Maga starts to implode

Yes that fits straight into the far right trumpanzee ideology, coerce, torture people who don't share your devotion. It's nothing new, those of us who can read (which rules out trumpanzees) have seen this before and expect to see it again.

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You on the left are SO desperate to have Trump fail it's bordering on farce! You know what's coming...don't you? We're going to have a repeat of what happened during the first three years of the Trump Administration...before Covid.
Yes that's right, we're so desperate to see trump fail that we are forced to make up lies about MAGA devotees seeing him fail.

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Here's the post he endorsed

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From two years ago:

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So there we are, Musk thinks Americans are retarded (because they don't want to work 84 hours a week) and you are such spineless cult members all you can do is attack the messenger.

You idiotic trumpanzees voted for this and I'm laughing my ass off watching all this unfold :auiqs.jpg:
 
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MAGA is doing just fine.

Elon is getting out of line and has find out real quick what we think.

We don’t blindly follow anyone. If they have a dumb idea, we tell them.


Concept is foreign to lefties. They snap their fingers and tell you that you must accept men in girls bathrooms, you all just go along with it. We aren’t like you.


Wait, what? You won't blindly follow anyone? Then please explain how & why you're following Trump, when this is his actual record?


Assaulted our 2A.
Let the DoJ write gun laws
Spend $8 trillion in 4 years.
Vetoed only 1 spending bill in 4 years (Because it didn't spend enough)
Tried to shove a national healthcare plan down our throats.
Increase the debt ceiling 4 times and suspend it for 2 years.
Now wants to eliminate the debt ceiling all together.
Reauthorized warrantless spying on Americans
Tried to give blacks $500 billion just for being black
Gave rich foreign countries like Israel $5 billion every year
Give historical black colleges a millions
Give womens organizations millions.
And recently, pledge to have the Federal Government pay for women IVF's


Are you republicans being lead left of center by Trump? Or are you simply turning into democrats on your own? Because none of that in the list are things a Republican president should have on his record. Not one.

And BTW, you Trump supporters can't put all this on Elon. All of this H1B stuff was discussed by Trump & Elon before Elon started tweeting his support for all the H1B's he wanted. Trump and Elon are in lock step with each other on this.
 
In a real working government we'd see a place for training and apprenticeships to increase the skill levels in the workforce but in the mess that is MAGA we see infighting as differing ideologies emerge and the tensions become visible to us all.

I agree with a lot of your post. But this instance, ^^^^, I can't. Because in a real working constitutional republic, the government wouldn't be involved in education at any level.

Elon and other tech companies could simply sponsor foreigners and get their H1B's. And it wouldn't be "automatic" as Trump suggests.

On a personal level, if Trump was really concerned with keeping Americans working, he would've already fired Elon. But the two are in lock step in their support for more foreigners taking American tech jobs.
 
MAGA is doing just fine.

Elon is getting out of line and has find out real quick what we think.

We don’t blindly follow anyone. If they have a dumb idea, we tell them.


Concept is foreign to lefties. They snap their fingers and tell you that you must accept men in girls bathrooms, you all just go along with it. We aren’t like you.
But back to the topic. Isnt it better to train Americans than import Indians ? Better for the US I mean.
 
Some of you trumpanzees are funny, so excited and full of hope like everyone was on the Titanic once :auiqs.jpg:

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Captain Trump of the RMS Titanic​

There isn't any iceberg.
There was an iceberg, but it's in a totally different ocean.
The iceberg is in this ocean, but it will melt very soon.
There is an iceberg, but we didn't hit the iceberg.
We hit the iceberg, but the damage will be repaired very shortly.
The iceberg is a Chinese iceberg.
We are taking on water, but every passenger who wants a lifeboat can get a lifeboat, and they are beautiful lifeboats.
Look, passengers need to ask nicely for the lifeboats if they want them.
We don't have any lifeboats, we're not lifeboat distributors.
Passengers should have planned for icebergs and brought their own lifeboats.
I really don't think we need that many lifeboats.
We have lifeboats and they're supposed to be our lifeboats, not the passengers' lifeboats.
The lifeboats were left on shore by the last captain of this ship.
Nobody could have foreseen the iceberg.
 
Musk (and other wealthy tech leaders) want to increase legal immigration and the number of H1B visas in order to get the skills they need. Yet other MAGA diehards are dead set against this because it undermines the opportunities for American workers.

In a real working government we'd see a place for training and apprenticeships to increase the skill levels in the workforce but in the mess that is MAGA we see infighting as differing ideologies emerge and the tensions become visible to us all.

