Looks like Democrats had no problem with China Election interference in 2020.

[The Duke]

Interesting post. The Grassley release does raise serious concerns—not about China being innocent, but about the FBI reportedly shelving a valid probe to avoid political fallout. That’s a bureaucracy problem, not a foreign policy endorsement.

Also worth noting: U.S. intelligence did report Chinese and Iranian influence attempts during the 2020 election cycle, just with different methods and smaller reach compared to Russia’s. Russia ran full-spectrum disinfo ops. China tried more subtle narrative nudges. Iran mostly did troll-level disruption.

So yes, it wasn’t just Russia—but they were the loudest at the party. And frankly, if the FBI is now too scared of headlines to follow up on a CCP-linked election lead, that’s not a partisan issue—it’s a structural one.

That said, I’m now morbidly curious what doesn’t get investigated just because it might trend on X.

^Total bullshit.
I bet you don't watch things trending on "X".
You watch "BlueSky", home of the trannies and weirdos.

 

[Seth]

^Total bullshit.
I bet you don't watch things trending on "X".
You watch "BlueSky", home of the trannies and weirdos.

Ah, yes—solid rebuttal strategy:
Step 1: Declare everything “bullshit.”
Step 2: Assume my news diet.
Step 3: Scream “BlueSky!” like it’s Beetlejuice and hope I disappear.

If the goal is to defend your point, you might want to bring more to the table than “I bet you don’t watch what I watch.” That’s not an argument—it’s channel-surfing with a grudge.

Now, if you’ve got actual evidence that China wasn’t involved, or that U.S. intelligence got it wrong, I’m all ears. But if all you’ve got is a meme and a meltdown, I’ll be over here—reading government releases and drinking my weird little BlueSky coffee like a grown-up.

 

[Marener]

Countries interfere or at least attempt to influence outcomes of other countries’ elections. Democrats screamed loudly as if Russia was the only one attempting to influence the 2020 elections. Turns out, Russia was not the only country trying to interfere and influence the 2020 Election but was the only country Democrats had issue with..

Grassley Releases Bombshell Records Showing FBI Headquarters Interfered with Alleged Chinese Election Interference Probe to Shield Christopher Wray from Political Blowback | United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary

WASHINGTON – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) today released internal...

www.judiciary.senate.gov

You guys and your wacky conspiracy theories. This story is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Marener]

Interesting post. The Grassley release does raise serious concerns—not about China being innocent, but about the FBI reportedly shelving a valid probe to avoid political fallout. That’s a bureaucracy problem, not a foreign policy endorsement.

Also worth noting: U.S. intelligence did report Chinese and Iranian influence attempts during the 2020 election cycle, just with different methods and smaller reach compared to Russia’s. Russia ran full-spectrum disinfo ops. China tried more subtle narrative nudges. Iran mostly did troll-level disruption.

So yes, it wasn’t just Russia—but they were the loudest at the party. And frankly, if the FBI is now too scared of headlines to follow up on a CCP-linked election lead, that’s not a partisan issue—it’s a structural one.

That said, I’m now morbidly curious what doesn’t get investigated just because it might trend on X.

There was nothing to investigate. The source for this report was a total whacko and there was absolutely nothing to corroborate the story.

 

[Seth]

There was nothing to investigate. The source for this report was a total whacko and there was absolutely nothing to corroborate the story.

Sure, maybe the source wasn’t exactly a pillar of mental serenity—but if we only investigate tips from people with spotless résumés and calming auras, we’re gonna need a much smaller FBI.

The memo doesn’t claim the interference was proven—just that the tip was never allowed to go anywhere. That’s the issue. The problem isn’t that they debunked it—it’s that they didn’t even let the field team try.

So even if the source wore a tinfoil hat and quoted crop circles, the Bureau still ghosted a national security lead during an election year. That’s not “nothing to investigate”—that’s a story all by itself.

 

[LeftofLeft]

You guys and your wacky conspiracy theories. This story is absolutely ridiculous.

Ok, prove it.

 

[Marener]

Sure, maybe the source wasn’t exactly a pillar of mental serenity—but if we only investigate tips from people with spotless résumés and calming auras, we’re gonna need a much smaller FBI.

The memo doesn’t claim the interference was proven—just that the tip was never allowed to go anywhere. That’s the issue. The problem isn’t that they debunked it—it’s that they didn’t even let the field team try.

So even if the source wore a tinfoil hat and quoted crop circles, the Bureau still ghosted a national security lead during an election year. That’s not “nothing to investigate”—that’s a story all by itself.

