Limbaugh's fault.

[bk1983]

Rush is nothing more then a oxycotin popping drug addict. He has no influence on politics, his listeners are not going there with an open mind. But rather to have their own neanderthal beliefs reaffirmed. The republican party has had its brand damaged by associating with this nut.

 

[editec]

I'll give you and idea of what the Conservative platform should look like if you'd like

Further reductions in Government spending without weakening the support of a superior defense program or depreciating the quality of essential services of government to our people.

Continued balancing of the budget, to assure the financial strength of the country which is so vital to the struggle of the free world in its battle against Communism; and to maintain the purchasing power of a sound dollar, and the value of savings, pensions and insurance.

Gradual reduction of the national debt.


Further reductions in taxes with particular consideration for low and middle income families.

Initiation of a sound policy of tax reductions which will encourage small independent businesses to modernize and progress.

Continual study of additional ways to correct inequities in the effect of various taxes.

Consistent with the Republican Administration's accomplishment in stemming the inflation —which under five Democrat Administrations had cut the value of the dollar in half, and so had robbed the wage earner and millions of thrifty citizens who had savings, pensions and insurance—we endorse the present policy of freedom for the Federal Reserve System to combat both inflation and deflation by wise fiscal policy.

The Republican Party believes that sound money, which retains its buying power, is an essential foundation for new jobs, a higher standard of living, protection of savings, a secure national defense

If you want to know what classic Repubican ism looks like (cause most of you have NEVER see it.

Look here:

What MOST% of you might be shocked to discover is that the CLASSIC REPUBLICAN looks a hell of a lot more like todays moderate DEMOCRAT, then any of you neocons.

American REPUBLICANS used to LOVE this country, AND its people, folks.

Some of the contempt for their fellow Americans that some so called Republicans on this board have expressed, that smug, I got mine get yours, indifference to the well being of your fellow Americans is nowhere to be found in the classic Republican platforms.

Some of you will recognize SOME of what you profess as being the same, but the neo-cons core belief that GOVERNMENT IS BAD AND MUST BE DESTROYED is nowhere to be found in CLASSIC REPUBLICANISM.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

LOL! Here we go again, if you don't agree with the wingnut theories of people like Publius, you are not truly American. LOL! What a bunch of losers!

Another 'true Conservative heard from and yet another opportunity to define 'true conservatism' LOST...

But for a VERY GOOD REASON... It is better to have people doubt your intellectual means than to post sufficient evidence to solidify the certainty that your intellectual means is non-existant.

What we see coming from this member is the pleading that everything is relative, all opinions are equal and just because someone disagrees that doesn't mean they're not an American...

Once more for the folks riding in the short intellectual bus...

Those that advance opinion which is antithetical (that means that the opinion opposes or that it stands against...) that concept represented by "American," then we can rest assured that they are Anti- (referenced from Antithetical) Americans...

Now occasionally, we'll find a leftist foolish enough to define 'American' and what we find when they do so, is that to fit into this concept, they define the concept down to something approaching meaningless; for instance they'll clamor on that the concept “American” is merely a geographical reference, indicating that an American is little more than that which resides in the Americas... and so on…

But as is always the case, it never really occurs to them that the level of angst which their protest indicates seems oddly out of place for someone that is simply being geographically misplaced. By that I mean, what's the big deal if someone claims you're Polish... or Irish or Spanish? You'd just correct them by telling them that you're a citizen of the United States, right?

SO... it follows that the angst is NOT a result of a geographical misplacement, but one relevant to loyalty to the principles on which the United States was founded... the angst is a result of someone suggesting that they are NOT someone who espouses opinions that indicate a loyalty to or are not aligned with the principles on which being an AMERICAN rests, which are those principles on which the United States was founded... which is where the bone of contention is raised and where they're unable to square their discontent and they're own closely held feelings, with what ‘being an American’ means.

But, with that said, I invite this member to square the advocacy of a Marxist candidate for the Presidency of the US with the principles on which AMERICA was founded...

(WARNING: HOLDING ONE'S BREATH WHILE WAITING ON A LEFTIST TO SUPPORT THEIR POSITION WILL RESULT IN CERTAIN DEATH!)

