Man blocks black delivery driver in Oklahoma neighborhood

[Mello711]

I would have cursed him until he cried and then drove off. Probably would have side swiped the hell out of his car too

 

[Mello711]

What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.

There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?

You sound crazy. People will make up any stupid excuse to justify stupid behavior. Against the rules to receive furniture on certain days? Cmon now, be better

 

[Mello711]

What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.

There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?

Don't demean yourself grasping at straws.
I live in a HOA community and can guarantee you, few, if any, have your contrived rule about homeowner deliveries.
Especially since everybody does internet orders!

Gated communities have rules. Don't like them? Move.

That's the reason for the gate in the first place. So that the HOA knows who is there, and what their business is. As far as these black guys are concerned, if they were really there just for a legitimate delivery to a legitimate customer, they should have just said so. The idea of Furniture Delivery- Customer confidentiality isn't part of American jurisprudence

They were in a delivery truck! I’m pretty sure people are having lots of things delivered. Groceries, Amazon, DoorDash,

 

[Levant]

They had every right to ask - even though they only asked the black man. Nothing can prevent an asshole from being an asshole and nothing can prevent a racist from being a racist. They can ask and Miller can tell them to fuck off and keep driving. It's when they blocked his way that it became illegal.

So how do you know this is the person and only person they have ever stopped? You can't because you don't. Your bigotry is filling in the gaps of missing information for your argument.

Actually, it is you and others filling in the missing information and assuming he has stopped others. I'm going with the evidence at hand: there's zero evidence of him having stopped anyone else. If you have other evidence, you should present it. Instead, you're making up ideas that you pretend are in evidence when they are not. I would love to hear that Stewart's an asshole to all races. That there are assholes in the world, I can live with - I've been known to be one myself. I'm far less tolerant of racists.

 

[Polishprince]

What a shocker the racists here assume because the men who stopped him were white racism had to be their motivation.

There could have been any number of motivations here. Maybe it is against the rules of the Homeowners Association to receive deliveries of furniture on certain days or times- so they know it couldn't have been a delivery?

You sound crazy. People will make up any stupid excuse to justify stupid behavior. Against the rules to receive furniture on certain days? Cmon now, be better

HOA's were established by people that like to set up and enforce rules. That's what they do.

If the people there didn't want a tightly enforced code on their private property, they would have never set up the HOA in the first place.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You can't "lawfully" detain someone unless you have proof of a crime (like blood all over the driver
and a bloody axe in his hand). The most you can do is get information and relay it to the cops.
That no one on the pro racist side wants to acknowledge this is amazing.

He wasnt detained. Quit using words you dont understand. At no time was he cuffed. His vehicle was blocked, but that isnt detainment. If it WAS detainment, Black Lives Matter would all be in prison right now for all the traffic they blocked.

Actually I was right and you can be detained without every coming near hand cuffs.
Look it up. Ironically it's you who don't quite understand the word.

Yep. if you're not free to leave, you're being detained.

 

[Levant]

I attended a BLM rally here in Seattle back in 2015 I think it was. We had police escorts, they even threw blocks for us so that we could proceed through the intersections without interruption from vehicle traffic.

It was the first time I've ever marched for a cause and I found it to be a positive experience. I marched specifically because of what was done to Sandra Bland thinking that could have easily have happened to me since I have driven across Texas on more than a few occassions while in college, the last time alone.

But to answer your question - it was a lawful assembly with permission of the City of Seattle which is why we had police protection.

Out of control police kill people of all races. I think the phrase "all lives matter" was co-opted by a racist group but that group aside, I'll march when it's about stopping all unjustified shooting by the police or government.

 

[Levant]

So why wasnt BLM arrested all those times they blocked HUNDREDS of people?

Once again, start another thread; this one's about a white man blocking a black delivery driver because he was black. Stewart didn't have a permit for a demonstration nor was he exercising his right to assemble to express grievances to the government so that's a totally unrelated scenario except one thing. You focused on, and assigned fault, in both cases the black people.

If you're really concerned about BLM protests blocking traffic, you'll hugely improve your credibility as soon as you post the links to your objections to the traffic blocked in this gun rights protest in Virginia. I'll be waiting for those links. Any other "conservatives" here, the invitation goes to you, too.



Conservatives would defend the right of peaceful assembly to protest anything. Liberty can sure be inconvenient sometimes.

On the other hand, Democrats should understand the right is to peacefully assemble and they forget that.

 

[Godboy]

So why wasnt BLM arrested all those times they blocked HUNDREDS of people?

That's a question for the police and civil authorities to answer.
It has nothing whatsoever to do with the proper definition of "detain".

You let me know when they file charges against them for "detaining" them.

