Looking The Other Way: Why Has Mueller Ignored Obama Crimes?

[The Original Tree]

Mueller's there to hide the crimes of the previous administration. That's his forte, he's the cleaner.

Comey was ordered to clean up Clinton and Obama's mess until he got fired for being a crook, a liar, and a subversive piece of shit. Rod Rosenstein tried to get Mueller appointed as head of The FBI to finish the job and Trump threw him and Mueller out of The White House. Rosenstein then appoints Mueller as DeFacto head of The FBI to investigate Trump for not hiring Mueller as the head of THE FBI.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Obama kicks out the Russian diplomats.

Russia calls Flynn.

Obama was spying on Flynn.

Flynn conspired with Russia!

This is all a bullshit set up. We all know it.

Reality:
Russian officials are all routinely under ongoing FISA surveillance. (Something Flynn should have understood)

Flynn was captured talking with Russian officials on surveilled lines.

Flynn lied to FBI investigators about conversations with said Russian officials.

Flynn is charged and pleaded guilty as he was caught dead to rights.

 

[Lesh]

Tree seems to invent meetings and occurrences that come straight from his fantasy world

 

[The Original Tree]

Victoria Toensing: Why has Mueller ignored Obama administration crimes?

"The sorry saga began with a January 12, 2017 column about the Flynn/Kislyak conversations by The Washington Post’s David Ignatius, who described his source as a “senior U.S. government official,” i.e., an Obama administration functionary. Whoever told Ignatius the fact of and substance of the eavesdropped conversations committed a felony by leaking classified information.

The second crime is publicly revealing a U.S. citizen’s identity as being a party to those conversations. When there is authorized intelligence collection of foreign officials, the identity of the U.S. person who is incidentally picked up during that collection is to be minimized (not disclosed), even within the U.S. government. Instead of the party’s name, the document substitutes “[U.S. Person].” There is a process for “unmasking”—obtaining the name of the undisclosed person--when the government official determines knowing the name is important to national security. A written request must be made to the collecting agency that is responsible for the document. Only a handful of officials are given that authority, e.g. NSA has only 20. Perhaps there was a valid need for an Obama official to know Flynn’s identity. That issue is irrelevant. Providing it to Ignatius was a crime."



"Before Flynn flunked remembering every word of a conversation he was asked to recall weeks later, an Obama administration official had egregiously broken the national security and privacy laws. But only Flynn has been charged with a crime.



"Not only was the basis for questioning Flynn a ruse, but more significantly the FBI did not have to ask him about the conversations to determine if there was a crime because it had the transcripts and recordings of every single word. If Flynn had committed any illegal act in the conversations, the Justice Department could have indicted him that day. But it did not. Nor did Mueller ever mention such an illegality in his December 2017 charges against Flynn for false statements."


"Mueller should have pursued these crimes as he is authorized to investigate any crime he finds in the course of the “collusion” investigation. He has had no problem charging Paul Manafort for decades-old tax crimes and looking into former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s taxi medallions. Yet the crimes against Flynn have been ignored. Why?"


WE ALL KNOW WHY!

Mueller's purpose is to give a Democrat controlled House the document they needed to bring impeachment charges against Trump. That will be his statement.

So, this is what we have:

• This investigation began because Obama wanted to spy on the Trump campaign
• They used a fake document paid for by Hillary and the DNC to start an FBI investigation
• They recommended that Trump fire the FBI director for incompetence
• They created a Special Council investigation because Trump fired his FBI director
• The Special Council's report will be the foundation for impeachment
• They feel that Trump will lose the 2020 election because he had been impeached and thus tainted

So this whole conspiracy is based off of the fact that Obama spied on a political opponent. With the help of the FBI he conducted political espionage against the current president in an attempt to win the 2020 election. The whole purpose of it is purely political. There is no legal basis to any of it. Hillary rigged the 2016 nomination and now Democrats are in the process of rigging the 2020 election.

