Zone1 Mandelbrot Sets -- Proof of God?

[alang1216]

Yes, "We may choose to ignore it, but when we do we know we are doing wrong." And is proof that morality is universal and can't be anything man wants it to be. Thus it is independent of man.

Can you offer any 'universal' moral stricture that is from God and not from man's culture?

 

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without the spiritual, the physiology will perish ...

no, those the nazi were the crucifiers in the 1st century - and who wrote the christian bible - - that's you bing. and were the nazi by name and worshiped hitler last century - again same as you bing.

- the paradisians, deist as yours truly and jesus date back to a&e ...

Crucify on!!

 

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Can you offer any 'universal' moral stricture that is from God and not from man's culture?

Genesis 3:8-13

You said it yourself... You know right from wrong and when you violate it rather than abandoning the concept you rationalize you didn't do wrong.

We may choose to ignore it, but when we do we know we are doing wrong.

 

[alang1216]

Solzhenitsyn didn't write the book. Shafarevich wrote the book. Shafarevich is the humanist.

Is this the guy:
Igor Rostislavovich Shafarevich (Russian: И́горь Ростисла́вович Шафаре́вич; 3 June 1923 – 19 February 2017) was a Soviet and Russian mathematician who contributed to algebraic number theory and algebraic geometry. Outside mathematics, he wrote books and articles that criticised socialism and other books which were described as anti-semitic. Shafarevich adhered to Russian Orthodox Christianity

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a humanist.

 

[alang1216]

Genesis 3:8-13

You said it yourself... You know right from wrong and when you violate it rather than abandoning the concept you rationalize you didn't do wrong.

Do you believe the story is literally true or are you using a myth as an example? Hardly convincing either way.

 

[BreezeWood]

Crucify on!!

no, those the nazi were the crucifiers in the 1st century - and who wrote the christian bible - - that's you bing. and were the nazi by name and worshiped hitler last century - again same as you bing.

your choice, the religion of unrepentant sinners - sinner.

a&e recognized the occurrence and sought to remedy the anomaly - they are who made possible through self determination the ability to defeat evil to be admitted as themselves to the everlasting - as taught by jesus, liberation theology the triumph of good vs evil.

sorry, the desert doesn't make the cut. good luck.

 

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Is this the guy:
Igor Rostislavovich Shafarevich (Russian: И́горь Ростисла́вович Шафаре́вич; 3 June 1923 – 19 February 2017) was a Soviet and Russian mathematician who contributed to algebraic number theory and algebraic geometry. Outside mathematics, he wrote books and articles that criticised socialism and other books which were described as anti-semitic. Shafarevich adhered to Russian Orthodox Christianity

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a humanist.

Solzhenitsyn - who wrote the forward for Shafarevich's book - did and even stated it in his famous Harvard Address.

 

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Do you believe the story is literally true or are you using a myth as an example? Hardly convincing either way.

I am telling you it is a fundamental truth that man knows right from wrong and when he violates it rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn't violate it.

That's how ingrained and universal man's sense of fairness is.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I am telling you it is a fundamental truth that man knows right from wrong and when he violates it rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn't violate it.

That's how ingrained and universal man's sense of fairness is.

There goes any defense you could have otherwise attempted due to insanity! The rest of us remain good.

 

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There goes any defense you could have otherwise attempted due to insanity! The rest of us remain good.

It's your sense of fairness that you can't get rid of which is the greatest proof of God.

 

[alang1216]

I am telling you it is a fundamental truth that man knows right from wrong and when he violates it rather than abandoning the concept he rationalizes he didn't violate it.

Man learns right from wrong from those around him. It is why right and wrong differ between cultures and times.

That's how ingrained and universal man's sense of fairness is.

No such thing. We honor and celebrate the achievements of a man who brought war and death to vast numbers of people while we vilify others that did the same thing. I'm thinking of Hitler and Alexander the Great but there are plenty of others.

 

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Man learns right from wrong from those around him. It is why right and wrong differ between cultures and times.


No such thing. We honor and celebrate the achievements of a man who brought war and death to vast numbers of people while we vilify others that did the same thing. I'm thinking of Hitler and Alexander the Great but there are plenty of others.

I say man's ability to know right from wrong is innate and logical. Your sense of fairness and your expectation that everyone else should know and understand it reveals your real belief in a universal concept that you expect everyone to know, understand and accept. Almost every argument you have ever had is proof of God's existence.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I say man's ability to know right from wrong is innate and logical.

We're not social animals? Any of us? Proudly sociopathic much?

Social Species | Research A to Z

az.research.umich.edu

SQUIRREL!

 

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We're not social animals? Any of us? Proudly sociopathic much?

Social Species | Research A to Z

az.research.umich.edu

SQUIRREL!

If only you actually violated the ideals of morality without remorse, then you might have a point. As it stands now, almost every argument you make is a moral argument and proves you believe morals are universal and truth is universal. You are a walking billboard for God.

 

[Grumblenuts]

It's your sense of fairness that you can't get rid of which is the greatest proof of God.

Those big glasses, nostrils, and teeth hide not the stubborn, vacuous little brain cavity stuck behind.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Look.. See? I wave my little pee pee in your general direction!

 

[Grumblenuts]

If only you actually violated the ideals of morality without remorse, then you might have a point. As it stands now, almost every argument you make is a moral argument and proves you believe morals are universal and truth is universal. You are a walking billboard for God.

Flattering obfuscator! Now try addressing the 3 simple questions you were asked instead..

We're not social animals? Any of us? Proudly sociopathic much?

 

[alang1216]

It's your sense of fairness that you can't get rid of which is the greatest proof of God.

I think the fact that everyone has their own concept of what is fair is the greatest proof there is NO God.

 

[alang1216]

I say man's ability to know right from wrong is innate and logical. Your sense of fairness and your expectation that everyone else should know and understand it reveals your real belief in a universal concept that you expect everyone to know, understand and accept. Almost every argument you have ever had is proof of God's existence.

The world is a Rorschach test, you see in it what you want to see in it and ignore the noise.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I think the fact that everyone has their own concept of what is fair is the greatest proof there is NO God.

No need for any stinkin' Ten Commandments. No child molesting priests or pastors. No gaudy, massive, religious indoctrination centers..