Marines leaving Iraq!!!!!

[Dr Grump]

Exactly...so all it is is spin from the left.

Now can you tell, me as a lawyer...does a Judge dismissing a charge equate to a finding of "not guilty" or "aquittal"?

Did the UN sanction the invasion of Iraq?

 

[Dr Grump]

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Uhhhh...sorry...you have failed AGAIN! The UN authorized us to use military force in Iraq. !!!

They did? Are you sure? Again, think about it before you answer....

Yes...they did.

Please quote the resolution...

 

[CurveLight]

**** international law. Ours trumps your international law any day of the week....
NEXT!

As a member of the UNSC we are bound by those international laws. But, given your affinity for ignoring facts I'm sure that won't slow you down one bit from shoving your head up your ass so fast your ears melt from wind shear.

Wrong again. U.S. military law and the laws passed by our Congress is all we adhere to when our own national interests are concerned.

now back to the original request.....
Show us your PROOF that the Iraq War is illegal...SPECIFIC PROOF...NOT CLAIMS..BUT SPECIFIC PROOF THAT HAS BEEN VETTED IN A U.S. COURT OF LAW AND RESULTED IN A CONVICTION.

You sound like a pack of mice trapped in a coffee can.

 

[CurveLight]

I believe the Judge agreed with the Soldiers defense for not deploying on the basis of a combination of US and international law. That's just another area of deep hypocrisy by the pro war crowd. They love to justify iraq by screaming saddam violated UN Resolutions but then say the UN doesn't matter when it's shown the invasion violated the UN Charter.

Bingo...

...gee, I wonder who they're fooling....

Obviously you, as an outsider, haven't a clue about US military law. Speculate all you want...it's irrelevant and only your opinion...which in a military courts martial which has already convicted the perpetrator..is completely moot.

Saddam was convicted under Iraqi law, and one that conveniently put him to death before he could be put on trial that would explain why Rumsfeld gave him a rimjob in 83'. (I know you had to be talking about Saddam because you could not possibly be so dumb as to reference the case I cited because that Soldier was not convicted for UA. It's also funny as hell you try to claim to be informed on military law after you claimed the charge of Missing Movement is basically the same as being UA/AWOL.)

You're a ******* joke.

 

[jillian]

[q

Uhhhh...sorry...you have failed AGAIN! The UN authorized us to use military force in Iraq. !!!

They did? Are you sure? Again, think about it before you answer....

Yes...they did.

No. They didn't. In fact, Kofi Annan specifically called it illegal on September 16, 2004.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

 

[CurveLight]

See you in about 3 weeks punk.


So....
now...
back to the original request...

How does a judge dismissing a charge make it a finding of not guilty?

Show your irrefutable proof, that STOOD up in a U.S. Court of Law, the war in Iraq was illegal. SPECIFICALLY!

It doesn't get any more specific than a Judge acquitting a Soldier for refusing to deploy based on the war being illegal. Keep embarrassing yourself like the pathetic individual you keep proving to be. You'll be in Boston in about 3 weeks? Great!

Oh my GOD!!! look at this pathetic ****!!!! First he says people who support the war use blood as a sexual lubricant...now he is saying the Judge who dismissed one of the charges as "duplicative" equates to AQUITTING the sailor!!!! AFTER HE SAID THE GUY WAS CONVICTED!!!!!!

CurveLight is what we refer to as a "dim bulb" meaning he lacks the basic intelligence of someone representing the human race.

I asked for specific proof the war was illegal. CurveLight thinks that if someone makes the claim "The war is illegal." that this is legal proof.

Nothing could be further from reality....just like CurveLight...it's about as far from reality as one can get.

CurveLight...YOU LOST THE ARGUMENT...get over it and move on.

Holy shit you never stop lying. You didn't ask for specific proof the war is illegal and that is because there is a ton of evidence proving so that you tried to avoid tha by demanding a court case showing it is illegal. The funny part is you didn't know that court case existed and after it was provided you still ignored it. Lol. Now you want to hang everything on that word "duplicative" and pretend you know what you are talking about.