 

[Godboy]

You can't "lawfully" detain someone unless you have proof of a crime (like blood all over the driver
and a bloody axe in his hand). The most you can do is get information and relay it to the cops.
That no one on the pro racist side wants to acknowledge this is amazing.

He wasnt detained. Quit using words you dont understand. At no time was he cuffed. His vehicle was blocked, but that isnt detainment. If it WAS detainment, Black Lives Matter would all be in prison right now for all the traffic they blocked.

Actually I was right and you can be detained without every coming near hand cuffs.
Look it up. Ironically it's you who don't quite understand the word.

So why wasnt BLM arrested all those times they blocked HUNDREDS of people?

I attended a BLM rally here in Seattle back in 2015 I think it was. We had police escorts, they even threw blocks for us so that we could proceed through the intersections without interruption from vehicle traffic.

It was the first time I've ever marched for a cause and I found it to be a positive experience. I marched specifically because of what was done to Sandra Bland thinking that could have easily have happened to me since I have driven across Texas on more than a few occassions while in college, the last time alone.

But to answer your question - it was a lawful assembly with permission of the City of Seattle which is why we had police protection.

Generally organized protests get police protection because you have to fill out the appropriate paperwork.

Which BLM almost NEVER does.

 

[Godboy]

So why wasnt BLM arrested all those times they blocked HUNDREDS of people?

Once again, start another thread; this one's about a white man blocking a black delivery driver because he was black. Stewart didn't have a permit for a demonstration nor was he exercising his right to assemble to express grievances to the government so that's a totally unrelated scenario except one thing. You focused on, and assigned fault, in both cases the black people.

If you're really concerned about BLM protests blocking traffic, you'll hugely improve your credibility as soon as you post the links to your objections to the traffic blocked in this gun rights protest in Virginia. I'll be waiting for those links. Any other "conservatives" here, the invitation goes to you, too.



Conservatives would defend the right of peaceful assembly to protest anything. Liberty can sure be inconvenient sometimes.

On the other hand, Democrats should understand the right is to peacefully assemble and they forget that.

If blocking a car was inherently illegal, BLM would have gone to jail for it a bunch of times. You can prattle on all you want, but nothing will change that fact.

 

[Levant]

You let me know when they file charges against them for "detaining" them.

Miller demonstrated that he was the better man by not pressing charges and calling the police off.

 

[Levant]

If blocking a car was inherently illegal, BLM would have gone to jail for it a bunch of times. You can prattle on all you want, but nothing will change that fact.

I don't know if it is or is not illegal. All I care is that there's equal justice under the law (the thing that true liberals and true conservatives both care about) - and since no one is generally arrested for obstructing traffic during a protest, I'd say that's how we want it. If they arrest BLM then they must arrest the Virginia gun owners for obstructing traffic.

 

[Godboy]

If blocking a car was inherently illegal, BLM would have gone to jail for it a bunch of times. You can prattle on all you want, but nothing will change that fact.

I don't know if it is or is not illegal. All I care is that there's equal justice under the law (the thing that true liberals and true conservatives both care about) - and since no one is generally arrested for obstructing traffic during a protest, I'd say that's how we want it. If they arrest BLM then they must arrest the Virginia gun owners for obstructing traffic.

You do realize that its leftwingers who do 99% of all the traffic blocking, right?

 

[Levant]

Generally organized protests get police protection because you have to fill out the appropriate paperwork.

Which BLM almost NEVER does.

Like some others here, you must have one of those new-fangled living version of the Constitution - the one that requires a permit to exercise one's constitutional rights. I have only the original, as amended, version so I can't look it up. Can you quote from yours so we can all understand where that paperwork thing is required?

 

[Levant]

If blocking a car was inherently illegal, BLM would have gone to jail for it a bunch of times. You can prattle on all you want, but nothing will change that fact.

I don't know if it is or is not illegal. All I care is that there's equal justice under the law (the thing that true liberals and true conservatives both care about) - and since no one is generally arrested for obstructing traffic during a protest, I'd say that's how we want it. If they arrest BLM then they must arrest the Virginia gun owners for obstructing traffic.

You do realize that its leftwingers who do 99% of all the traffic blocking, right?

I do realize that the left does do most.. 80%? 90%, 99%? Who knows.. But what that ratio proves is that we conservatives aren't doing enough protesting. We need to get out more.

 

[Godboy]

If blocking a car was inherently illegal, BLM would have gone to jail for it a bunch of times. You can prattle on all you want, but nothing will change that fact.

I don't know if it is or is not illegal. All I care is that there's equal justice under the law (the thing that true liberals and true conservatives both care about) - and since no one is generally arrested for obstructing traffic during a protest, I'd say that's how we want it. If they arrest BLM then they must arrest the Virginia gun owners for obstructing traffic.

