Long-term warming trend continued in 2017: NASA, NOAA

[SSDD]

The short term trend is warming and then a very long pause...the long term trend is cooling.

100% wrong. No pause, as we know, and mankind's actions are clearly superseding the gentle, long term trend.

Lets get some facts into this fantasy your spewing...

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The over all long term trend is cooling. What we've seen to date is within normal and natural variation.. When we place the alarmist clap trap into context of the longer trend, there is no emergency of any kind.


Your a ******* idiot and a dupe

Proxies are NOT reliable trend indicators.

Ice cores are considered to be gold standard proxies by climate science and the ice cores from both poles show a long term cooling trend.

And how gold are the ice cores from the equator? So Ice cores have a very limited record on GLOBAL temperature.

Got a rational, scientifically valid reason why the same long term signatures might show up on ice cores from the arctic and antarctic but not be present in the latitudes between?

 

[edthecynic]

100% wrong. No pause, as we know, and mankind's actions are clearly superseding the gentle, long term trend.

Lets get some facts into this fantasy your spewing...

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The over all long term trend is cooling. What we've seen to date is within normal and natural variation.. When we place the alarmist clap trap into context of the longer trend, there is no emergency of any kind.


Your a ******* idiot and a dupe

Proxies are NOT reliable trend indicators.

Ice cores are considered to be gold standard proxies by climate science and the ice cores from both poles show a long term cooling trend.

And how gold are the ice cores from the equator? So Ice cores have a very limited record on GLOBAL temperature.

Got a rational, scientifically valid reason why the same long term signatures might show up on ice cores from the arctic and antarctic but not be present in the latitudes between?

Do you have a rational valid reason why ice cores found ONLY at the poles are an accurate temperature proxy for the ENTIRE globe?????

 

[edthecynic]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s

The ISA models a hypothetical standard day to allow a reproducible engineering reference for calculation and testing of engine and vehicle performance at various altitudes. It does not provide a rigorous meteorological model of actual atmospheric conditions.

The INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE is the STANDARD AGAINST WHICH back there SOMEWHERE

EVERY single AERONAUTICAL and AEROSPACE INSTRUMENT or TOOL is CALIBRATED REGULATED/WARRANTIED.

It's parameters being so ACCURATELY COMPARABLE to THE PLANET'S ATMOSPHERE that we base our FLYING DATA ON IT.

Don't CLAIM the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE'S GLOBAL PHYSICAL REGULATORY & CALIBRATION STANDARD might be WRONG.

DON'T CLAIM it's values aren't the * * *GOLD STANDARD* * * in ATMOSPHERIC VALUES COMPUTATION.

DON'T you even START.

repeating your BULLSHIT doesn't make it any less BULLSHIT!

 

[Billy_Bob]

The short term trend is warming and then a very long pause...the long term trend is cooling.

100% wrong. No pause, as we know, and mankind's actions are clearly superseding the gentle, long term trend.

Lets get some facts into this fantasy your spewing...

View attachment 203539 View attachment 203540
The over all long term trend is cooling. What we've seen to date is within normal and natural variation.. When we place the alarmist clap trap into context of the longer trend, there is no emergency of any kind.


Your a ******* idiot and a dupe

Your graphs Disagree dramatically.
One has temps UP 4 degrees in the last 11K years, the other down.
LOFL.

Too funny....

You cant even discern an anomaly graphing from a temperature graphing.... Priceless...

 

[Allen Eltor]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s

The ISA models a hypothetical standard day to allow a reproducible engineering reference for calculation and testing of engine and vehicle performance at various altitudes. It does not provide a rigorous meteorological model of actual atmospheric conditions.

NOW we see what it's Iike for you,

REPEATING that THE INTERNATIONAL REGULATORY and PHYSICAL CALIBRATION STANDARD for THE WHOLE WORLD ISN'T WHAT YOU WISH IT WAS

isn't having something to say. It's another step along the ROAD of DENIAL of the PRINCIPLES GOVERNING the UNIVERSE

so you can SQUEAL that "a COLD BATH HAS to BE a HEATER, YEW DUN LOOK'T IT UP OWN the INTURTEWBS! "

"yAW!"

What's the name of the law governing atmospheric temperature sh** for brains?

