Marco Rubio: U.S. Ready to Move On from the Ukraine War

No, since Trump is a massive liar-liar pants on fire kinda guy.
So? Who among politicians, except Putin, isn't? It's his job in a way. You can't tell a good story without lying more or less. He's taking you out of the dumpster at last but you're kicking and screaming for some unknown reason. Are you one of those, whatchamacallit, troglodytes?
 
Can we just walk away from this crap? Getting involved in things that don`t concern us brought down the WTC and killed 3,000 innocent people. RR thought he was bad ass bombing Libya until they blew up one of our airliners over Scotland. One way or another, people will strike back and we`ll reap what we sow.
Nope...

US signed the Budapest Memorandum...

If the US gives Ukraine back it's nukes then I suppose you might be able to say you want out of the deal....
 
And the result has been a war which drags on and on with so many deaths.
Russia can stop it tomorrow...

They can go home...

Ukraine are just defending the place they live...

Can we get that... Russia can stop the killing by just going back to Russia...
 
I'm happy to blame Putin for starting the war but that doesn't mean it makes any sense for it to just go on endlessly.

Something in this war equation needs to change at some point. The U.S. has supported the war and now is trying to help negotiate an end.

I agree with the last sentence of the OP.

It's time for both parties to negotiate or for the U.S. to move on. At that point, Europe can choose to continue to support it or move on too.
Problem with capitulating to Putin... He won't stop...

Putin wants the end to western democracy as perceives it a threat to his power...

Poland joined EU at half the GDP per capita of Russia... Now they are double Russia... How does Putin sell that internally?
Times have changed, you can't run the information blackout of the cold war...
 
Russia can stop it tomorrow...

They can go home...

Ukraine are just defending the place they live...

Can we get that... Russia can stop the killing by just going back to Russia...
It would be wonderful if Russia went back to Russia.

But the other side of this is Ukraine can't defend the place they live - without relying heavily on half the world, and especially the U.S., to help. Even with all that help, they aren't succeeding. In order to succeed (win), they'd need even more help and at a level this world would very likely regret. As is, no one is winning and so many people are dying. How much more of that do you think makes sense and to what end?
 
So? Who among politicians, except Putin, isn't? It's his job in a way. You can't tell a good story without lying more or less. He's taking you out of the dumpster at last but you're kicking and screaming for some unknown reason. Are you one of those, whatchamacallit, troglodytes?
You seem to lie better than Pootin.
 
Nope...

US signed the Budapest Memorandum...

If the US gives Ukraine back it's nukes then I suppose you might be able to say you want out of the deal....
Ukraine never had any nukes they were Soviet nukes, and if some clown was crazy enough to give Ukraine nukes those psychos are crazy enough to use them and take everyone down in the process.
 
Problem with capitulating to Putin... He won't stop...

Putin wants the end to western democracy as perceives it a threat to his power...

Poland joined EU at half the GDP per capita of Russia... Now they are double Russia... How does Putin sell that internally?
Times have changed, you can't run the information blackout of the cold war...
People in Russia remember what life was like when that drunken Court jester Yeltsin was running the Country into the ground in the 90s, Western Corporate jackals running riot looting the Country and Russian Oligarchs helping them for a cut, Putin halted that shit and for some reason you can't stand it, maybe you were in on the looting, there is no other reason that makes sense, and who the hell told you he won't stop? he will stop when that rogue terror State is neutralized and purged of Nato and the Nazi cult.
 
Russia can stop it tomorrow...

They can go home...

Ukraine are just defending the place they live...

Can we get that... Russia can stop the killing by just going back to Russia...
Where were you in 2014 when Porochenko unleashed the army and airforce along with Nazi Goons on his own Citizens killing thousands in Donbass.?
 
Let me repeat.


We are stepping back. This is more space for you to take teh lead.

Why you unhappy? This should be a cause for celebration.

Imagine I'm a 200-year-old turtle that you tell to climb a tree because your monkey king wants it that way. Exactly as unhappy I am by eating my Kraut.

 
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It is well past time. Trump has been extremely patient with both the Ukranians and with the Ruskies.
Europe has expressed willingness to step up and fill the vacuum that would be left by the opting out of the United States.
Or this move may prompt both sides to finally start negotiating as if they want peace, instead of wanting an endless war.

I agree. Fuggem all. Enough time and money wasted. If at some later date either or both sides decide they want or need our mediation to call an end to all hostilities, they have our number.
 


It is well past time. Trump has been extremely patient with both the Ukranians and with the Ruskies.

Europe has expressed willingness to step up and fill the vacuum that would be left by the opting out of the United States.

Or this move may prompt both sides to finally start negotiating as if they want peace, instead of wanting an endless war.

So, no peace within 24 hours because shitler! can get it done.
 
Whereas Bide was able to focus all of his attention on . . . okay, the team that managed Biden was able to focus all of their attention on pouring hard-earned tax dollars into a country unwilling to negotiate for peace.
Day 89 and still no art of the deal from shitler!.
 
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