What Obama and Clinton did were Felonies and they both should be brought up on charges. The clear indicator that The Mueller investigation is a witch hunt and that he is a fraud is how he populated his staff and the fact that he refuses to look in to how an Obama Paid for, Clinton funded piece or Putin Approved Propaganda found its way in to a FISA court and in to false affdavits that were used to spy on a Presidential Candidate during his campaign by an Incumbent President.

And people though Dick Nixon taping conversations in The White House was bad?

 

[rightwinger]

The Great Obama had a scandal free administration

Trump didn’t last a week

 

[ColonelAngus]

Reality.

Obama threw out the Russian diplomats knowing the Russians would contact Flynn, who was part of the Trump transition team.

It was a set up.

Donald Trump and Putin did not rig the 2016 and steal it from HIllary.

It did not happen.

 

[Polishprince]

Mueller was charged to bring down the Trump Administration by any means necessary and any cost. His instructions from the Deep State have nothing to do with the Big O.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I really have to laugh at these threads. They are truly funny. Let us see, first you condemn Mueller for going beyond his mandate, then you say he is not going far enough. The you want Mueller to go after Obama, but to the best of my knowledge, Obama was never at any Trump Tower meetings, never worked for the criminal enterprise known as the Trump Organization and not a single Obama staff member has pleaded guilty to a crime.

Continue with your comical deflections. It makes for good entertainment.

It should also be fairly clear, even to these dopes, that the Obama admin certainly didn't conspire with Russia to elect Trump.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The Great Obama had a scandal free administration

Trump didn’t last a week

No, O didnt. There was plenty of scandal with benghazi, solyndra, billions greasing his buds pockets for stimulus, illegal campaign funds violations.etc.

 

[easyt65]

You can't fix 'stupid'.

As you prove daily.

By pointing out the stupidity of people like YOU!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I really have to laugh at these threads. They are truly funny. Let us see, first you condemn Mueller for going beyond his mandate, then you say he is not going far enough. The you want Mueller to go after Obama, but to the best of my knowledge, Obama was never at any Trump Tower meetings, never worked for the criminal enterprise known as the Trump Organization and not a single Obama staff member has pleaded guilty to a crime.

Continue with your comical deflections. It makes for good entertainment.

Yet Obama has committed numerous crimes.....but for some strange reason no prosecutor will attempt to indict him.

Yet Obama has committed numerous crimes.....but for some strange reason no prosecutor will attempt to indict him.

Serious question:

Do you actually believe that there is a huge and ongoing conspiracy to protect all Democratic politicians rather than the more likely conclusion, that you are simply incorrect in your analysis?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

If you have evidence that Obama committed crimes, you should contact the FBI.

Mueller is not Director of the FBI. He is a Special Counsel, appointed to investigate a very specific scope--namely Russian interference in the 2016 to include any possible collaboration by US persons, and related secondary criminal activity.

Mueller was appointed only after Trump fired Comey as well.

 

[Crepitus]

Victoria Toensing: Why has Mueller ignored Obama administration crimes?

"The sorry saga began with a January 12, 2017 column about the Flynn/Kislyak conversations by The Washington Post’s David Ignatius, who described his source as a “senior U.S. government official,” i.e., an Obama administration functionary. Whoever told Ignatius the fact of and substance of the eavesdropped conversations committed a felony by leaking classified information.

The second crime is publicly revealing a U.S. citizen’s identity as being a party to those conversations. When there is authorized intelligence collection of foreign officials, the identity of the U.S. person who is incidentally picked up during that collection is to be minimized (not disclosed), even within the U.S. government. Instead of the party’s name, the document substitutes “[U.S. Person].” There is a process for “unmasking”—obtaining the name of the undisclosed person--when the government official determines knowing the name is important to national security. A written request must be made to the collecting agency that is responsible for the document. Only a handful of officials are given that authority, e.g. NSA has only 20. Perhaps there was a valid need for an Obama official to know Flynn’s identity. That issue is irrelevant. Providing it to Ignatius was a crime."