TELL THESE PEOPLE or you're the ILLITERATE HICK I'M TELLING THEM ALL YOU ARE..

NAME it and discuss it at length here

OR YOU'RE THE IGNORANT HICK I TOLD EVERYONE was so STUPID

you don't even know what LAW of PHYSICS you're talking about.

We'll wait, hick.

 

[Allen Eltor]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s

The ISA models a hypothetical standard day to allow a reproducible engineering reference for calculation and testing of engine and vehicle performance at various altitudes. It does not provide a rigorous meteorological model of actual atmospheric conditions.

The INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE is the STANDARD AGAINST WHICH back there SOMEWHERE

EVERY single AERONAUTICAL and AEROSPACE INSTRUMENT or TOOL is CALIBRATED REGULATED/WARRANTIED.

It's parameters being so ACCURATELY COMPARABLE to THE PLANET'S ATMOSPHERE that we base our FLYING DATA ON IT.

Don't CLAIM the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE'S GLOBAL PHYSICAL REGULATORY & CALIBRATION STANDARD might be WRONG.

DON'T CLAIM it's values aren't the * * *GOLD STANDARD* * * in ATMOSPHERIC VALUES COMPUTATION.

DON'T you even START.

repeating your BULLSHIT doesn't make it any less BULLSHIT!

Whenever your DUMB B*&^ @#$ CAN NAME the LAW of PHYSICS you claim IS the one we CALIBRATE ALL OUR FLIGHT/HEAT INSTRUMENTS AGAINST,

you won't be just another paper hat taco peddling illiterate, who thinks a cold nitrogen bath is a MAGIC HEEDUR.

who's also so stupid YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW what STANDARD GOVERNS EVERY ATMOSPHERIC INSTRUMENT

on the PLANET.

LLooLLooLLooLLooLLooLL

"TAIN'T NEETHUR, THAY AIN'T GOT NAIR LAWS LAIK THAT!! IT AIN'T REEL, a COLD NITROGEN BATH'S a HEEDURE yew JIST AIN'T WERKED AT TACO BELL LAWNG UNUFF two UNDERSTAND abowt the

MAGICALNESS
uv the
GAISSINESS!!

IT's a POWERUFuL GAiSSiNESS, YAW!! I don't no nunna the NAMES uh NUNNA THIM LAWS er NUTHIN, BUT

I KNOW a COLD NITROGEN BATH'S A HEEDUR!!!"'

Does that about sum it up Taco Boy?

 

[flacaltenn]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s
and furthermore,
therm-0-billy,

The AMERICANS, driven by demand globally for accurate atmospheric information derived from REAL FLIGHTS going into orbit as only the Americans had done so much,
PUBLISHED in 1976 THE AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL ATMOSPHERE

WHICH VERIFIES EVERY LAST VALUE of the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE

and SUPPLIES FURTHER SCIENTIFIC READINGS and calculations going up SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND FEET FURTHER.

Those calculated values first discovered by the FRENCH in 1864
HAVE NEVER been CHANGED. And THOSE VERY SAME VALUES

are the IDENTICAL VALUES used to CALIBRATE every INSTRUMENT on this PLANET, warranty and guarantee ever STOVE, every OVEN, every ENGINE, every MOTOR, every AERONAUTICAL PART, every AEROSPACE PART,
every AUTOMOBILE PART, every FAN, every LIGHT -

that must be REGULATED or WARRANTIED on THIS PLANET
is TESTED with INSTRUMENTS CALIBRATED against that

INTERNATIONAL or
AMERICAN STANDARD ATMOSPHERE
and TESTED WITHIN PROPER PARAMETERS TRACEABLE to their nominal temps, pressures, etc
@ Mean Sea Level or any particular altitude.

Every ALTITUDE device,
Every NAVIGATION COMPUTER,
CALCULATES it's ATMOSPHERIC VALUES
in EVERY JETLINER ABOVE this PLANET AS we SPEAK
USING INSTRUMENTATION CALIBRATED against these UNCHANGING PARAMETERS.

If you don't LIKE that, TOUGH SH**.
THAT'S how it is.

