“Many People Died, and What For?”: More and More Ukrainians Just Want Peace

[excalibur]

A mess from the moment Biden was installed in the White House.

But ask yourself this. Why did the deep state so want Biden over Trump?

Well?

War. Because there is so much money in war for so many people.

And that is why the same people want Harris.

Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.

The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a negotiated peace. In July, a Kyiv International Institute of Sociology(KIIS) survey found that about 44% of Ukrainians are open to territorial concessions to achieve peace and preserve independence, according to The New York Times.

Nadia Ivashchenko, 28, a railway signal operator from central Kirovohrad, admitted she couldn’t outline what a favorable peace settlement would look like. Her husband has been serving in the army since Russia’s invasion in February 2022, and their five-year-old son has not seen his father for years. “So many people died, and what for?” Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now,” according to The New York Times.

The KIIS poll reveals that between May 2022 and May 2023, roughly 8% to 10% of respondents were open to territorial concessions, while a significant majority, 82% to 87%, consistently opposed them. However, since May 2023, more people have become willing to consider concessions. By the end of 2023, 19% were ready to make concessions; this figure grew to 26% by February, and increased to 32% in May.

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[gtopa1]

Send bullets and bombs; let Europe send cash!!!

Greg

 

[Doc7505]

A mess from the moment Biden was installed in the White House.

But ask yourself this. Why did the deep state so want Biden over Trump?

Well?

War. Because there is so much money in war for so many people.

And that is why the same people want Harris.

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Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.​

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The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a negotiated peace. In July, a Kyiv International Institute of Sociology(KIIS) survey found that about 44% of Ukrainians are open to territorial concessions to achieve peace and preserve independence, according to The New York Times.​

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Nadia Ivashchenko, 28, a railway signal operator from central Kirovohrad, admitted she couldn’t outline what a favorable peace settlement would look like. Her husband has been serving in the army since Russia’s invasion in February 2022, and their five-year-old son has not seen his father for years. “So many people died, and what for?” Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now,” according to The New York Times.​

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The KIIS poll reveals that between May 2022 and May 2023, roughly 8% to 10% of respondents were open to territorial concessions, while a significant majority, 82% to 87%, consistently opposed them. However, since May 2023, more people have become willing to consider concessions. By the end of 2023, 19% were ready to make concessions; this figure grew to 26% by February, and increased to 32% in May.​

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Peace At What Price?​

The Sticking Points That Kept Russia and Ukraine Apart

Documents from 2022 shed new light on what prevented Ukraine and Russia from ending the war — and what would complicate a future negotiation.

www.nytimes.com

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Peace at What Price?

Cambridge Core - American Studies - Peace at What Price?

www.cambridge.org

 

[Manonthestreet]

Joes masterpiece

 

[White 6]

A mess from the moment Biden was installed in the White House.

But ask yourself this. Why did the deep state so want Biden over Trump?

Well?

War. Because there is so much money in war for so many people.

And that is why the same people want Harris.

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Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.​

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The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a negotiated peace. In July, a Kyiv International Institute of Sociology(KIIS) survey found that about 44% of Ukrainians are open to territorial concessions to achieve peace and preserve independence, according to The New York Times.​

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Nadia Ivashchenko, 28, a railway signal operator from central Kirovohrad, admitted she couldn’t outline what a favorable peace settlement would look like. Her husband has been serving in the army since Russia’s invasion in February 2022, and their five-year-old son has not seen his father for years. “So many people died, and what for?” Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now,” according to The New York Times.​

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The KIIS poll reveals that between May 2022 and May 2023, roughly 8% to 10% of respondents were open to territorial concessions, while a significant majority, 82% to 87%, consistently opposed them. However, since May 2023, more people have become willing to consider concessions. By the end of 2023, 19% were ready to make concessions; this figure grew to 26% by February, and increased to 32% in May.​

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Interesting. The Russian troops do not want to fight in Ukraine. Putin should just call it off, like their attempt in Afghanistan.