"Before Flynn flunked remembering every word of a conversation he was asked to recall weeks later, an Obama administration official had egregiously broken the national security and privacy laws. But only Flynn has been charged with a crime.



"Not only was the basis for questioning Flynn a ruse, but more significantly the FBI did not have to ask him about the conversations to determine if there was a crime because it had the transcripts and recordings of every single word. If Flynn had committed any illegal act in the conversations, the Justice Department could have indicted him that day. But it did not. Nor did Mueller ever mention such an illegality in his December 2017 charges against Flynn for false statements."


"Mueller should have pursued these crimes as he is authorized to investigate any crime he finds in the course of the “collusion” investigation. He has had no problem charging Paul Manafort for decades-old tax crimes and looking into former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s taxi medallions. Yet the crimes against Flynn have been ignored. Why?"


WE ALL KNOW WHY!

Because unlike tRump's crimes they only exist in the collective conservative imagination.

 

[Camp]

Victoria Toensing: Why has Mueller ignored Obama administration crimes?

"The sorry saga began with a January 12, 2017 column about the Flynn/Kislyak conversations by The Washington Post’s David Ignatius, who described his source as a “senior U.S. government official,” i.e., an Obama administration functionary. Whoever told Ignatius the fact of and substance of the eavesdropped conversations committed a felony by leaking classified information.

The second crime is publicly revealing a U.S. citizen’s identity as being a party to those conversations. When there is authorized intelligence collection of foreign officials, the identity of the U.S. person who is incidentally picked up during that collection is to be minimized (not disclosed), even within the U.S. government. Instead of the party’s name, the document substitutes “[U.S. Person].” There is a process for “unmasking”—obtaining the name of the undisclosed person--when the government official determines knowing the name is important to national security. A written request must be made to the collecting agency that is responsible for the document. Only a handful of officials are given that authority, e.g. NSA has only 20. Perhaps there was a valid need for an Obama official to know Flynn’s identity. That issue is irrelevant. Providing it to Ignatius was a crime."



"Before Flynn flunked remembering every word of a conversation he was asked to recall weeks later, an Obama administration official had egregiously broken the national security and privacy laws. But only Flynn has been charged with a crime.



"Not only was the basis for questioning Flynn a ruse, but more significantly the FBI did not have to ask him about the conversations to determine if there was a crime because it had the transcripts and recordings of every single word. If Flynn had committed any illegal act in the conversations, the Justice Department could have indicted him that day. But it did not. Nor did Mueller ever mention such an illegality in his December 2017 charges against Flynn for false statements."


"Mueller should have pursued these crimes as he is authorized to investigate any crime he finds in the course of the “collusion” investigation. He has had no problem charging Paul Manafort for decades-old tax crimes and looking into former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s taxi medallions. Yet the crimes against Flynn have been ignored. Why?"


WE ALL KNOW WHY!

Mueller's purpose is to give a Democrat controlled House the document they needed to bring impeachment charges against Trump. That will be his statement.

So, this is what we have:

• This investigation began because Obama wanted to spy on the Trump campaign
• They used a fake document paid for by Hillary and the DNC to start an FBI investigation
• They recommended that Trump fire the FBI director for incompetence
• They created a Special Council investigation because Trump fired his FBI director
• The Special Council's report will be the foundation for impeachment
• They feel that Trump will lose the 2020 election because he had been impeached and thus tainted

So this whole conspiracy is based off of the fact that Obama spied on a political opponent. With the help of the FBI he conducted political espionage against the current president in an attempt to win the 2020 election. The whole purpose of it is purely political. There is no legal basis to any of it. Hillary rigged the 2016 nomination and now Democrats are in the process of rigging the 2020 election.

And people though Dick Nixon taping conversations in The White House was bad?

Did you mean thought?
Nixon did not get in trouble for taping, he got in trouble for trying to hide the tapes and what was on them. No one minded him recording conversations for historical purposes or as an administrative tool.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Reality.

Obama threw out the Russian diplomats knowing the Russians would contact Flynn, who was part of the Trump transition team.

It was a set up.