When our PLANES start FALLING SHORT and RUNNING OUT of FUEL
and their ALTIMETERS don't WORK any more

the International Standard and American Standard Atmosphere CALIBRATION STANDARDS

will be wrong, and YOU - who thought a COLD NITROGEN BATH ATMOSPHERE is a magical HEATER

will be right.

:^)
Funny and Undocumented Diatribe.
I present/Link NASA/NOAA, you pull stuff from thin air.
The "planes falling from the air" (among many others), and the CAPS fest, devastates your credibility.
`

YOU NEED to SHOW US ALL where the ENERGY CAME FROM to WARM the ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE

back up from the 22% COOLING installed by the GREEN HOUSE GASES

when they STOPPED that light GETTING to the SURFACE from TOP of ATMOSPHERE,

after the GHGs REFRACTED that 22% to SPACE

After the cooling green house gases, FIRST cooling the planet 22%

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING that SAME 22% back so it was "like thay wusn't evun thair, yaW!"

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING FURTHER ENERGY to the point the ENTIRE COLD NITROGEN OXYGEN ATMOPSHERE * * *AND PLANET SURFACE* * *

were warmed an ADDITIONAL 33 degrees.

SHOW us all that or you're the bumbling public schooler who believed it when government employees told you a COLD NITROGEN/OXYGEN BATH is a HEEDUR.

Basic atmospheric physics dude.THere's an accounting for the solar radiation budget and the "back radiation" from the atmosphere is PART of that accounting. It's the LWIR that reduces the planet heat loss from space from LWIR emissions from the atmos that end up hitting the surface and REDUCING the net transfer skyward.

You MIGHT be atmospheric "chemist" but maybe you've never done the Radiative physics example that's in EVERY atmospheric physics book I've looked at. Sample below. It's the simple SUBTRACTION of opposing fluxes of IR interchange with the sky. Without ACKNOWLEDGING THIS -- you're denying the basics of GHouse theory. Are you denying GHouse theory?

I'll go dig up the cite if ya want it later.

 

[Allen Eltor]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s

The ISA models a hypothetical standard day to allow a reproducible engineering reference for calculation and testing of

engine and vehicle performance at various altitudes. It does not provide a rigorous meteorological model of actual atmospheric conditions.

The INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE is the STANDARD AGAINST WHICH back there SOMEWHERE

EVERY single AERONAUTICAL and AEROSPACE INSTRUMENT or TOOL is CALIBRATED REGULATED/WARRANTIED.

It's parameters being so ACCURATELY COMPARABLE to THE PLANET'S ATMOSPHERE that we base our FLYING DATA ON IT.

Don't CLAIM the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE'S GLOBAL PHYSICAL REGULATORY & CALIBRATION STANDARD might be WRONG.

DON'T CLAIM it's values aren't the * * *GOLD STANDARD* * * in ATMOSPHERIC VALUES COMPUTATION.

DON'T you even START.

repeating your BULLSHIT doesn't make it any less BULLSHIT!

What's it like to LIVE like that? "I doant no nuthin bowt nunna thim LAWS, but I NO A COLD NITCHURGIN BATH'S a HEEDUR!!

WHAT else WOOD it BEA? YAW?

WHAT else, WOOD it BEA?

When you can name the law of thermodynamics governing atmospheric temperature you won't be just another ignorant simp declaring NOBODY'S gonna tell you "A COLD NITROGEN BATH isn't a HEATER."

HA ha HAH HAH HA HA Ha Ha!!

YOU TURNING OUT LIKE THAT is the reason SOME PEOPLES' PARENTS take them out of those PUBLIC SCHOOL INTELLECTUAL GHETTOS and put them in a school so when they get out, they won't be so dumb they think a COLD NITROGEN BATH's a HEATER.

 

[Allen Eltor]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s
and furthermore,
therm-0-billy,

The AMERICANS, driven by demand globally for accurate atmospheric information derived from REAL FLIGHTS going into orbit as only the Americans had done so much,
PUBLISHED in 1976 THE AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL ATMOSPHERE

WHICH VERIFIES EVERY LAST VALUE of the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE

and SUPPLIES FURTHER SCIENTIFIC READINGS and calculations going up SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND FEET FURTHER.

