Lost in Occupation: ScarJo ends relationship with Oxfam to stick with Soda Stream
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“Pro-Palestinians” Versus Real Palestinians
Evelyn Gordon | @EvelynCGordon 01.31.2014 - 9:20 AM
If you want to understand the difference between people who are actually pro-Palestinian and those who routinely but falsely claim that label, it’s worth reading the Forward’s interview with SodaStream CEO Daniel Birnbaum. The headline, of course, was Birnbaum’s admission that having a plant in a West Bank settlement is “a pain in the ass,” and he would “never” locate there today. But the most striking comment was his answer to the question of why, in that case, he doesn’t shut the West Bank plant and transfer its operations to SodaStream’s new facility in the Negev, which has ample capacity:
The reason for staying is loyalty to approximately 500 Palestinians who are among the plantÂ’s 1,300 employees, Birnbaum claimed. While other employees could relocate on the other side of the Green Line if the plant moved, the West Bank Palestinian workers could not, and would suffer financially, he argued.
“We will not throw our employees under the bus to promote anyone’s political agenda,” he said, adding that he “just can’t see how it would help the cause of the Palestinians if we fired them.”
In other words, Birnbaum is concerned about real live Palestinians whose families need to eat. That’s a concern noticeably absent among the usual “pro-Palestinian” types, who couldn’t care less about ordinary Palestinians’ welfare unless it happens to serve their primary goal of attacking Israel: See, for instance, the shocking indifference by “pro-Palestinian” groups to the literal starvation of Palestinians in Syria (since Israel can’t be blamed for it), or the Dutch and German governments’ efforts to halt sewage treatment and landfill projects that would primarily benefit Palestinians because Jewish settlers would also benefit. But it’s a concern ardently shared by ordinary Palestinians themselves, as a 2010 poll showed: By an overwhelming majority of 60 percent to 38 percent, Palestinians opposed the idea that they themselves should refuse to work in the settlements. Real Palestinians care about feeding their families, and they don’t want to be barred from jobs that enable them to do so.
Yet thatÂ’s exactly what boycotting companies like SodaStream would primarily accomplish. Though SodaStream says it wonÂ’t leave, other Israeli companies have decided they donÂ’t need the hassle and relocated inside the Green Line, throwing their erstwhile Palestinian employees out of work. Countless others choose not to locate in the West Bank to begin with, as Birnbaum admits he would do today.
Currently, 20,000 Palestinians work in the settlements. Eliminating their jobs would cause the number of unemployed people in the West Bank to jump 14 percent–hardly a helpful proposition for an economy already suffering 19 percent unemployment.
This same disregard for actual Palestinians also characterizes other forms of anti-Israel boycotts. Take, for instance, the effort to impose an academic boycott on Israel. As one Palestinian pharmacy professor, who understandably feared to give his name, told the New York Times this month, “more than 50 Palestinian professors were engaged in joint research projects with Israeli universities, funded by international agencies,” and “without those grants, Palestinian academic research would collapse because ‘not a single dollar’ was available from other places.”
Boycott proponents claim that by reducing Israelis’ academic freedom, they seek to “enlarge” Palestinians’ academic freedom. Yet in fact, as this Palestinian professor admitted, Israeli academia is the lifeline keeping its Palestinian counterpart alive. So how would killing off academic research in Palestinian universities “enlarge” Palestinians’ academic freedom? It wouldn’t, of course–but the “pro-Palestinian” crowd doesn’t care about that.
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Evelyn Gordon | @EvelynCGordon 01.31.2014 - 9:20 AM
If you want to understand the difference between people who are actually pro-Palestinian and those who routinely but falsely claim that label, it’s worth reading the Forward’s interview with SodaStream CEO Daniel Birnbaum. The headline, of course, was Birnbaum’s admission that having a plant in a West Bank settlement is “a pain in the ass,” and he would “never” locate there today. But the most striking comment was his answer to the question of why, in that case, he doesn’t shut the West Bank plant and transfer its operations to SodaStream’s new facility in the Negev, which has ample capacity:
The reason for staying is loyalty to approximately 500 Palestinians who are among the plantÂ’s 1,300 employees, Birnbaum claimed. While other employees could relocate on the other side of the Green Line if the plant moved, the West Bank Palestinian workers could not, and would suffer financially, he argued.
“We will not throw our employees under the bus to promote anyone’s political agenda,” he said, adding that he “just can’t see how it would help the cause of the Palestinians if we fired them.”
In other words, Birnbaum is concerned about real live Palestinians whose families need to eat. That’s a concern noticeably absent among the usual “pro-Palestinian” types, who couldn’t care less about ordinary Palestinians’ welfare unless it happens to serve their primary goal of attacking Israel: See, for instance, the shocking indifference by “pro-Palestinian” groups to the literal starvation of Palestinians in Syria (since Israel can’t be blamed for it), or the Dutch and German governments’ efforts to halt sewage treatment and landfill projects that would primarily benefit Palestinians because Jewish settlers would also benefit. But it’s a concern ardently shared by ordinary Palestinians themselves, as a 2010 poll showed: By an overwhelming majority of 60 percent to 38 percent, Palestinians opposed the idea that they themselves should refuse to work in the settlements. Real Palestinians care about feeding their families, and they don’t want to be barred from jobs that enable them to do so.