Donald Trump and Putin did not rig the 2016 and steal it from HIllary.

It did not happen.

It was a set up

Well, except for the parts where Flynn actually chose to take the calls and then later lie about doing so, of course.

That was the only crime.

 

[easyt65]

Reality.
Obama threw out the Russian diplomats knowing the Russians would contact Flynn, who was part of the Trump transition team. It was a set up. Donald Trump and Putin did not rig the 2016 and steal it from Hillary. It did not happen.

Hillary used campaign finance money to pay foreign spies and Russians for a dossier that was illegally used against Trump. HILLARY WALKED AWAY FROM THEIR INTERACTION WITH A RUSSIAN-AUTHORED DOCUMENT.

Set Up? Barak Obama HIMSELF overrode his own Department of Immigration's BAN on a Russian Lawyer prohibiting her from entering the United States, facilitating - making it possible for this Russian Lawyer to set up a meeting with Trump Jr. BEFORE the meeting ever took place, besides having to override the DOI's Ban, the Obama administration KNEW where the meeting would take place, already had it 'bugged', and Obama's own personal ex-FBI Russian Interpreter was in the room when the meeting happened.
-- If you can not smell the 'set-up it is because your head is firmly up Hillary's / Obama's ass, and you are used to the smell of (bull)shit.

The meeting lasted 7 minutes. Records show that when Jr. found out what was going on he texted his secretary asking her to call him so he could pretend to be needed elsewhere, giving him a reason to leave...which was done and which he did. Unlike with Hillary, Jr. left without being paid $145 million, without paying the Russians for a dossier, and without any information having changed hands at all ...

And stupid, ignorant, butt-hurt, treasonous liberal sheep are trying to say what went down with Jr constitutes illegal collusion (which there is no such thing) - a criminal act - but what Hillary did is perfectly fine?




You are correct - Trump did not 'collude' with anyone. He accomplished 2 things on his own Hillary could not do - win his Party's Nomination and win the Presidency.

The Entire 'Collusion' BS, aside from trying to take down Trump and ensure Hillary stayed out of prison and won, was a diversion from the fact that the DNC's hacked and released e-mails exposed the Democrats' racist, sexist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic communications AND a diversion from the fact that Hillary and the DNC were the only ones to actually take any action that effected the outcome of the 2016 election by rigging primaries, cheating in debates, stealing Bernie's earned nomination, keeping Hillary out of prison, and hiding the fact that SHE illegally paid foreign spies and Russians for a Russian-authored document illegally used against Candidate / President Trump.

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump is being overwhelmingly exposed as a criminal liar and probably impeachable offenses and his supporters here on USMB are still blabbering bu...bu...bu...Obama.....Hillary.

We know from experience that you libtards don't need probable-cause to begin investigations. You don't need or support due process, because it doesn't fit your beliefs. You regularly convict people with tainted testimony from people with highly suspicious motives.

Supposedly Trump is guilty of criminal behavior because Obama and Hillary really are guilty as **** of the same. But there's one problem. You don't have a crime. Mueller will supply you with one, even though it would never stand up in court in a million years. But, who cares, right?

 

[candycorn]

You can't fix 'stupid'.

As you prove daily.

By pointing out the stupidity of people like YOU!

No by showing your stupidity and, despite being corrected hourly, showing it again the next day. Case in point, Republicans grilled Hillary Clinton for what, 11 hours in person and for 6 years or so about Benghazi. Found nothing.

Did you learn anything? No.

Since December 14 of 2016, you’ve mentioned it enough to fill up 17 search pages and literally started 40 threads about it.

Yep, you can’t fix stupid. You’re clearly too dumb to learn and thus, you remain broken.

 

[rightwinger]

The Great Obama had a scandal free administration

Trump didn’t last a week

No, O didnt. There was plenty of scandal with benghazi, solyndra, billions greasing his buds pockets for stimulus, illegal campaign funds violations.etc.

None are illegal acts.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans just don’t understand that wild conspiracy theories do no substitute for facts