Those calculated values first discovered by the FRENCH in 1864
HAVE NEVER been CHANGED. And THOSE VERY SAME VALUES

are the IDENTICAL VALUES used to CALIBRATE every INSTRUMENT on this PLANET, warranty and guarantee ever STOVE, every OVEN, every ENGINE, every MOTOR, every AERONAUTICAL PART, every AEROSPACE PART,
every AUTOMOBILE PART, every FAN, every LIGHT -

that must be REGULATED or WARRANTIED on THIS PLANET
is TESTED with INSTRUMENTS CALIBRATED against that

INTERNATIONAL or
AMERICAN STANDARD ATMOSPHERE
and TESTED WITHIN PROPER PARAMETERS TRACEABLE to their nominal temps, pressures, etc
@ Mean Sea Level or any particular altitude.

Every ALTITUDE device,
Every NAVIGATION COMPUTER,
CALCULATES it's ATMOSPHERIC VALUES
in EVERY JETLINER ABOVE this PLANET AS we SPEAK
USING INSTRUMENTATION CALIBRATED against these UNCHANGING PARAMETERS.

If you don't LIKE that, TOUGH SH**.
THAT'S how it is.

When our PLANES start FALLING SHORT and RUNNING OUT of FUEL
and their ALTIMETERS don't WORK any more

the International Standard and American Standard Atmosphere CALIBRATION STANDARDS

will be wrong, and YOU - who thought a COLD NITROGEN BATH ATMOSPHERE is a magical HEATER

will be right.

:^)
Funny and Undocumented Diatribe.
I present/Link NASA/NOAA, you pull stuff from thin air.
The "planes falling from the air" (among many others), and the CAPS fest, devastates your credibility.
`

YOU NEED to SHOW US ALL where the ENERGY CAME FROM to WARM the ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE

back up from the 22% COOLING installed by the GREEN HOUSE GASES

when they STOPPED that light GETTING to the SURFACE from TOP of ATMOSPHERE,

after the GHGs REFRACTED that 22% to SPACE

After the cooling green house gases, FIRST cooling the planet 22%

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING that SAME 22% back so it was "like thay wusn't evun thair, yaW!"

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING FURTHER ENERGY to the point the ENTIRE COLD NITROGEN OXYGEN ATMOPSHERE * * *AND PLANET SURFACE* * *

were warmed an ADDITIONAL 33 degrees.

SHOW us all that or you're the bumbling public schooler who believed it when government employees told you a COLD NITROGEN/OXYGEN BATH is a HEEDUR.

Basic atmospheric physics dude.THere's an accounting for the solar radiation budget and the "back radiation" from the atmosphere is PART of that accounting. It's the LWIR that reduces the planet heat loss from space from LWIR emissions from the atmos that end up hitting the surface and REDUCING the net transfer skyward.

You MIGHT be atmospheric "chemist" but maybe you've never done the Radiative physics example that's in EVERY atmospheric physics book I've looked at. Sample below. It's the simple SUBTRACTION of opposing fluxes of IR interchange with the sky. Without ACKNOWLEDGING THIS -- you're denying the basics of GHouse theory. Are you denying GHouse theory?

I'll go dig up the cite if ya want it later.

There's no physical theory saying INSULATION BETWEEN a FIRE and ROCK

making LESS FIRELIGHT WARM the ROCK

makes MORE FIRELIGHT warm the ROCK.

WHAT'S the VERY FIRST STEP in CALCULATING the TEMPERATURE of the PLANET?

TELL ME THAT.

WHAT's the VERY FIRST THING YOU DO when you decide you're going to CALCULATE the TEMPERATURE of the PLANET?

YOU - went to the PUBLIC schools. Where they taught your grandpa that "DEVIL WEAD'S LIKE HEROIN".

They ALSO told you INSULATION between a ROCK and FIRE making LESS FIRELIGHT reach the ROCK

makes MORE FIRELIGHT reach the ROCK.

No? You come back when you can tell us the FIRST step in CALCULATING the TEMPERATURE of the ATMOSPHERE.

We'll all wait here and see how much you actually know about whether a COLD NITROGEN BATH can be a HEATER.

Also tell me and the readers of this thread, the name of the LAW
governing atmospheric temperature.

