List of terrorist attacks in the US of A

[irosie91]

how about the pious regular at the mosque NIQABI Tashfeen Malik?? Can
you name a jewess who got anywhere near the filth of that muslimah slut?

 

[Indofred]

It is not clear to me to which "terrorist" actions or persons you refer?

JDL, a known terrorist group.
Jewish Defense League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They're known for a number of terrorist actions in the United states.

Will you condemn that group?

 

[Indofred]

Much as it's in fashion to condemn Muslims terrorists (and I do), we are seeing a total refusal to accept there are other terrorists in the US, and even a rather bad attempt to hide their attacks of some because they were Jewish.
It's shameful how terrorist supporters such as rosie are allowed to preach hate of people they accuse of terrorism, but excusing their own terrorist groups.

We can see where terrorist supporters really are in the United states.

 

[irosie91]

PS-----I am trying to remember some "jewish terrorist" who invaded a social service
party with a machine gun in the USA------

They tend to use bombs, ask Irv Rubin.

Is that the best you can do? Irv Rubin, unlike the pious muslimah slut,
tashfeen malik-----never killed anyone----other than himself. He was convicted
of maybe PLANNING bomb a mosque. Even that "crime" of planning vandalism was not actually proven

 

[irosie91]

It is not clear to me to which "terrorist" actions or persons you refer?

JDL, a known terrorist group.
Jewish Defense League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They're known for a number of terrorist actions in the United states.

Will you condemn that group?

You got a proven event in which people were murdered wholesale?

 

[irosie91]

It is not clear to me to which "terrorist" actions or persons you refer?

JDL, a known terrorist group.
Jewish Defense League - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They're known for a number of terrorist actions in the United states.

Will you condemn that group?

I will condemn any group or PERSON who engages in wonton murder of unarmed
persons------you got some JDL person who came close to the filth of the pious muslimah niqabi bitch tashfeen malik?? That bitch for allah even tried to murder
cops intercepting her escape into the arms of her loving bretheren terrorist dog ummah-mates

 

[Pogo]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

 

[ChrisL]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Mortal fear? Not quite. I see no need to "invite" them though.

 

[ChrisL]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

BTW, I didn't both reading most of this because I know it is the usual "criticize us" type of crap. Nobody cares. We feel what we feel. Your silly charts are not going to change that.

 

[ChrisL]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

 

[Pogo]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

BTW, I didn't both reading most of this because I know it is the usual "criticize us" type of crap. Nobody cares. We feel what we feel. Your silly charts are not going to change that.

The "silly charts" are FBI stats. And the thrust of the whole thing is to demonstrate that the perception doesn't even nearly match the reality, the difference being where the media concentrates --- because the media knows what sells, and what doesn't. Obviously things are not always as they appear; that's what stats are for.

But the way to preserve the myth and ignore all that reality is to go
Looks like you got that part down.

 

[Pogo]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media. Media and damnagogues who exploit it like Rump.
The stats prove that.

Why the hell do you think I'm always railing about the commercial media here? I just demonstrated why.

 

[ChrisL]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media.
The stats prove it.

It's because of 9/11.

 

[Pogo]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media.
The stats prove it.

It's because of 9/11.

Yup. 9/11 was a, to use a Rumpian adjective, YUUUGE business opportunity. I wonder how much extra ad money has been made milking that fear factor. It would be impossible to measure but I wonder anyway.

Money, and political rhetoric -- Rudy Giuliani miked an entire campaign out of it. Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are still milking big website operations out of it. And of course Donald Rump, ever the opportunist, uses it as yet another tool to do what he does best --- attract attention to himself.

Unfortunately those elements in doing so deliberately dilute the dynamics down from their political background to a handy bite-size "religion" label. They do that because politics is complex, and complexity takes time to explain, and taking time to explain loses audience, especially in a medium like television that simply cannot handle complexity. So the bottom line being profit, they'll dilute everything down to the level of pure emotion. That's how you $ell TV ads.