Ukraine war: Mass surrender of troops in Mariupol, says Russia

Russia says more than 1,000 marines in the besieged port have surrendered - but Ukraine denies this.

www.bbc.com

More than 220 Russian soldiers have surrendered to Ukraine via a hotline

Russian soldiers are contacting the Ukrainian army's' "I Want to Live" hotline to surrender.

www.businessinsider.com

Russian Army hit by new spike of desertions

Ukraine's military intelligence agency said this year that desertion was rife in Russia's southern military district forces.

www.newsweek.com

Wounded Russian soldiers – some on crutches – used in ‘meat wave’ attacks

Kremlin’s forces seen ‘staggering’ on battlefield and ‘left in positions to die’ while Ukrainian PoWs made to walk ahead as human shields

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[jackflash]

A mess from the moment Biden was installed in the White House.

But ask yourself this. Why did the deep state so want Biden over Trump?

Well?

War. Because there is so much money in war for so many people.

And that is why the same people want Harris.

​

Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.​

​

The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a negotiated peace. In July, a Kyiv International Institute of Sociology(KIIS) survey found that about 44% of Ukrainians are open to territorial concessions to achieve peace and preserve independence, according to The New York Times.​

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Nadia Ivashchenko, 28, a railway signal operator from central Kirovohrad, admitted she couldn’t outline what a favorable peace settlement would look like. Her husband has been serving in the army since Russia’s invasion in February 2022, and their five-year-old son has not seen his father for years. “So many people died, and what for?” Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now,” according to The New York Times.​

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The KIIS poll reveals that between May 2022 and May 2023, roughly 8% to 10% of respondents were open to territorial concessions, while a significant majority, 82% to 87%, consistently opposed them. However, since May 2023, more people have become willing to consider concessions. By the end of 2023, 19% were ready to make concessions; this figure grew to 26% by February, and increased to 32% in May.​

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War is the banality of evil. Unfortunately we will have to wait for our Boss to return to accomplish what all of humanity combined could not accomplish(so humiliating). Until then I will support the below link as an alternative to the wars of human death & mass destruction.



The 'Peter Pan' deer; don't go into hysterical laughter without them!

 

[GLASNOST]

More and More Ukrainians Just Want Peace​

More and more? The only Ukrainians who do not welcome peace are the Ukrainian Nazis and the only people who want war is the American Military-Industrial Complex. Had the US stayed out of it Russia would have lent a hand in rooting out the faction of Ukrainian Nazis and Donbas would be prospering. Whether or not Russia would also be willing to help Ukraine weed out its political corruption ..... that I don't know.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... we will have to wait for our Boss to return to accomplish what all of humanity combined could not accomplish....

I like it.

 

[jackflash]

Interesting. The Russian troops do not want to fight in Ukraine. Putin should just call it off, like their attempt in Afghanistan.

Ukraine war: Mass surrender of troops in Mariupol, says Russia

Russia says more than 1,000 marines in the besieged port have surrendered - but Ukraine denies this.

www.bbc.com

More than 220 Russian soldiers have surrendered to Ukraine via a hotline

Russian soldiers are contacting the Ukrainian army's' "I Want to Live" hotline to surrender.

www.businessinsider.com

Russian Army hit by new spike of desertions

Ukraine's military intelligence agency said this year that desertion was rife in Russia's southern military district forces.

www.newsweek.com

Wounded Russian soldiers – some on crutches – used in ‘meat wave’ attacks

Kremlin’s forces seen ‘staggering’ on battlefield and ‘left in positions to die’ while Ukrainian PoWs made to walk ahead as human shields

www.telegraph.co.uk

In my opinion this war for the sake of war rubbish is only benefitting a very small number of people. Folks should be protected within their own borders where they can party their lives away in peace & tranquility with their fellow countrymen. The warmongers need to be identified & hunted down then imprisoned for life. Both the Russians & Ukrainians have lost a LOT of folks & for what??? Quality ambassadorship should have easily averted this senseless conflict.