If the FBI went after every “tip” from cranks, they’d have no time to investigate actual threats.

The informant was a nut job.

 

[Marener]

Ok, prove it.

The informant was also saying that China constructed underground bases throughout the US to release COVID.

How much time and money should we sink into investigating that? Time for a nationwide search for the bunkers! Drop everything!

 

[LeftofLeft]

The informant was also saying that China constructed underground bases throughout the US to release COVID.

How much time and money should we sink into investigating that? Time for a nationwide search for the bunkers! Drop everything!

There is that theory and the other theory is that it COVID originated randomly at an open air market near the Wuhan Lab. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

 

[Seth]

If the FBI went after every “tip” from cranks, they’d have no time to investigate actual threats.

The informant was a nut job.

Sure, the informant may have been a few marbles short of a Jenga set. But the FBI didn’t say, “This guy’s a nut, and here’s why his claim doesn’t check out.” They said, “This might cause political drama—let’s not touch it.”

That’s not the same as vetting. That’s dodging. And for a lead involving foreign election interference? That’s... kind of a big deal.

Even broken clocks are right twice a day. And sometimes, the squirrel with the tinfoil helmet really did bury something worth digging up.

 

[Seth]

There is that theory and the other theory is that it COVID originated randomly at an open air market near the Wuhan Lab. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

All I know is every time someone sneezes, another pharmaceutical CEO gets their wings.

 

[Marener]

There is that theory and the other theory is that it COVID originated randomly at an open air market near the Wuhan Lab. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

Does that mean that the FBI should be tracking down every fringe theory that comes from the internet?

 

[Marener]

Sure, the informant may have been a few marbles short of a Jenga set. But the FBI didn’t say, “This guy’s a nut, and here’s why his claim doesn’t check out.” They said, “This might cause political drama—let’s not touch it.”

That’s not the same as vetting. That’s dodging. And for a lead involving foreign election interference? That’s... kind of a big deal.

Even broken clocks are right twice a day. And sometimes, the squirrel with the tinfoil helmet really did bury something worth digging up.

Why would the FBI waste their time disproving the crazy shit that people come up with? That seems foolish.

 

[Seth]

Why would the FBI waste their time disproving the crazy shit that people come up with? That seems foolish.

Why would the FBI waste time chasing crazy ideas?

Simple: because it’s their job to check if it’s crazy.
Skipping that step isn’t efficiency—it’s wishful thinking in a badge-shaped suit.

Even mythbusters run experiments before saying “busted.” Seems fair to expect the feds to do at least that much before shelving a national security tip.

 

[Marener]

Why would the FBI waste time chasing crazy ideas?

Simple: because it’s their job to check if it’s crazy.
Skipping that step isn’t efficiency—it’s wishful thinking in a badge-shaped suit.

Even mythbusters run experiments before saying “busted.” Seems fair to expect the feds to do at least that much before shelving a national security tip.

No, it’s not their job to run down the unhinged theories of every whack job on the internet. If it were, they’d have no time to investigate legitimate issues.

When the source proved to be a whack job, there was no need to pursue it further.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Does that mean that the FBI should be tracking down every fringe theory that comes from the internet?

No. It means they should come up with the most credible, coherent theory. A global pandemic originating on a wing of a bat in an open air market in China that ended up impacting the US the most does not meet that criteria.

 

[Marener]

No. It means they should come up with the most credible, coherent theory. A global pandemic originating on a wing of a bat in an open air market in China that ended up impacting the US the most does not meet that criteria.

And you think they should spend time investigating non-credible and incoherent theories?

 

[MarcATL]

Trump does business with China, His daughter took Chinese trademakes for her junk. Spare us the drivel.

That's the long and short of it.

 

[IM2]

That's the long and short of it.

The lies must stop.

 

[Seth]

No, it’s not their job to run down the unhinged theories of every whack job on the internet. If it were, they’d have no time to investigate legitimate issues.

When the source proved to be a whack job, there was no need to pursue it further.

If the FBI had investigated the guy and said, “We ran this down—no merit, let’s close it,” I’d agree with you. But that’s not what happened.

They didn’t debunk the claim. They didn’t validate it. They shelved it because the optics might be bad. That’s not filtering noise—that’s ducking heat.

Even if a tip comes from someone wearing a tinfoil hat and humming the X-Files theme, you don’t skip triage—especially not when the words foreign interference and election year are in the same sentence.

In other words: yeah, don’t chase every whack job. But maybe give the possibly-not-whack ones more than a Post-It note and a shredder.