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I myself am an immigrant originally working here on a H1B Visa, but I also advocate for training programs and apprenticeships and feel that the tech sector should be compelled - by laws - to offer training to address any skills shortage rather than bringing thousands of Indian and Chinese workers.

So MAGA is now going to be MAWA Make America Win Again - these morons are al lover the place !

But Trump and the trumpanzees are all too stupid to consider these idea hence the infighting - all of them are idiots :auiqs.jpg:
The beginning of the end? Walls closing in? Seems I've heard that before.
 
What a stupid moniker "Freedom is never free" when the fuck has any white American had to fight for their freedom since the revolution? Never, but the country sure has deprived millions of their freedom around the world, talk about uneducated, talk about cult mentality.
Now you're denying American history.
War of 1812, Spanish-American War, French-Indian war.
I could go on, but why? That's enough for you to learn about that you were obviously ignorant of before just now. And it wasn't all just white Americans, it was everybody that was here.
Who the fuck taught you all this erroneous bullshit?
You better go get you some remedial history classes or something.
 
Musk (and other wealthy tech leaders) want to increase legal immigration and the number of H1B visas in order to get the skills they need. Yet other MAGA diehards are dead set against this because it undermines the opportunities for American workers.

In a real working government we'd see a place for training and apprenticeships to increase the skill levels in the workforce but in the mess that is MAGA we see infighting as differing ideologies emerge and the tensions become visible to us all.

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I myself am an immigrant originally working here on a H1B Visa, but I also advocate for training programs and apprenticeships and feel that the tech sector should be compelled - by laws - to offer training to address any skills shortage rather than bringing thousands of Indian and Chinese workers.

So MAGA is now going to be MAWA Make America Win Again - these morons are al lover the place !

But Trump and the trumpanzees are all too stupid to consider these idea hence the infighting - all of them are idiots
Right Wingers are for legal immigration that benefits America controlled by the number of visas. Those numbers are set where there's a kill shortage. If there's a shortage, you can't harm American workers because those visas mean there's not enough Americans to fill those jobs. The further Right you go, they oppose all immigration.

Now go the other way, Left Wingers want illegal immigration, the further Left you go, they want to replace all Americans with illegal immigrant workers.

The problem America has, like many Western countries, the population is roughly split 50/50 between Right Wing and Left Wing. So countries just have half a skilled work force. So we need to rethink the education systems to help our Left Wing countrymen to edu-ma-cate up to be suitable for employment.
 
Gonna be a long four years for leftists

I can't even imagine what they'll try to trot out against Orange Man, they ran the gambiit last time
You know how Democrats roll, they'll roll the entire playbook by the numbers again +1-2 new tricks.
They do it every time. Case in point: This thread.
Right now it's the rehash of "Bombshell! The walls are closing in, it's the beginning of the end"
before Trump takes office. :rolleyes-41:
 
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I myself am an immigrant originally working here on a H1B Visa, but I also advocate for training programs and apprenticeships and feel that the tech sector should be compelled - by laws - to offer training to address any skills shortage rather than bringing thousands of Indian and Chinese workers.

Henry Ford Trade School (Ford Apprentice School) at the Rouge Plant, Dearborn, Michigan, 1938

Boys who attended the Henry Ford Trade School learned by doing. The school, the brainchild of Henry Ford, trained teenage boys in a variety of skilled industrial trade work -- machining, metallurgy, drafting, and engine design, among others. Students created useful components for local factories in hands-on lab and shop classes. In addition to the manual training received, academic classes were required.

MAGA's needs only open a history book for the solution.
 
Now you're denying American history.
War of 1812, Spanish-American War, French-Indian war.
I could go on, but why? That's enough for you to learn about that you were obviously ignorant of before just now. And it wasn't all just white Americans, it was everybody that was here.
Spanish-American War, French-Indian war?

The French-Indian war predates the revolutionary war.
And the Spanish-American war resulted in the U.S. gaining control of Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Philippines, and a protectorate over Cuba.
 
Spanish-American War, French-Indian war?

The French-Indian war predates the revolutionary war.
And the Spanish-American war resulted in the U.S. gaining control of Guam, Puerto Rico, and the Philippines, and a protectorate over Cuba.
Now do the War of 1812, and the Mexican thing, too.
STFU. WW2 where we killed Nazis and Japs.
 
Now do the War of 1812, and the Mexican thing, too.
STFU. WW2 where we killed Nazis and Japs.
Whether it was WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam etc.
None were over protecting our freedoms at home.
None involved the invasion of the American mainland.

The only true war over freedom was the civil war.
 
The war of 1812 was over territorial expansion.
 
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