 

[CurveLight]

Wrong again. U.S. military law and the laws passed by our Congress is all we adhere to when our own national interests are concerned.

now back to the original request.....
Show us your PROOF that the Iraq War is illegal...SPECIFIC PROOF...NOT CLAIMS..BUT SPECIFIC PROOF THAT HAS BEEN VETTED IN A U.S. COURT OF LAW AND RESULTED IN A CONVICTION.

Prove that your war was legal. Under what jurisdiction did you go to war? What were the circumstances? What was the immediate threat to the US?

Uhhhh...sorry...you have failed AGAIN! The UN authorized us to use military force in Iraq. Then our own Congress authorized the President to use military force in Iraq based on what was known at the time...NEXT!!!

HOLY ******* BATPICKLES! You have just confirmed I'm a big dumbass. Yes, you have proven I'm a ******* idiot. Do you know why? I've been debating someone who doesn't even know the UN never authorized us to go back into Iraq. You are even more pathetic than I thought before, and I didn't think you could sink much lower but by golly you found a subterranean nuclear shovel. Bye bye.

 

[CurveLight]

They did? Are you sure? Again, think about it before you answer....

Yes...they did.

No. They didn't. In fact, Kofi Annan specifically called it illegal on September 16, 2004.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

He'll probably do the same old dance of trying to use an older resolution which will confirm what I said about his camp screaming international doesn't matter but then tries to use international to justify the invasion. ******* hypocrites are like a merry-go-round of tiny razor blades. From a distance it looks like a neat sparkling ride until you get closer and realize all it does is slice up anyone dumb enough to get close and stand there. Like I did.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Show your irrefutable proof, that STOOD up in a U.S. Court of Law, the war in Iraq was illegal. SPECIFICALLY

Who gives a shit about US law, how about International law...

The USA follows US law. We may decide to follow international treaties that we have agreed to. But International law? According to whom?

 

[SFC Ollie]

They did? Are you sure? Again, think about it before you answer....

Yes...they did.

No. They didn't. In fact, Kofi Annan specifically called it illegal on September 16, 2004.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

Discussion on UN Resolution 1441
"This resolution contains no 'hidden triggers' and no 'automaticity' with respect to the use of force. If there is a further Iraqi breach, reported to the council by UNMOVIC, the IAEA, or a Member State, the matter will return to the council for discussion….[But] if the Security Council fails to act decisively in the event of further Iraqi violations, this resolution does not constrain any member state from acting to defend itself against the threat posed by Iraq or to enforce the relevant United Nations resolutions and protect world peace and security."( U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Negroponte)(The British ambassador, Sir Jeremy Greenstock, agreed. )

International Law - War in Iraq - United Nations - Iraq

 

[CurveLight]

Yes...they did.

No. They didn't. In fact, Kofi Annan specifically called it illegal on September 16, 2004.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

Discussion on UN Resolution 1441
"This resolution contains no 'hidden triggers' and no 'automaticity' with respect to the use of force. If there is a further Iraqi breach, reported to the council by UNMOVIC, the IAEA, or a Member State, the matter will return to the council for discussion….[But] if the Security Council fails to act decisively in the event of further Iraqi violations, this resolution does not constrain any member state from acting to defend itself against the threat posed by Iraq or to enforce the relevant United Nations resolutions and protect world peace and security."( U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Negroponte)(The British ambassador, Sir Jeremy Greenstock, agreed. )

International Law - War in Iraq - United Nations - Iraq

You just helped prove why the invasion and occupation is illegal. Thank you.

 

[CurveLight]

Show your irrefutable proof, that STOOD up in a U.S. Court of Law, the war in Iraq was illegal. SPECIFICALLY

Who gives a shit about US law, how about International law...

The USA follows US law. We may decide to follow international treaties that we have agreed to. But International law? According to whom?

According to US law the US must abide by all Treaties it is a signatory member of. Tomorrow we will discuss the reasons for sliced bread and gas caps.

 

[B L Zeebub]

Good morning,I was referring to the feelings I had and have, not curvedlights.