 

[Gunny]

Rushes audience is shrinking because he's been lying to people for years and the evidence of his Neo-Republican has manifested recently so obviously that even the dumbest of the dumb realized what total bullshit he's been selling.

The election of Barrack Obama has just extended Rush's life at least another 4 years. Don't kid yourself.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Isn't it wonderful how these 'true Conservatives' can NEVER define what that is supposed to mean?


I mean this screed clearly means that being an American is effectively meaningless... anyone can apparently be an American with absolutely NO responsibility being associated to the concept.

Gee... that sounds VERY FAMILIAR TO ME... It simply wreaks of Left-think.

Here's a tip sis... Being an American comes wih understanding what America means and holding to the principles on which she is founded. Lending credence to those who decidedly oppose those principles does not make you an American, it makes you an enabler of those out to destroy the means of the nation to exercise those principles through her government. And sis, just so ya know, you're not free to advocate for that which will destroy America...

Well thank you Senator McCarthy. Its very kind of you to inform everyone from the after-life what it means to be an American!

Does anyone see a definition of what "American" means to this member?

I surely do not... So wouldn't it be fair to say that this member has, by pure default, verfied the position which she has otherwise sought to … berate?


ROFLMNAO... once again it looks like we have yet another leftist desperately wanting to avoid the very labels which they've worked so damn hard to earn.

GO FIGURE!

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

I'll give you and idea of what the Conservative platform should look like if you'd like




If you want to know what classic Repubican ism looks like (cause most of you have NEVER see it.

Look here:

What MOST% of you might be shocked to discover is that the CLASSIC REPUBLICAN looks a hell of a lot more like todays moderate DEMOCRAT, then any of you neocons.

American REPUBLICANS used to LOVE this country, AND its people, folks.

Some of the contempt for their fellow Americans that some so called Republicans on this board have expressed, that smug, I got mine get yours, indifference to the well being of your fellow Americans is nowhere to be found in the classic Republican platforms.

Some of you will recognize SOME of what you profess as being the same, but the neo-cons core belief that GOVERNMENT IS BAD AND MUST BE DESTROYED is nowhere to be found in CLASSIC REPUBLICANISM.

So what this member is saying is that she can't actually explain what Conservatism, or 'Americanism,' as it were, IS; but she's got a couple of of sources that she'd like to reference towards that end. Of course she does this so that when the rubuttal comes, she can't be held accountable for the position's failure.

The simple fact is that when a leftist is foolish enough to engage a discussion of what being a conservative OKA: An American is... they quickly find themselves in a sharply contrasting intellectual light; so they go to all manner of lengths to avoid the discussion; which is once again perfectly illustrated above.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

... most of us are american by birth, we did not have to pass a litmus test for it.

UH OH! There it is... the old "I'm as AMERICAN AS ANYONE! I WAS BORN HERE!"

So to be an "American" to this member is little more than a concept which indicates where the womb from which she slid happened to be at the time of her birth.

WOO HOO! Well isn't THAT special?

SO for this member to be CERTAIN that SHE's an AMERICAN, she felt strongly that the concept be stripped to its bare assed minimum...

Anyone see a trend here?

Anyone picking up on the direction that leftism forces the culture to turn towards once that culture is infected? Are these leftists coming at us with the hard core reasoning which shows that leftism represents the essence of the principles of the US? Or are they coming at us, citing the rules of free speech...

"Free Speech" That is such a given, that it would be easy for someone to believe that the founders of the US were very tolerant of any speech... even that speech which undermined the security of the culture by espousing concepts which were antithetical the principles on which the US was founded... Ya know I don't think they were... We can look to article 1 of the US constitution and see that there is a very specific clause where speech itself, despite a distant and quite errant decision of the SCOTUS which determined otherwise, which adheres to an enemy in a time of war is treason... But I digress...