Do it or you're so dumb you don't even know what law of PHYSICS you're talking about.

We'll all wait,
YOU go find out those two things.

The FIRST STEP in SOLVING Atmospheric TEMPERATURE

&

the NAME of the LAW of PHYSICS that GOVERNS the TEMPERATURES of GASES - hence the ATMOSPHERE.

YOUR CAREER at TACO BELL
vs
MY CAREER as an ATMOSPHERIC CHEMIST and ATMOSPHERIC RADIATION ENGINEER.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Shouldn't you rich, white, green-freak, climangelical extremists be starving more third-world people to death? That's all you've accomplished with this nonsense.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

This thread should belongs either in religion or conspiracy theories.

 

[flacaltenn]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s
and furthermore,
therm-0-billy,

The AMERICANS, driven by demand globally for accurate atmospheric information derived from REAL FLIGHTS going into orbit as only the Americans had done so much,
PUBLISHED in 1976 THE AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL ATMOSPHERE

WHICH VERIFIES EVERY LAST VALUE of the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE

and SUPPLIES FURTHER SCIENTIFIC READINGS and calculations going up SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND FEET FURTHER.

Those calculated values first discovered by the FRENCH in 1864
HAVE NEVER been CHANGED. And THOSE VERY SAME VALUES

are the IDENTICAL VALUES used to CALIBRATE every INSTRUMENT on this PLANET, warranty and guarantee ever STOVE, every OVEN, every ENGINE, every MOTOR, every AERONAUTICAL PART, every AEROSPACE PART,
every AUTOMOBILE PART, every FAN, every LIGHT -

that must be REGULATED or WARRANTIED on THIS PLANET
is TESTED with INSTRUMENTS CALIBRATED against that

INTERNATIONAL or
AMERICAN STANDARD ATMOSPHERE
and TESTED WITHIN PROPER PARAMETERS TRACEABLE to their nominal temps, pressures, etc
@ Mean Sea Level or any particular altitude.

Every ALTITUDE device,
Every NAVIGATION COMPUTER,
CALCULATES it's ATMOSPHERIC VALUES
in EVERY JETLINER ABOVE this PLANET AS we SPEAK
USING INSTRUMENTATION CALIBRATED against these UNCHANGING PARAMETERS.

If you don't LIKE that, TOUGH SH**.
THAT'S how it is.

When our PLANES start FALLING SHORT and RUNNING OUT of FUEL
and their ALTIMETERS don't WORK any more

the International Standard and American Standard Atmosphere CALIBRATION STANDARDS

will be wrong, and YOU - who thought a COLD NITROGEN BATH ATMOSPHERE is a magical HEATER

will be right.

:^)
Funny and Undocumented Diatribe.
I present/Link NASA/NOAA, you pull stuff from thin air.
The "planes falling from the air" (among many others), and the CAPS fest, devastates your credibility.
`

YOU NEED to SHOW US ALL where the ENERGY CAME FROM to WARM the ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE

back up from the 22% COOLING installed by the GREEN HOUSE GASES

when they STOPPED that light GETTING to the SURFACE from TOP of ATMOSPHERE,

after the GHGs REFRACTED that 22% to SPACE

After the cooling green house gases, FIRST cooling the planet 22%

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING that SAME 22% back so it was "like thay wusn't evun thair, yaW!"

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING FURTHER ENERGY to the point the ENTIRE COLD NITROGEN OXYGEN ATMOPSHERE * * *AND PLANET SURFACE* * *

were warmed an ADDITIONAL 33 degrees.

SHOW us all that or you're the bumbling public schooler who believed it when government employees told you a COLD NITROGEN/OXYGEN BATH is a HEEDUR.

Basic atmospheric physics dude.THere's an accounting for the solar radiation budget and the "back radiation" from the atmosphere is PART of that accounting. It's the LWIR that reduces the planet heat loss from space from LWIR emissions from the atmos that end up hitting the surface and REDUCING the net transfer skyward.

You MIGHT be atmospheric "chemist" but maybe you've never done the Radiative physics example that's in EVERY atmospheric physics book I've looked at. Sample below. It's the simple SUBTRACTION of opposing fluxes of IR interchange with the sky. Without ACKNOWLEDGING THIS -- you're denying the basics of GHouse theory. Are you denying GHouse theory?