 

[GLASNOST]

... Folks should be protected within their own borders where they can party their lives away in peace & tranquility with their fellow countrymen .......

Such as the ethnic Russians in Donbas? They are Ukrainians just as much as the residents of Spanish Harlem are Americans.

 

[GLASNOST]

Interesting. The Russian troops do not want to fight in Ukraine. Putin should just call it off, like their attempt in Afghanistan.

Ukraine war: Mass surrender of troops in Mariupol, says Russia

Russia says more than 1,000 marines in the besieged port have surrendered - but Ukraine denies this.

www.bbc.com

Also interesting is that the link refers to Russia's claim that a thousand Ukrainian Marines have surrendered but the article ignores that and concentrates on whatever successes the Ukrainians achieved in retreat. Do they honestly see that as a contradiction?

 

[theHawk]

Once the globalists kill off millions of Ukrainians and ethnic Russians, Blackrock will buy up all the land. Then the refugees will be brought in to replace all the dead white Chrsitians.

 

[Independent thinker]

A mess from the moment Biden was installed in the White House.

But ask yourself this. Why did the deep state so want Biden over Trump?

Well?

War. Because there is so much money in war for so many people.

And that is why the same people want Harris.

​

Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.​

​

The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a negotiated peace. In July, a Kyiv International Institute of Sociology(KIIS) survey found that about 44% of Ukrainians are open to territorial concessions to achieve peace and preserve independence, according to The New York Times.​

​

Nadia Ivashchenko, 28, a railway signal operator from central Kirovohrad, admitted she couldn’t outline what a favorable peace settlement would look like. Her husband has been serving in the army since Russia’s invasion in February 2022, and their five-year-old son has not seen his father for years. “So many people died, and what for?” Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now,” according to The New York Times.​

​

The KIIS poll reveals that between May 2022 and May 2023, roughly 8% to 10% of respondents were open to territorial concessions, while a significant majority, 82% to 87%, consistently opposed them. However, since May 2023, more people have become willing to consider concessions. By the end of 2023, 19% were ready to make concessions; this figure grew to 26% by February, and increased to 32% in May.​

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The whole war has been stupid. First, I don't believe Russia would have even invaded in the first place if not for the totally botched Afghan withdrawal. Second, Ukraine isn't even in NATO and yet the world is helping defend them as if they were in NATO. Third, they have never received enough stuff to actually make a difference in the war. It's all about keeping them in the war without actually winning, in a never ending war. There has never been an exit or winning strategy, only a strategy of throwing an endless amount of money and equipment down a rabbit hole.

 

[Resnic]

A mess from the moment Biden was installed in the White House.

But ask yourself this. Why did the deep state so want Biden over Trump?

Well?

War. Because there is so much money in war for so many people.

And that is why the same people want Harris.

Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.

The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a negotiated peace. In July, a Kyiv International Institute of Sociology(KIIS) survey found that about 44% of Ukrainians are open to territorial concessions to achieve peace and preserve independence, according to The New York Times.

Nadia Ivashchenko, 28, a railway signal operator from central Kirovohrad, admitted she couldn’t outline what a favorable peace settlement would look like. Her husband has been serving in the army since Russia’s invasion in February 2022, and their five-year-old son has not seen his father for years. “So many people died, and what for?” Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now,” according to The New York Times.

The KIIS poll reveals that between May 2022 and May 2023, roughly 8% to 10% of respondents were open to territorial concessions, while a significant majority, 82% to 87%, consistently opposed them. However, since May 2023, more people have become willing to consider concessions. By the end of 2023, 19% were ready to make concessions; this figure grew to 26% by February, and increased to 32% in May.

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"Many People Died, and What For?": More and More Ukrainians Just Want Peace, and Trump Is the Only One Who Can Bring It - 🔔 The Liberty Daily

If you love the news, check out The Liberty Daily's homepage. (DCNF)—Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday. The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a...

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They never wanted peace. That's why not once did they promote peace or try to work out the problems. They immediately went to "Russia is evil Russia is bad. We should boycott Russia. Russia is trying to destroy all of Europe and take over the world. We will help crush Russia".