Like you I did not want the invasion, but I supported the troops from all the nations that had to go there.

Ours is not to question why, ours is just to do our die.

This cliche:

"Ours is not to question why, ours is just to do our die."


Is absolutely pure bullshit. That is not the Oath. The Oath was specifically designed for every Soldier to question "why" to help prevent fucked up orders.

In the context of your country maybe, not in the UK.

 

[B L Zeebub]

yesterday the most senior Lawyer in our Foreign Office, gave evidence to the inquiry re the invasion of Iraq.

He stated that he informed the various ministers that were involved, that without a specific UN mandate the invasion would be illegal.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Exactly...so all it is is spin from the left.

Now can you tell, me as a lawyer...does a Judge dismissing a charge equate to a finding of "not guilty" or "aquittal"?

Did the UN sanction the invasion of Iraq?

What are you a Jew...do you normally deflect and obfuscate when asked a question? Please grow up.

 

[Queen]

Exactly...so all it is is spin from the left.

Now can you tell, me as a lawyer...does a Judge dismissing a charge equate to a finding of "not guilty" or "aquittal"?

Did the UN sanction the invasion of Iraq?

What are you a Jew...do you normally deflect and obfuscate when asked a question? Please grow up.

Wow.

What are you, a bigot?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

They did? Are you sure? Again, think about it before you answer....

Yes...they did.

No. They didn't. In fact, Kofi Annan specifically called it illegal on September 16, 2004.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Iraq war illegal, says Annan

Sorry Jillian...you left out the part of the story that said this....

When pressed on whether he viewed the invasion of Iraq as illegal, he said: "Yes, if you wish. I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN charter from our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal."

Now...this is where the war was legal from the standpoint of the UN....Resolution 1441authorizes the use of military force against Iraq. What part of "all necessary means" is confusing everyone?

Recalling that its resolution 678 (1990) authorized Member States to use all
necessary means to uphold and implement its resolution 660 (1990) of 2 August
1990 and all relevant resolutions subsequent to resolution 660 (1990) and to restore
international peace and security in the area,

ODS HOME PAGE

and then there is this LAW signed by our Congress...

US Government Printing Office - FDsys - More Information

The sooner you progressives realize that OUR OWN NATIONAL SECURITY and OUR OWN LAWS trump International law...the sooner we can move on.

and then theres this...if the war was illegal...how come no charges have been filed against anyone? How come there have been no trials of anyone?

Sorry...you guys just have to accept the fact that the war WAS LEGAL. Now move on.

NO ONE HERE has provided specific proof that the war in Iraq was illegal. Not a single one. I've made my case for it's legality and apparently, the the law is on my side. All you guys have is opinion...not a single fact proven in any court of law.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Who gives a shit about US law, how about International law...

The USA follows US law. We may decide to follow international treaties that we have agreed to. But International law? According to whom?

According to US law the US must abide by all Treaties it is a signatory member of.

WRONG!... When the National Security of the United States is threatened international law DOESN'T MEAN A DAMN THING and by OUR OWN LAWS WE DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY... You got that yet?

 

[B L Zeebub]

The USA follows US law. We may decide to follow international treaties that we have agreed to. But International law? According to whom?

According to US law the US must abide by all Treaties it is a signatory member of.

WRONG!... When the National Security of the United States is threatened international law DOESN'T MEAN A DAMN THING and by OUR OWN LAWS WE DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY... You got that yet?

but if it has been proven international laws have been broken?

Ps I'm a Jew, is that a problem for you?

 

[Dr Grump]

Exactly...so all it is is spin from the left.

Now can you tell, me as a lawyer...does a Judge dismissing a charge equate to a finding of "not guilty" or "aquittal"?

Did the UN sanction the invasion of Iraq?

What are you a Jew...do you normally deflect and obfuscate when asked a question? Please grow up.

Biologically? 1/8th Jew...why?

As for the above, the question you asked was aimed at Jillian, who is both Jewish and a lawyer...

And what was the Security Council vote on 1441 re the invasion of Iraq in 2003?