I'll go dig up the cite if ya want it later.

There's no physical theory saying INSULATION BETWEEN a FIRE and ROCK

making LESS FIRELIGHT WARM the ROCK

makes MORE FIRELIGHT warm the ROCK.

WHAT'S the VERY FIRST STEP in CALCULATING the TEMPERATURE of the PLANET?

TELL ME THAT.

WHAT's the VERY FIRST THING YOU DO when you decide you're going to CALCULATE the TEMPERATURE of the PLANET?

YOU - went to the PUBLIC schools. Where they taught your grandpa that "DEVIL WEAD'S LIKE HEROIN".

They ALSO told you INSULATION between a ROCK and FIRE making LESS FIRELIGHT reach the ROCK

makes MORE FIRELIGHT reach the ROCK.

No? You come back when you can tell us the FIRST step in CALCULATING the TEMPERATURE of the ATMOSPHERE.

We'll all wait here and see how much you actually know about whether a COLD NITROGEN BATH can be a HEATER.

Tell me the name of the LAW governing atmospheric temperature.

Do it or you're so stupid you don't even know what law of PHYSICS you're talking about.

We'll all wait, YOU go find out those two things. The FIRST STEP in SOLVING Atmospheric TEMPERATURE

the NAME of the LAW of PHYSICS that GOVERNS the TEMPERATURES of GASES - hence the ATMOSPHERE.

YOUR CAREER at TACO BELL
vs
MY CAREER as an ATMOSPHERIC CHEMIST.

So you ARE denying GHouse theory. Which BTW -- is active both DAY AND NIGHT when no solar forcing is present. Without the "insulation" you're career would be as a popsicle.

What is this tirade of words and taunts here. There is NO academically trained person that speaks like that. Not in science or any tech discipline. EVERY MATERIAL that can absorb heat radiates LWave IR. Even cold rocks radiates LWIR to a warm rock. Insulated or not. That's basic radiative physics.

Tell me what radiative physics is.. In your own words. WITHOUT the shouting and taunts.

 

[flacaltenn]

Or better yet. As an Atmospheric Chemist with over 8 years of college level discipline -- tell me quickly without googling shit or having a twin cow with the taunting crap, why CO2 is a GHouse gas and CO is not..

 

[Allen Eltor]

Or better yet. As an Atmospheric Chemist with over 8 years of college level discipline -- tell me quickly without googling shit or having a twin cow with the taunting crap, why CO2 is a GHouse gas and CO is not..

The term GHG means refractive of the class light emitted by the planet, infrared.

Now. You tell me the name of the law, governing the temperature of gases, hence the Atmosphere. Can you do that?

When you can't, what's that say about your level of knowledge on the subject?

And you won't be able to. How do I know? You think the atmosphere heats the planet.

You think a cold nitrogen bath warms the object it's conduction cooling and you think the

light blocking refrigerants in the bath, are what made it a heater.

No,
no,
no.

That's just false. Which is why you can't refer to a single other cold nitrogen/oxygen bath

in all thermodynamics,

that makes the light-warmed object it blocks 22% of the light to,

"warmer than if the cold nitrogen bath wasn't cooling it."

Show us - ANY evidence of ANOTHER cold nitrogen/oxygen bath r
aising the temperature of something it conduction chills.

Take your time. When you can't, tell me what you think the reason for that is.

 

[Allen Eltor]

I've got some sad news for you, dumb dumb. You're being the victim of a gigantic hoax. The planet's temperature hasn't changed since the French first calculated it's temperature in 1864.

Their calculations have NEVER been changed and those VERY values for temperature, humidity and pressure, etc
are the SAME ones ensconced in the INTERNATIONAL PHYSICAL CALIBRATION and REGULATORY STANDARD

named the International Standard Atmosphere in the late 1950s
and furthermore,
therm-0-billy,

The AMERICANS, driven by demand globally for accurate atmospheric information derived from REAL FLIGHTS going into orbit as only the Americans had done so much,
PUBLISHED in 1976 THE AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL ATMOSPHERE

WHICH VERIFIES EVERY LAST VALUE of the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ATMOSPHERE

and SUPPLIES FURTHER SCIENTIFIC READINGS and calculations going up SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND FEET FURTHER.