This guy understands that too:

"If two guys are talking and one guy says, 'I know how to bring peace to the Middle East' and the other guy falls into the orchestra pit, which one do you think is going to be on the evening news?"​

--- Roger Ailes said that. He knows the game, because he's part of it. And he got to BE part of it because he understands how it works.

In commercial media, the objective is to sell ads and produce a profit -- it is not to inform. That's why they do what they do. That's why a joint like Fox Noise is entirely about Fear and centers on politicians (the personal) rather than policy (the complex). That's why the Weather Channel spends all that time on disaster documentaries in prime time instead of, say, weather. That's why you local Fraction News leads with some fire or burglary or scandal, and not that resolution your city council passed that actually affects you. That's not emotional enough. But a fire in an apartment building in some area you've never been to, when you can get a camera on a tearful stranger who lost her pet in the fire? Oh, your ad rates just spiked.

Emotion $ells -- complexity does not. You can spend three hours trying to explain the geopolitics and histories behind terrorism --- or you can just slap a label on it and denigrate the label. Guess which one's going to be on the evening news. Guess which one will sell.

And that's why I posted that chart. Just as TV only handles emotion and can't handle complexity, stats do the opposite.

Just think of me as "Captain Antidote".

I'll never be in a position to sell ads. But -- that's not my objective.

 

[ChrisL]

The link shows how full of it the op is.

They had to separate the Jihadist terrorism from the others and give it an entirely different link to show all of the attacks and plots that failed since 1977. There are so many that it dwarfed all of the others, and they are becoming more and more frequent since 2001.

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media.
The stats prove it.

It's because of 9/11.

Yup. 9/11 was a, to use a Rumpian adjective, YUUUGE business opportunity. I wonder how much extra ad money has been made milking that fear factor. It would be impossible to measure but I wonder anyway.

Money, and political rhetoric -- Rudy Giuliani miked an entire campaign out of it. Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are still milking big website operations out of it. And of course Donald Rump, ever the opportunist, uses it as yet another tool to do what he does best --- attract attention to himself.

Unfortunately those elements in doing so deliberately dilute the dynamics down from their political background to a handy bite-size "religion" label. They do that because politics is complex, and complexity takes time to explain, and taking time to explain loses audience, especially in a medium like television that simply cannot handle complexity. So the bottom line being profit, they'll dilute everything down to the level of pure emotion. That's how you $ell TV ads.

This guy understands that too:

"If two guys are talking and one guy says, 'I know how to bring peace to the Middle East' and the other guy falls into the orchestra pit, which one do you think is going to be on the evening news?"​

--- Roger Ailes said that. He knows the game, because he's part of it. And he got to BE part of it because he understands how it works.

In commercial media, the objective is to sell ads and produce a profit -- it is not to inform. That's why they do what they do. That's why a joint like Fox Noise is entirely about Fear and centers on politicians (the personal) rather than policy (the complex). That's why the Weather Channel spends all that time on disaster documentaries in prime time instead of, say, weather. That's why you local Fraction News leads with some fire or burglary or scandal, and not that resolution your city council passed that actually affects you. That's not emotional enough. But a fire in an apartment building in some area you've never been to, when you can get a camera on a tearful stranger who lost her pet in the fire? Oh, your ad rates just spiked.

Emotion $ells -- complexity does not. You can spend three hours trying to explain the geopolitics and histories behind terrorism --- or you can just slap a label on it and denigrate the label. Guess which one's going to be on the evening news. Guess which one will sell.

And that's why I posted that chart. Just as TV only handles emotion and can't handle complexity, stats do the opposite.

Just think of me as "Captain Antidote".

I'll never be in a position to sell ads. But -- that's not my objective.

TL/DR. People don't trust Muslims because of 9/11, when they killed 3000 innocent people.

 

[Pogo]

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media.
The stats prove it.

It's because of 9/11.

Yup. 9/11 was a, to use a Rumpian adjective, YUUUGE business opportunity. I wonder how much extra ad money has been made milking that fear factor. It would be impossible to measure but I wonder anyway.