You do realize that its leftwingers who do 99% of all the traffic blocking, right?

I do realize that the left does do most.. 80%? 90%, 99%? Who knows.. But what that ratio proves is that we conservatives aren't doing enough protesting. We need to get out more.

We constantly protest. We just dont burn shit down when we do it.

 

[IM2]

Table 43A

Table 43

ucr.fbi.gov

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Race	Ethnicity
	Total arrests	Percent distribution1	Total arrests	Percent distribution1
Offense charged	Total	White	Black or African American	American Indian or Alaska Native	Asian	Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander	Total	White	Black or African American	American Indian or Alaska Native	Asian	Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander	Total2	Hispanic or Latino	Not Hispanic or Latino	Total	Hispanic or Latino	Not Hispanic or Latino
TOTAL	7,710,900	5,319,654	2,115,381	164,430	92,737	18,698	100.0	69.0	27.4	2.1	1.2	0.2	6,343,684	1,191,334	5,152,350	100.0	18.8	81.2
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter	8,957	3,953	4,778	105	94	27	100.0	44.1	53.3	1.2	1.0	0.3	7,050	1,472	5,578	100.0	20.9	79.1
Rape3	18,776	12,794	5,376	267	289	50	100.0	68.1	28.6	1.4	1.5	0.3	15,316	4,090	11,226	100.0	26.7	73.3
Robbery	66,789	29,025	36,187	676	641	260	100.0	43.5	54.2	1.0	1.0	0.4	57,048	12,823	44,225	100.0	22.5	77.5
Aggravated assault	298,040	184,527	100,393	6,736	5,078	1,306	100.0	61.9	33.7	2.3	1.7	0.4	254,614	65,056	189,558	100.0	25.6	74.4
Burglary	134,542	91,581	39,617	1,590	1,422	332	100.0	68.1	29.4	1.2	1.1	0.2	114,027	23,200	90,827	100.0	20.3	79.7
Larceny-theft	669,983	448,193	201,086	11,987	7,324	1,393	100.0	66.9	30.0	1.8	1.1	0.2	540,174	78,106	462,068	100.0	14.5	85.5
Motor vehicle theft	69,002	44,512	22,305	1,151	818	216	100.0	64.5	32.3	1.7	1.2	0.3	56,263	14,392	41,871	100.0	25.6	74.4
Arson	6,946	4,938	1,740	137	101	30	100.0	71.1	25.1	2.0	1.5	0.4	5,790	1,055	4,735	100.0	18.2	81.8
Violent crime4	392,562	230,299	146,734	7,784	6,102	1,643	100.0	58.7	37.4	2.0	1.6	0.4	334,028	83,441	250,587	100.0	25.0	75.0
Property crime4	880,473	589,224	264,748	14,865	9,665	1,971	100.0	66.9	30.1	1.7	1.1	0.2	716,254	116,753	599,501	100.0	16.3	83.7
Other assaults	794,787	512,025	254,360	15,711	10,348	2,343	100.0	64.4	32.0	2.0	1.3	0.3	654,150	125,007	529,143	100.0	19.1	80.9
Forgery and counterfeiting	37,724	25,140	11,637	335	548	64	100.0	66.6	30.8	0.9	1.5	0.2	31,565	5,301	26,264	100.0	16.8	83.2
Fraud	89,610	58,572	28,387	1,419	1,088	144	100.0	65.4	31.7	1.6	1.2	0.2	74,521	9,636	64,885	100.0	12.9	87.1
Embezzlement	11,174	6,923	3,955	122	159	15	100.0	62.0	35.4	1.1	1.4	0.1	9,252	1,193	8,059	100.0	12.9	87.1
Stolen property; buying, receiving, possessing	69,874	44,179	23,661	881	819	334	100.0	63.2	33.9	1.3	1.2	0.5	57,379	11,278	46,101	100.0	19.7	80.3
Vandalism	134,794	91,176	38,887	2,949	1,552	230	100.0	67.6	28.8	2.2	1.2	0.2	112,716	21,479	91,237	100.0	19.1	80.9
Weapons; carrying, possessing, etc.	126,332	68,756	54,715	1,094	1,390	377	100.0	54.4	43.3	0.9	1.1	0.3	100,312	23,663	76,649	100.0	23.6	76.4
Prostitution and commercialized vice	23,502	12,928	9,109	95	1,309	61	100.0	55.0	38.8	0.4	5.6	0.3	21,484	4,379	17,105	100.0	20.4	79.6
Sex offenses (except rape and prostitution)	35,157	25,338	8,403	587	751	78	100.0	72.1	23.9	1.7	2.1	0.2	28,928	7,398	21,530	100.0	25.6	74.4
Drug abuse violations	1,234,178	871,295	333,113	14,148	13,345	2,277	100.0	70.6	27.0	1.1	1.1	0.2	1,044,789	211,692	833,097	100.0	20.3	79.7
Gambling	2,465	1,000	1,198	11	205	51	100.0	40.6	48.6	0.4	8.3	2.1	1,390	341	1,049	100.0	24.5	75.5
Offenses against the family and children	64,357	43,371	18,530	1,895	510	51	100.0	67.4	28.8	2.9	0.8	0.1	51,589	5,999	45,590	100.0	11.6	88.4
Driving under the influence	736,644	597,919	108,703	13,150	14,323	2,549	100.0	81.2	14.8	1.8	1.9	0.3	604,136	147,221	456,915	100.0	24.4	75.6
Liquor laws	128,453	100,687	18,743	6,973	1,876	174	100.0	78.4	14.6	5.4	1.5	0.1	102,624	15,979	86,645	100.0	15.6	84.4
Drunkenness	251,490	193,042	37,781	17,412	2,825	430	100.0	76.8	15.0	6.9	1.1	0.2	233,325	52,491	180,834	100.0	22.5	77.5
Disorderly conduct	248,716	158,533	78,192	9,770	1,926	295	100.0	63.7	31.4	3.9	0.8	0.1	186,261	24,553	161,708	100.0	13.2	86.8
Vagrancy	18,048	12,823	4,458	482	261	24	100.0	71.0	24.7	2.7	1.4	0.1	16,649	2,557	14,092	100.0	15.4	84.6
All other offenses (except traffic)	2,413,408	1,666,825	663,086	54,410	23,550	5,537	100.0	69.1	27.5	2.3	1.0	0.2	1,947,281	317,928	1,629,353	100.0	16.3	83.7
Suspicion	432	237	129	65	1	0	100.0	54.9	29.9	15.0	0.2	0.0	390	15	375	100.0	3.8	96.2
Curfew and loitering law violations	16,720	9,362	6,852	272	184	50	100.0	56.0	41.0	1.6	1.1	0.3