Those calculated values first discovered by the FRENCH in 1864
HAVE NEVER been CHANGED. And THOSE VERY SAME VALUES

are the IDENTICAL VALUES used to CALIBRATE every INSTRUMENT on this PLANET, warranty and guarantee ever STOVE, every OVEN, every ENGINE, every MOTOR, every AERONAUTICAL PART, every AEROSPACE PART,
every AUTOMOBILE PART, every FAN, every LIGHT -

that must be REGULATED or WARRANTIED on THIS PLANET
is TESTED with INSTRUMENTS CALIBRATED against that

INTERNATIONAL or
AMERICAN STANDARD ATMOSPHERE
and TESTED WITHIN PROPER PARAMETERS TRACEABLE to their nominal temps, pressures, etc
@ Mean Sea Level or any particular altitude.

Every ALTITUDE device,
Every NAVIGATION COMPUTER,
CALCULATES it's ATMOSPHERIC VALUES
in EVERY JETLINER ABOVE this PLANET AS we SPEAK
USING INSTRUMENTATION CALIBRATED against these UNCHANGING PARAMETERS.

If you don't LIKE that, TOUGH SH**.
THAT'S how it is.

When our PLANES start FALLING SHORT and RUNNING OUT of FUEL
and their ALTIMETERS don't WORK any more

the International Standard and American Standard Atmosphere CALIBRATION STANDARDS

will be wrong, and YOU - who thought a COLD NITROGEN BATH ATMOSPHERE is a magical HEATER

will be right.

:^)
Funny and Undocumented Diatribe.
I present/Link NASA/NOAA, you pull stuff from thin air.
The "planes falling from the air" (among many others), and the CAPS fest, devastates your credibility.
`

YOU NEED to SHOW US ALL where the ENERGY CAME FROM to WARM the ENTIRE ATMOSPHERE

back up from the 22% COOLING installed by the GREEN HOUSE GASES

when they STOPPED that light GETTING to the SURFACE from TOP of ATMOSPHERE,

after the GHGs REFRACTED that 22% to SPACE

After the cooling green house gases, FIRST cooling the planet 22%

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING that SAME 22% back so it was "like thay wusn't evun thair, yaW!"

then SPONTANEOUSLY GENERATING FURTHER ENERGY to the point the ENTIRE COLD NITROGEN OXYGEN ATMOPSHERE * * *AND PLANET SURFACE* * *

were warmed an ADDITIONAL 33 degrees.

SHOW us all that or you're the bumbling public schooler who believed it when government employees told you a COLD NITROGEN/OXYGEN BATH is a HEEDUR.

Basic atmospheric physics dude.THere's an accounting for the solar radiation budget and the "back radiation" from the atmosphere is PART of that accounting. It's the LWIR that reduces the planet heat loss from space from LWIR emissions from the atmos that end up hitting the surface and REDUCING the net transfer skyward.

You MIGHT be atmospheric "chemist" but maybe you've never done the Radiative physics example that's in EVERY atmospheric physics book I've looked at. Sample below. It's the simple SUBTRACTION of opposing fluxes of IR interchange with the sky. Without ACKNOWLEDGING THIS -- you're denying the basics of GHouse theory. Are you denying GHouse theory?

I'll go dig up the cite if ya want it later.

There's no physical theory saying INSULATION BETWEEN a FIRE and ROCK

making LESS FIRELIGHT WARM the ROCK

makes MORE FIRELIGHT warm the ROCK.

WHAT'S the VERY FIRST STEP in CALCULATING the TEMPERATURE of the PLANET?

TELL ME THAT.

WHAT's the VERY FIRST THING YOU DO when you decide you're going to CALCULATE the TEMPERATURE of the PLANET?

YOU - went to the PUBLIC schools. Where they taught your grandpa that "DEVIL WEAD'S LIKE HEROIN".

They ALSO told you INSULATION between a ROCK and FIRE making LESS FIRELIGHT reach the ROCK

makes MORE FIRELIGHT reach the ROCK.

No? You come back when you can tell us the FIRST step in CALCULATING the TEMPERATURE of the ATMOSPHERE.