We should readily see that these people are liars... they're in this thread lamenting what they feel is a threat to their ability TO SPEAK where no such threat exists... there problem is not with someone preventing them from speaking, it is that someone is USING THEIR OWN SPEECH AGAINST THEM... THEY'RE UPSET THAT SOMEONE IS OPPOSSING THE SPEECH and doing so by simply using their own words to point out that they are espousing opinion and government policy which stands a direct odds with the principles on which the United States was founded... EVEN WHILE... these same people and the representatives in government plot to restrict, by government fiat, speech which is advanced on THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES... that opposes their point of view..., and this through the 'fairness doctrine' which in practice advances the diametric opposite of fairness... meaning that like this very position regarding 'what 'conservative OKA: American means... they have to deceitfully change the meaning of the words to use them... they have to minimize the concept to nearly that of MEANINGLESS.

But that is the nature of evil, to deceive..., isn't it?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Rush is nothing more then a oxycotin popping drug addict. He has no influence on politics, his listeners are not going there with an open mind. But rather to have their own neanderthal beliefs reaffirmed. The republican party has had its brand damaged by associating with this nut.

Well let's try this... I'm a Rush fan and my mind is wide open... So why don't you bring whatever position you feel is worthy of cosideration to the floor and we'll discuss it... and in os doing we will demonstrate how empty your mind is; which will serve to amplify the idiocy you just advanced above, wherein you condlude that Rush Limbaugh has no political influence.

But I will agree with you that the GOP brand is damaged; but your conclusion that such damage is a result of its association with Limbaugh is foolish beyond measure. The GOP brand was damaged where its members were elected by those who sent them to DC to oppose YOU and your idiocy and instead they went there and joined it.

The fact is had the GOP fielded an American and had they stood on conservative principles and NOT fell short and legislated as lightweight leftists, the Marxist Muslim Hussein Obama would be licking his wounds in Chi-town as yet another leftist bride's-maid, left at the alter of hope...

 

[Shogun]

PubliusInfinitu, is there a single thread on this forum where you do not get your ass handed to you after posting the most sublimely retarded shit? just checking.


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[Orange_Juice]

LOL, Rush Limbo is in fine form now. What type of low life idiots listen to this clown?

Right-wing media feeds its post-election anger - Los Angeles Times

You have to give Rush Limbaugh a perverse kind of credit. At least when he is demonizing Barack Obama, fabricating Obama policies, blaming Obama for single-handedly causing the recession and the stock market crash, he doesn't pretend to be fair.

...

"The Obama recession is in full swing, ladies and gentlemen," Limbaugh told his radio audience of 15 million to 20 million on Thursday. "Stocks are dying, which is a precursor of things to come. This is an Obama recession. Might turn into a depression."

Apparently the tanking of the real estate market, record losses in the auto industry, and massive failures in the banking and investment industry have very little to do with our problems. The economic system is collapsing, Rush wants us to know, because it anticipates the tax increases Obama has pledged on capital gains and for the highest income earners.

....

"They're going to take your 401(k), put it in the Social Security trust fund, whatever the hell that is," Limbaugh woofed. "Trust fund, my rear end."

A slight problem with Limbaugh's report: Obama and the Democrats have proposed no such thing.

The proposal, in fact, emanated from a single economist, one of many experts testifying to a congressional committee.

The president-elect has thus far shown as much interest in taking over your 401(k) as he has in moving the capital to Nairobi. (If you look hard, you might find that one somewhere out there in the blogosphere, too.)

 

[Article 15]

Pubilicious is Rush's buttboy ...

 

[Article 15]

LOL, Rush Limbo is in fine form now. What type of low life idiots listen to this clown?

Right-wing media feeds its post-election anger - Los Angeles Times

Water is wet.

The sky is blue.

Rush lies.

 

[Toro]

Does anyone see a definition of what "American" means to this member?

I surely do not... So wouldn't it be fair to say that this member has, by pure default, verfied the position which she has otherwise sought to … berate?


ROFLMNAO... once again it looks like we have yet another leftist desperately wanting to avoid the very labels which they've worked so damn hard to earn.

GO FIGURE!

I see that you are happily embracing the "conservatard" label.

Fringe wingnuts such as yourself said the same thing about FDR and MLK back in the day. There will always be extremist nutbars willing to define nationalism on their own narrow terms to rationalize their own pathologies of exclusion.