Thanks for pointing this out.It shows just how dangerous blacks are.These crimes are blacks aged 18-30 years old.About 5% of the population.No wonder white folks are scared.

Wrong answer there buddy. These were total arrests. The numbers show the exact opposite. They show the number of people in the population who were arrested, That means all who were not arrested do not apply and are not counted. And what we see is that whites were arrested 2.5 times more than blacks. That whites lead in all but three categories of crime making them more apt to commit a crime than anyone else by far.

It is certainly true that the African American community does defend itself against Honky crime with organizations like the Black Gestapo.

Since Black Gestapo was a movie....

AND WE'VE BEEN OVER THAT FACT....

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I know that you dispute this documentary, but even if the Black Gestapo isn't exactly as portrayed in the film, it still shows the fear of Honky Crime among blacks.

That was no documentary idiot. I watched the movie when I was a kid.

 

[IM2]

If blocking a car was inherently illegal, BLM would have gone to jail for it a bunch of times. You can prattle on all you want, but nothing will change that fact.

I don't know if it is or is not illegal. All I care is that there's equal justice under the law (the thing that true liberals and true conservatives both care about) - and since no one is generally arrested for obstructing traffic during a protest, I'd say that's how we want it. If they arrest BLM then they must arrest the Virginia gun owners for obstructing traffic.

You do realize that its leftwingers who do 99% of all the traffic blocking, right?

I do realize that the left does do most.. 80%? 90%, 99%? Who knows.. But what that ratio proves is that we conservatives aren't doing enough protesting. We need to get out more.

Stop blaming the left for things everybody does. And what are conservatives going to protest? Because right now conservatives are protesting the right for whites to do things they have always been able to do. So when conservatives join in the protests for those affected by inequality instead of protesting for more inequality, more draconian laws and more oppression, then things will change.

 

[IM2]

If blocking a car was inherently illegal, BLM would have gone to jail for it a bunch of times. You can prattle on all you want, but nothing will change that fact.

I don't know if it is or is not illegal. All I care is that there's equal justice under the law (the thing that true liberals and true conservatives both care about) - and since no one is generally arrested for obstructing traffic during a protest, I'd say that's how we want it. If they arrest BLM then they must arrest the Virginia gun owners for obstructing traffic.

You do realize that its leftwingers who do 99% of all the traffic blocking, right?

I do realize that the left does do most.. 80%? 90%, 99%? Who knows.. But what that ratio proves is that we conservatives aren't doing enough protesting. We need to get out more.

We constantly protest. We just dont burn shit down when we do it.

Thats a lie.