We'll all wait here and see how much you actually know about whether a COLD NITROGEN BATH can be a HEATER.

Tell me the name of the LAW governing atmospheric temperature.

Do it or you're so stupid you don't even know what law of PHYSICS you're talking about.

We'll all wait, YOU go find out those two things. The FIRST STEP in SOLVING Atmospheric TEMPERATURE

the NAME of the LAW of PHYSICS that GOVERNS the TEMPERATURES of GASES - hence the ATMOSPHERE.

YOUR CAREER at TACO BELL
vs
MY CAREER as an ATMOSPHERIC CHEMIST.

So you ARE denying GHouse theory. Which BTW -- is active both DAY AND NIGHT when no solar forcing is present. Without the "insulation" you're career would be as a popsicle.

What is this tirade of words and taunts here. There is NO academically trained person that speaks like that. Not in science or any tech discipline. EVERY MATERIAL that can absorb heat radiates LWave IR. Even cold rocks radiates LWIR to a warm rock. Insulated or not. That's basic radiative physics.

Tell me what radiative physics is.. In your own words. WITHOUT the shouting and taunts.

Radiative physics is the science of electromagnetic energy moving via the mode referred to as "radiant transfer."

Radiant transfer is when no physical medium exists, and energy moves according to the laws governing Electromagnetic Energy's propagation characteristics.

Now.

You tell the members of this forum the name of the law of thermodynamics written for solving the temperatures of gases

and you won't be the guy claiming you're gonna check the work of a radiation and atmospheric chemist, not even being able to

name of the law of physics governing what you're talking about.

 

[Old Rocks]

Bwhaaaaaaaaaaa

Not this crap again.... Your gods adjusted up several areas that were cooling again.... Funny how that happens in ares where there is no ground based checks available to show your lies..

Not this crap that comes from scientific data. Better to have good stuff that some dude made up with money from oil companies.

You'll note that you didn't actually provide an argument. Just a bullshit "fake news".

I would love to see their raw data. Not the computer derived fiction they shovel to you mushrooms.

Now Mr. Westwall, with the level of intellect you have displayed on this board, you would not be able to interpret it in any case. And it is not just NOAA and NASA that is stating we are in a rapidly warming world. The nations of the EU, Japan, and China are stating the same from data that they have collected.

 

[Old Rocks]

What a steaming load of denial. No warming since 1995!

I love it.

Does this look normal to you? It's called "Stratospheric Aerosol Injection Spraying" of heavy metal nano-particulates which is a program that has been going on in earnest since 1997.


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[westwall]

Bwhaaaaaaaaaaa

Not this crap again.... Your gods adjusted up several areas that were cooling again.... Funny how that happens in ares where there is no ground based checks available to show your lies..

Not this crap that comes from scientific data. Better to have good stuff that some dude made up with money from oil companies.

You'll note that you didn't actually provide an argument. Just a bullshit "fake news".

I would love to see their raw data. Not the computer derived fiction they shovel to you mushrooms.

Now Mr. Westwall, with the level of intellect you have displayed on this board, you would not be able to interpret it in any case. And it is not just NOAA and NASA that is stating we are in a rapidly warming world. The nations of the EU, Japan, and China are stating the same from data that they have collected.

Good. Let's see the raw data.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Bwhaaaaaaaaaaa

Not this crap again.... Your gods adjusted up several areas that were cooling again.... Funny how that happens in ares where there is no ground based checks available to show your lies..

Not this crap that comes from scientific data. Better to have good stuff that some dude made up with money from oil companies.

You'll note that you didn't actually provide an argument. Just a bullshit "fake news".

I would love to see their raw data. Not the computer derived fiction they shovel to you mushrooms.

Now Mr. Westwall, with the level of intellect you have displayed on this board, you would not be able to interpret it in any case. And it is not just NOAA and NASA that is stating we are in a rapidly warming world. The nations of the EU, Japan, and China are stating the same from data that they have collected.

He’s forgotten that everyone who registers democrat is awarded an honorary PHD in atmospherics.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Basic atmospheric physics dude.

So, let me get this straight...

are you essentially stating that people that who have dedicated their lives to these fields do not know basic atmospheric physics?