Money, and political rhetoric -- Rudy Giuliani miked an entire campaign out of it. Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are still milking big website operations out of it. And of course Donald Rump, ever the opportunist, uses it as yet another tool to do what he does best --- attract attention to himself.

Unfortunately those elements in doing so deliberately dilute the dynamics down from their political background to a handy bite-size "religion" label. They do that because politics is complex, and complexity takes time to explain, and taking time to explain loses audience, especially in a medium like television that simply cannot handle complexity. So the bottom line being profit, they'll dilute everything down to the level of pure emotion. That's how you $ell TV ads.

This guy understands that too:

"If two guys are talking and one guy says, 'I know how to bring peace to the Middle East' and the other guy falls into the orchestra pit, which one do you think is going to be on the evening news?"​

--- Roger Ailes said that. He knows the game, because he's part of it. And he got to BE part of it because he understands how it works.

In commercial media, the objective is to sell ads and produce a profit -- it is not to inform. That's why they do what they do. That's why a joint like Fox Noise is entirely about Fear and centers on politicians (the personal) rather than policy (the complex). That's why the Weather Channel spends all that time on disaster documentaries in prime time instead of, say, weather. That's why you local Fraction News leads with some fire or burglary or scandal, and not that resolution your city council passed that actually affects you. That's not emotional enough. But a fire in an apartment building in some area you've never been to, when you can get a camera on a tearful stranger who lost her pet in the fire? Oh, your ad rates just spiked.

Emotion $ells -- complexity does not. You can spend three hours trying to explain the geopolitics and histories behind terrorism --- or you can just slap a label on it and denigrate the label. Guess which one's going to be on the evening news. Guess which one will sell.

And that's why I posted that chart. Just as TV only handles emotion and can't handle complexity, stats do the opposite.

Just think of me as "Captain Antidote".

I'll never be in a position to sell ads. But -- that's not my objective.

TL/DR. People don't trust Muslims because of 9/11, when they killed 3000 innocent people.

Exactly -- TL/DR. It's always less work to stay with the old myths. Path of least resistance. Ignorance is bliss.

My problem is I never did get into wallowing.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I got yer perspective right here, even though this has been posted a dozen times.....

​

>> Yet, Americans continue to live in mortal fear of radical Islam, a fear propagated and inflamed by right wing Islamophobes. If one follows the cable news networks, it seems as if all terrorists are Muslims. It has even become axiomatic in some circles to chant: “Not all Muslims are terrorists, but nearly all terrorists are Muslims.” Muslims and their “leftist dhimmi allies” respond feebly, mentioning Waco as the one counter example, unwittingly affirming the belief that “nearly all terrorists are Muslims.”

But perception is not reality. The data simply does not support such a hasty conclusion. On the FBI’s official website, there exists a chronological list of all terrorist attacks committed on U.S. soil from the year 1980 all the way to 2005. That list can be accessed here (scroll down all the way to the bottom).

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%). These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

Yet notice the disparity in media coverage between the two. It would indeed be very interesting to construct a corresponding pie chart that depicted the level of media coverage of each group. The reason that Muslim apologists and their “leftist dhimmi allies” cannot recall another non-Islamic act of terrorism other than Waco is due to the fact that the media gives menial (if any) coverage to such events. If a terrorist attack does not fit the “Islam is the perennial and existential threat of our times” narrative, it is simply not paid much attention to, which in a circuitous manner reinforces and “proves” the preconceived narrative. It is to such an extent that the average American cannot remember any Jewish or Latino terrorist; why should he when he has never even heard of the Jewish Defense League or the Ejercito Popular Boricua Macheteros? Surely what he does not know does not exist!

The Islamophobes claim that Islam is intrinsically a terrorist religion. The proof? Well, just about every terrorist attack is Islamic, they retort. Unfortunately for them, that’s not quite true. More like six percent. Using their defunct logic, these right wingers ought now to conclude that nearly all acts of terrorism are committed by Latinos (or Jews).