Yet thatÂ’s exactly what boycotting companies like SodaStream would primarily accomplish. Though SodaStream says it wonÂ’t leave, other Israeli companies have decided they donÂ’t need the hassle and relocated inside the Green Line, throwing their erstwhile Palestinian employees out of work. Countless others choose not to locate in the West Bank to begin with, as Birnbaum admits he would do today.
Currently, 20,000 Palestinians work in the settlements. Eliminating their jobs would cause the number of unemployed people in the West Bank to jump 14 percent–hardly a helpful proposition for an economy already suffering 19 percent unemployment.
This same disregard for actual Palestinians also characterizes other forms of anti-Israel boycotts. Take, for instance, the effort to impose an academic boycott on Israel. As one Palestinian pharmacy professor, who understandably feared to give his name, told the New York Times this month, “more than 50 Palestinian professors were engaged in joint research projects with Israeli universities, funded by international agencies,” and “without those grants, Palestinian academic research would collapse because ‘not a single dollar’ was available from other places.”
Boycott proponents claim that by reducing Israelis’ academic freedom, they seek to “enlarge” Palestinians’ academic freedom. Yet in fact, as this Palestinian professor admitted, Israeli academia is the lifeline keeping its Palestinian counterpart alive. So how would killing off academic research in Palestinian universities “enlarge” Palestinians’ academic freedom? It wouldn’t, of course–but the “pro-Palestinian” crowd doesn’t care about that.
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No, we have not.
The International Court Of Justice is the Highest legal authority in our world and they have held there is an Occupation and the settlements are illegal.
And just because you have dentures and gnash them, whatever that means, must be a Zionist thing, certainly does not mean the rest of us do, stop projecting your gnashing dentures onto me.
The International Court Of Justice is the Highest legal authority in our world and they have held there is an Occupation and the settlements are illegal.
And just because you have dentures and gnash them, whatever that means, must be a Zionist thing, certainly does not mean the rest of us do, stop projecting your gnashing dentures onto me.
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Well Scary Sherri is here calling Scarlett ugly, and we all know Scarlett is very very beautiful. She should post up her own picture so we can judge and compare.
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So, now we all know Roudy is a woman who likes dress up.
lol
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Just imagine being with her day in and day out, HELL on earth.
So, now we all know Roudy is a woman who likes dress up.
lol
I would love to know how you came to that conclusion
High_Gravity
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Oh yeah, that woman looks so much better than Scarlett Johannsen
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No she's a Hamas suicide bomber who's proud of herself. Here's another one of your "beautiful" hero girlfriends. Did you buy yourself a suicide belt yet, Sherri? That way you both go at the same time.So, now we all know Roudy is a woman who likes dress up.
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High_Gravity
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So, now we all know Roudy is a woman who likes dress up.
lol
Thats just lame Sherri, not even funny.
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I literally get a hardon looking at her.
Oh yeah, that woman looks so much better than Scarlett Johannsen
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This is the problem Oxfam confronted when ScarJo decided to become a spokesperson for Soda Stream.
Scarlett Johansson Chooses SodaStream Over Oxfam After Dispute About West Bank Factory JAN. 30, 2014
“Oxfam believes that businesses such as SodaStream that operate in settlements further the ongoing poverty and denial of rights of the Palestinian communities that we work to support,” the group said, adding that it was “opposed to all trade from Israeli settlements, which are illegal under international law.”
The factory is on stolen Palestinian land.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/31/w...-torn-apart-by-israeli-company-deal.html?_r=0
Scarlett Johansson Chooses SodaStream Over Oxfam After Dispute About West Bank Factory JAN. 30, 2014
“Oxfam believes that businesses such as SodaStream that operate in settlements further the ongoing poverty and denial of rights of the Palestinian communities that we work to support,” the group said, adding that it was “opposed to all trade from Israeli settlements, which are illegal under international law.”
The factory is on stolen Palestinian land.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/31/w...-torn-apart-by-israeli-company-deal.html?_r=0
It always goes like this for her. Have you ever seen a thread where she didn't get humiliated?Exactly. As I posted in the video above they are earning three times the average salary. They are very happy to work there too. I bet Sherri didn't expect the thread to go like this.
You're right. Not once have I seen one. And yet she/he/it keep coming back for more. You would think they would want a debate but are just proven wrong time after time so there is nothing to debate.
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I literally get a hardon looking at her.Hamas suicide bombing women like these, turn Jihad Sherri on a lot:
Oh yeah, that woman looks so much better than Scarlett Johannsen
How pathetic , you dress up like that and take photos of yourself and get off on it, you certainly are a LOSER.
High_Gravity
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I literally get a hardon looking at her.Hamas suicide bombing women like these, turn Jihad Sherri on a lot:
Oh yeah, that woman looks so much better than Scarlett Johannsen
Me too, she needs to be Hustler and PlayBoy.
High_Gravity
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I literally get a hardon looking at her.Oh yeah, that woman looks so much better than Scarlett Johannsen
How pathetic , you dress up like that and take photos of yourself and get off on it, you certainly are a LOSER.
Only Loser I see here is you Scary Sherri.
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I wonder why the oxen at Oxfam don't want the "Palestinians" to earn any money and improve their lot in life?? 
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