill, which the Democrats stopped from passing, would have prohibited the GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. The GSEs' mission allegedly justifying their quasi-governmental status was to package or securitize such mortgages, but the lion's share of their profits—which determined top executives' bonuses—came from speculation." http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs...rats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac



Yet Barney Frank and his chums blocked all Bush's attempts to put a rein on Raines. During the House Financial Services Committee hearing following Bush's initiative, Frank declared: "The more people exaggerate a threat of safety and soundness [at Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae], the more people conjure up the possibility of serious financial losses to the Treasury which I do not see. I think we see entities that are fundamentally sound financially." His colleague on the committee, the California Democrat Maxine Walters, said: "There were nearly a dozen hearings where we were trying to fix something that wasn't broke. Mr Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particularly at Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Mr Franklin Raines." Bubble Meter: Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd deserve blame for Fannie and Freddie

I agree it started under Clinton and the Dems are responsible as well.

It started under Franklin Roosevelt......Democrat.

Actually I would say Woodrow Wilson.

FDR started the Fannie and Freddie thing, and allowed folks to default on their agreements....

Why Wilson?

If we trace when socialism ifiltrated our politics, it goes back to Woodrow.

Yeah, as far Fannie and Freddie, you are right. I did even read the context of what you were responding to.

Thomas Woodrow Wilson (1856-1924) was the 28thPresident of the United States serving from 1913 to 1921. 1913 was a bad year for freedom. In 1913 Amendment XVI (Income Tax) was ratified as well as Amendment XVII (Popular Election of Senators). The Federal Reserve Act was also passed in December 1913 but the worst event of 1913 was the inauguration of Woodrow Wilson on March 4, 1913. Were it not for the rift in the Republican Party and Theodore Roosevelt running on the Bull Moose Party ticket Wilson would have had no chance of winning and would have become a mere footnote in history. This nobody who had become a Democratic Prince was now crowned a King and no one ever elected President before or since did it with the same level of arrogance and smugness. Wilson, the former President of Princeton, had a PhD and he was going to use his superior knowledge to lead the poor ignorant masses to a new vision for America (sounds like Barack Obama, doesn’t it).

In his first term as President, Wilson persuaded a Democratic Congress to pass major progressive reforms. Wilson pushed through in his first term a legislative agenda that few presidents have equaled including the Federal Reserve Act, the Federal Trade Commission Act, the Clayton Antitrust Act and the Federal Farm Loan Act among many. If this was all he had done it would be exceptional, but he had bigger ideas in his theoretical head, ideas that would be used to destroy constitutional principles and give a theoretical basis for the descent into socialism.

Wilson, in his inaugural Address, used clever rhetoric to disguise the fact that he fundamentally disliked the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence and wanted to see the Constitution altered to agree with socialist principles. Wilson ushered in the modern view that the Constitution is a “living document” which enabled activist judges to rewrite the Constitution according to the progressive notions of the day. Wilson cynically took the oath of office and agreed to “support and defend” the Constitution of the United States and then, once he had lowered his raised right hand, began the process of dismantling the very document he had sworn to uphold.


Woodrow Wilson: Godfather of Liberalism

 

[PoliticalChic]

Which recession was that? The one that happened after pelosi and the democrats took over the House and Senate?

What did the economy do from 2007 to 2010?

Do you know who signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act? Do you that exempted default from regulation? Do you know how that impacted the economy?

Do you know who rewrote the Community Reinvestment Act which put significant pressure on banks to lend to low income neighborhoods? See how that impacted the economy.

Do you know who headed Fannie and Freddie? They were not republicans.

Do you wonder why the democrats deliberately ignored all 18 warnings about the bubble in 2008? Big election year, right?

As far as the leftist jews. Most Jews emigrated here from Russia and their descendants listened to their family. Who, for the most part were karl marx sympathizers.

Most Jews today see themselves as liberals long before Jews. They break out the nazi card or victim card when it benefits them. They are hardly kosher. They do not follow any part of the Mosaic Law.

They are still dancing around the golden calf, or whatever false idol they have erected as a god in place of their God.

True about Jews. My parents are Russian immigrants. But I was never a Leftist. Always an Independent. My dad was a lifelong Democrat but now has gone to the GOP. Feels the Democrat party has changed and betrayed him.

You sound like my dad. Says he's an independent but he's totally a liberal. Just a moderate one. You are a moderate conservative. Stop calling yourself independent. You're a guy who should be voting democratic but you got duped just like most Americans who vote GOP.

Why should I be voting for the Left when they are OK with the flag of those who want my people exterminated flown at their covention but are not OK with the state flag of MS there? Stop saying I was duped. I am not a child. I am a husband, a father, a business owner and a citizen of this country. I am allowed to have opinions that differ from yours. Opinions cannot be wrong.

Do you always deal in absolutes? Show some respect to those that may have a different POV from you.

How do you feel considering the history that other religions (christianity and islam) have with making promises to support Jews then turning around, becoming the worst anti-semites of all? I'm thinking....Muhammed, Martin Luther, the Spanish, etc.

The Spanish Inquisition was greatly exaggerated. One of many ways history has been shaped or rewritten to shape an agenda.

Christians, have been one of the biggest supporters of Jews. Did you know Pope Pius XII actually saved many Jews in WWII, but to this day the secular world refers to him as hitlers pope.


Look up Israel Anton Zoller, the chief Rabbi of Rome and why he converted. Mainly due to him being protected and saved along with an estimated 800,000 Jews from nazis.

However, the false teachers continue with their narrative.

Here is a short video explaining how we are still fooled by the left about THE CRUSADES.



Notice how them left always try to equate islam with Christianity. Their favorite thing.

Ask them to recite the chapter and verse in the New Testament that commands Christians to kill Jews or the infidel.

Ask them if they want me to cite quran verses that command their followers to kill Jews.

They are false teachers. Period.

"The Spanish Inquisition was greatly exaggerated. One of many ways history has been shaped or rewritten to shape an agenda."


Solzhenitsyn agrees with you.
Before the Russian Revolution, the number of execution by the czarist government came to seventeen (17) per year, according to Solzhenitsyn. He pointed out that, in comparison, the Spanish Inquisition, at its height, destroyed 10 people per month.

But, during the revolutionary years 1918-1919, Lenin's Cheka executed, without trial, more than one thousand (1,000) people a month.
At the height of Stalin's terror, 1937-1938, tens of thousands of people were shot per month. Solzhenitsyn, "Warning To The West."