... The Islamophobes live in a fantasy world where everyone is supposedly too “politically correct” to criticize Islam and Muslims. Yet, the reality is the exact opposite: you can get away with saying anything against the crescent. Can you imagine the reaction if I said that Latinos should be profiled because after all they are the ones who commit the most terrorism in the country? << (page here)
​

Then, of course, there's the "religious terrorism" angle that singles out Islam, or whatever the Emmanuel Goldstein of the Day is, while ignoring all these, most recently less than two weeks ago in Colorado. Or the Ku Klux Klan.

Double Standards-R-us. At least when it's time to sell Fear.

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media.
The stats prove it.

It's because of 9/11.

Yup. 9/11 was a, to use a Rumpian adjective, YUUUGE business opportunity. I wonder how much extra ad money has been made milking that fear factor. It would be impossible to measure but I wonder anyway.

Money, and political rhetoric -- Rudy Giuliani miked an entire campaign out of it. Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are still milking big website operations out of it. And of course Donald Rump, ever the opportunist, uses it as yet another tool to do what he does best --- attract attention to himself.

Unfortunately those elements in doing so deliberately dilute the dynamics down from their political background to a handy bite-size "religion" label. They do that because politics is complex, and complexity takes time to explain, and taking time to explain loses audience, especially in a medium like television that simply cannot handle complexity. So the bottom line being profit, they'll dilute everything down to the level of pure emotion. That's how you $ell TV ads.

This guy understands that too:

"If two guys are talking and one guy says, 'I know how to bring peace to the Middle East' and the other guy falls into the orchestra pit, which one do you think is going to be on the evening news?"​

--- Roger Ailes said that. He knows the game, because he's part of it. And he got to BE part of it because he understands how it works.

In commercial media, the objective is to sell ads and produce a profit -- it is not to inform. That's why they do what they do. That's why a joint like Fox Noise is entirely about Fear and centers on politicians (the personal) rather than policy (the complex). That's why the Weather Channel spends all that time on disaster documentaries in prime time instead of, say, weather. That's why you local Fraction News leads with some fire or burglary or scandal, and not that resolution your city council passed that actually affects you. That's not emotional enough. But a fire in an apartment building in some area you've never been to, when you can get a camera on a tearful stranger who lost her pet in the fire? Oh, your ad rates just spiked.

Emotion $ells -- complexity does not. You can spend three hours trying to explain the geopolitics and histories behind terrorism --- or you can just slap a label on it and denigrate the label. Guess which one's going to be on the evening news. Guess which one will sell.

And that's why I posted that chart. Just as TV only handles emotion and can't handle complexity, stats do the opposite.

Just think of me as "Captain Antidote".

I'll never be in a position to sell ads. But -- that's not my objective.

TL/DR. People don't trust Muslims because of 9/11, when they killed 3000 innocent people.

But it wasn't "Muslims" who killed 3000 people.

It was extremist terrorists who, btw, have killed many more Muslims than Americans.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Let's put this another way. If I boarded a plane and saw some Muslims on my plane, I would probably stay on the plane. However, I would be VERY nervous. Is that my fault? No.

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media.
The stats prove it.

It's because of 9/11.

Yup. 9/11 was a, to use a Rumpian adjective, YUUUGE business opportunity. I wonder how much extra ad money has been made milking that fear factor. It would be impossible to measure but I wonder anyway.

Money, and political rhetoric -- Rudy Giuliani miked an entire campaign out of it. Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are still milking big website operations out of it. And of course Donald Rump, ever the opportunist, uses it as yet another tool to do what he does best --- attract attention to himself.

Unfortunately those elements in doing so deliberately dilute the dynamics down from their political background to a handy bite-size "religion" label. They do that because politics is complex, and complexity takes time to explain, and taking time to explain loses audience, especially in a medium like television that simply cannot handle complexity. So the bottom line being profit, they'll dilute everything down to the level of pure emotion. That's how you $ell TV ads.

This guy understands that too:

"If two guys are talking and one guy says, 'I know how to bring peace to the Middle East' and the other guy falls into the orchestra pit, which one do you think is going to be on the evening news?"​

--- Roger Ailes said that. He knows the game, because he's part of it. And he got to BE part of it because he understands how it works.

