Lucky or Good?

[Dr.Traveler]

I've seen this start to be debated on other forums, but I'm curious: Is Hillary Clinton Lucky or Good?

As a starting point: She's leading Trump in the RCP Polling average by 5.9 points. In the 4 way average she leads by 4.3 points. She's leading the Electoral Vote count at Electoral-Vote.com by 343-195. In the FiveThirtyEight models she's got a 77% chance of winning in Polls-Plus and 85.4% chance of winning in Polls only.

That's an incredible lead at this point.

But the question is this: Is she leading but she's that strong of a candidate? Or because she's lucky to be facing a terrible candidate in Trump?

My opinion: She's lucky. She's clearly qualified to run and clearly knows how to play the game, but she makes a lot of unforced errors. She's not a very warm person. She avoids press conferences like the plague. I think against a generic Republican she'd be struggling right now.

 

[Siete]

she leads Trump by double digits in a couple of swing states because shes better at campaigning than he is. Press conferences are irrelevant for her at this point. Why even bother? The RW's were angry and ignored two candidates that could have beat her. They deserve everything they're getting.

at the end of the day, Clinton is good (at mounting a campaign), and Republicans are stupid (on all levels).

IMO

 

[Pete7469]

Neither...

She's criminally insane.

If she were a republicrat she'd be in prison and bed wetting libturds would be pushing for execution on charges of treason.

 

[Dekster]

The skill with which she rigged the nomination process was not luck--deception is a well-honed skill with the Clintons. As for the general election she is having trouble sealing the deal. Even MSNBC is scrutinizing her today about her special access to donor and BIll's for-profit college work.

 

[g5000]

I've seen this start to be debated on other forums, but I'm curious: Is Hillary Clinton Lucky or Good?

She is both. Mostly lucky, though.

Lucky? She is running against Trump! How much luckier could she be? She'd have been totally fucked against a Kasich/Rubio ticket.

She is incredibly fortunate the GOP put up the worst possible candidate against her. The GOP sabotages itself. I mean, come on! They couldn't beat an incompetent Muslim socialist Kenyan (negro) with zero experience! They lost to him TWO TIMES! BWA-HA-HA-HA!

And now...they puke up Trump. It's as if the pseudocon tards actually wanted Obama and then Clinton to occupy the White House.

Good? Well, it is actually her husband who is good. That's where the real political talent is. Bill is a political genius. All Hillary has going for her is unrelenting ambition. When she sets her sights on something, NOTHING will stop her.

Over the past 3 decades, Bill and Hillary have built an invulnerable political organization. Their grass roots have had a long time to grow, and have been carefully watered. They now go very deep. Not even the worst hurricane winds originated by the blowhards on the Right can dislodge the Clintons.

 

[Claudette]

She's good at covering herself and that's about all she's good at.

The woman is stupid, careless and incompetent as her handling of Benghazi and her e-mail fiasco prove.

The really sad thing is that she will never be held accountable for anything.

 

[Dekster]

The USA Today openly calling for the Clinton Foundation to shut down is a turning point in this campaign. The stench of her special access to donors is going to put a big dink in her armor.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

The USA Today openly calling for the Clinton Foundation to shut down is a turning point in this campaign. The stench of her special access to donors is going to put a big dink in her armor.

This is an example of why I'd say she's more lucky than good. Folks running for President should be more careful, and Hillary has known she was running for years (probably since at least 1992). You can run foundations and trusts blind to insulate you. That's not an uncommon approach. That you can connect the dots at all is pretty alarming.

She's really benefited from the fact that any time she'd have a bad headline Trump bailed her out. She has a lot of political skill, but she's also been very lucky in her match up in the general.