Then they sent them hundreds of billions of dollars and then said they would fund Ukraine as long as it takes, then signed a 10 year funding contract with Ukraine.

Biden, Zelenskyy sign new 10-year security agreement

President Joe Biden and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy held a press conference Thursday on the sidelines of the G7 summit in Italy.

abcnews.go.com

The goal is perpetuate the war as long as possible and launder as much money as possible.

And when it's over companies like black rock are licking their lips waiting for their huge payouts to rebuild Ukraine.

BlackRock and JPMorgan are backing a $15 billion investor fund to rebuild Ukraine

It would cost almost half-a-trillion dollars to reconstruct Ukraine

qz.com

We're in it for money and nothing else.

Everyone complains about people with money like Elon musk and Jeff bezos. But the ultra wealthy elite of elites are the ones they really should be afraid of like the people who run all the companies and banks involved in this shit and the world economic forum.

Send bullets and bombs; let Europe send cash!!!

Greg

Bullets and bombs cost money.

If that's all we were allowed to send was ammunition then suspiciously we would be sending over 7.62 rounds at the reported cost of 9,840 dollars per round. And no one would question "Mr president why did you send 230,000,000,000 dollars of ammunition?"

We shouldn't be sending them shit, especially not when we can't even fix our own problems.

 

[White 6]

In my opinion this war for the sake of war rubbish is only benefitting a very small number of people. Folks should be protected within their own borders where they can party their lives away in peace & tranquility with their fellow countrymen. The warmongers need to be identified & hunted down then imprisoned for life. Both the Russians & Ukrainians have lost a LOT of folks & for what??? Quality ambassadorship should have easily averted this senseless conflict.

Ukraine lost troops, as well as civilian men, women and children because Putin decided to invade to take over. Ukraine is resisting Russian rule. I do not blame them a bit. The number of men Putin is sacrificing is amazing. Many Russian soldiers just do not see why they should be invading and dying for Putin's dream of renewed empire, simply not worth dying for.

 

[georgephillip]

A mess from the moment Biden was installed in the White House.

But ask yourself this. Why did the deep state so want Biden over Trump?

Well?

War. Because there is so much money in war for so many people.

And that is why the same people want Harris.

​

Ukrainians are increasingly open to negotiating an end to the war with Russia, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.​

​

The growing frustration with the war is leading more Ukrainians to consider the possibility of a negotiated peace. In July, a Kyiv International Institute of Sociology(KIIS) survey found that about 44% of Ukrainians are open to territorial concessions to achieve peace and preserve independence, according to The New York Times.​

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Nadia Ivashchenko, 28, a railway signal operator from central Kirovohrad, admitted she couldn’t outline what a favorable peace settlement would look like. Her husband has been serving in the army since Russia’s invasion in February 2022, and their five-year-old son has not seen his father for years. “So many people died, and what for?” Ivashchenko said. “But I want everything to be finished, at least somehow, because I have a son, and I don’t want him to grow up in such a wartime as now,” according to The New York Times.​

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The KIIS poll reveals that between May 2022 and May 2023, roughly 8% to 10% of respondents were open to territorial concessions, while a significant majority, 82% to 87%, consistently opposed them. However, since May 2023, more people have become willing to consider concessions. By the end of 2023, 19% were ready to make concessions; this figure grew to 26% by February, and increased to 32% in May.​

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NATO expansion is the taproot of the current bloodbath in Ukraine, and it's been a bipartisan strategy since Clinton came to DC:

https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf(P. 2/12)

"As the Cold War came to a close, Soviet leaders preferred that U.S.forces remain in Europe and NATO stay intact, an arrangement theythought would keep a reuni)ed Germany paci)ed.

"But they and their Russian successors did not want NATO to grow any larger and assumed that Western diplomats understood their concerns.

"The Clinton administration evidently thought otherwise, and in the mid-1990s, it began pushing for NATO to expand."