In commercial media, the objective is to sell ads and produce a profit -- it is not to inform. That's why they do what they do. That's why a joint like Fox Noise is entirely about Fear and centers on politicians (the personal) rather than policy (the complex). That's why the Weather Channel spends all that time on disaster documentaries in prime time instead of, say, weather. That's why you local Fraction News leads with some fire or burglary or scandal, and not that resolution your city council passed that actually affects you. That's not emotional enough. But a fire in an apartment building in some area you've never been to, when you can get a camera on a tearful stranger who lost her pet in the fire? Oh, your ad rates just spiked.

Emotion $ells -- complexity does not. You can spend three hours trying to explain the geopolitics and histories behind terrorism --- or you can just slap a label on it and denigrate the label. Guess which one's going to be on the evening news. Guess which one will sell.

And that's why I posted that chart. Just as TV only handles emotion and can't handle complexity, stats do the opposite.

Just think of me as "Captain Antidote".

I'll never be in a position to sell ads. But -- that's not my objective.

TL/DR. People don't trust Muslims because of 9/11, when they killed 3000 innocent people.

Exactly -- TL/DR. It's always less work to stay with the old myths. Path of least resistance. Ignorance is bliss.

My problem is I never did get into wallowing.

Your graph does not show the supposed huge number of rightwing types.

 

[Pogo]

Agreed, it's not.
It's the media.
The stats prove it.

It's because of 9/11.

Yup. 9/11 was a, to use a Rumpian adjective, YUUUGE business opportunity. I wonder how much extra ad money has been made milking that fear factor. It would be impossible to measure but I wonder anyway.

Money, and political rhetoric -- Rudy Giuliani miked an entire campaign out of it. Pam Geller and Robert Spencer are still milking big website operations out of it. And of course Donald Rump, ever the opportunist, uses it as yet another tool to do what he does best --- attract attention to himself.

Unfortunately those elements in doing so deliberately dilute the dynamics down from their political background to a handy bite-size "religion" label. They do that because politics is complex, and complexity takes time to explain, and taking time to explain loses audience, especially in a medium like television that simply cannot handle complexity. So the bottom line being profit, they'll dilute everything down to the level of pure emotion. That's how you $ell TV ads.

This guy understands that too:

"If two guys are talking and one guy says, 'I know how to bring peace to the Middle East' and the other guy falls into the orchestra pit, which one do you think is going to be on the evening news?"​

--- Roger Ailes said that. He knows the game, because he's part of it. And he got to BE part of it because he understands how it works.

In commercial media, the objective is to sell ads and produce a profit -- it is not to inform. That's why they do what they do. That's why a joint like Fox Noise is entirely about Fear and centers on politicians (the personal) rather than policy (the complex). That's why the Weather Channel spends all that time on disaster documentaries in prime time instead of, say, weather. That's why you local Fraction News leads with some fire or burglary or scandal, and not that resolution your city council passed that actually affects you. That's not emotional enough. But a fire in an apartment building in some area you've never been to, when you can get a camera on a tearful stranger who lost her pet in the fire? Oh, your ad rates just spiked.

Emotion $ells -- complexity does not. You can spend three hours trying to explain the geopolitics and histories behind terrorism --- or you can just slap a label on it and denigrate the label. Guess which one's going to be on the evening news. Guess which one will sell.

And that's why I posted that chart. Just as TV only handles emotion and can't handle complexity, stats do the opposite.

Just think of me as "Captain Antidote".

I'll never be in a position to sell ads. But -- that's not my objective.

TL/DR. People don't trust Muslims because of 9/11, when they killed 3000 innocent people.

Exactly -- TL/DR. It's always less work to stay with the old myths. Path of least resistance. Ignorance is bliss.

My problem is I never did get into wallowing.

Your graph does not show the supposed huge number of rightwing types.

It's not supposed to. It's there to demonstrate the difference between the perceptions of "Islamic" attacks, and the actual numbers of them. It is more than anything else a statement about mass media, and how public perceptions suffer from a bias for what "sells".