 

[Toro]

Well let's try this... I'm a Rush fan and my mind is wide open...

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!



Says the guy who is defining who and who is not an American.

Yeah, REAL open.

Priceless...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

PubliusInfinitu, is there a single thread on this forum where you do not get your ass handed to you after posting the most sublimely retarded shit? just checking.


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So the resident NMBLA advocate felt it necessary to prop up her comrades...

Well I'm touched; it's wonderful how the left is so quick to prop up their failures.

It's kinda like how Columbia University built a new section of their institution and named it after Mousollini; who they later claimed they had NEVER LIKED!; but not before the NY Times cut him lose... Hell to hear the left tell it today, they nevereven HEARD of the guy. Which was very similar to the notable US socialist sympathizers, such as Charles Limbaugh which were 'very impressed' with the NAZIs... But, again... so was the NY Times along with most other 'progressive' organs.

Yessir... the left is all about the loyalty... Loyalty on the same level as the TICK.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!



Says the guy who is defining who and who is not an American.

Yeah, REAL open.

Priceless...

It's odd that you seemed to be indicating that my position regarding Americans is incorrect, YET you completely avoided defining American as you understand it...

Now my thinking on this is that you needed to maintain as vague a profile on this as possible, because if you WERE TO DEFINE it... you'd have to define it to such a minimal degree that the concept "American" would be rendered roughly MEANINGLESS... You'd probably try to claim that being an American is a simple function of being born in the US... or perhaps you'd take the very common path amongst leftists and claim that to be an American all one needs to be is born in the AMERICAS... somewhere on the American continent.

But don't let me put words in your mouth sis... I hereby invite you to define "American" and to do so in such a way that it squares with your other positions which stand as antithetical to the principles on which America was founded.

(WARNING: HOLDING ONE'S BREATH WHILE WAITING ON A LEFTIST TO SUPPORT THEIR DRIVEL WILL RESULT IN ONE'S CERTAIN DEATH!)

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

House Democrats Contemplate Abolishing 401(k) Tax Breaks | workforce.com

Powerful House Democrats are eyeing proposals to overhaul the nation’s $3 trillion 401(k) system, including the elimination of most of the $80 billion in annual tax breaks that 401(k) investors receive.

House Education and Labor Committee Chairman George Miller, D-California, and Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Washington, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Income Security and Family Support, are looking at redirecting those tax breaks to a new system of guaranteed retirement accounts to which all workers would be obliged to contribute.

. . .all workers would receive a $600 annual inflation-adjusted subsidy from the U.S. government but would be required to invest 5 percent of their pay into a guaranteed retirement account administered by the Social Security Administration.

But WAIT! You don't earn the above the magical, albeit arbitrary $250K; you and your spouse only earn a paltry $150,000. The plan the DEMOCRAT SENATE IS LEANING TOWARDS, will require you to put away $7,500 of your hard-earned salary and for being such a good comrade, you will receive a mind bending $600 matching contribution from the federal government.

WHAT? You say that your now getting $7500 in matching employer conntributions for every $7500 you put into your 401K? Stop being such a greedy asshole...

This is the only THE BEGINNING of the sort of thing we are going to see from thse people... You people have elected a Democrat majority, giving them control in the House, the Senate, and the Presidency.

Now Limbaugh was clearly takenout of context, which is typical of the LA Times and the rest of the subversive Comrade media... I listened to that program and he reported exactly what had happened, who the players were and that NONE OF THOSE WORKING THIS PROBLEM... (noted above) have a voting record anyhwere NEAR that of Hussein Obama.

The rest of the examples are similarly corrupt / inaccurate. Let's not forget that Hussein is a BIG FAN of all of the flaccid little socialists taking over South America and Argentina just did the same thing... and these 'progressives' will go at it from the same deceitful direction... they'll claim that it is necessary to protect US retirement funds from unpredictable market forces. When in truth, they need the money to advance more social entitlement failures... not the least of which is funding current SS payouts.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122477680834462659.html

 

[Toro]

It's odd that you seemed to be indicating that my position regarding Americans is incorrect, YET you completely avoided defining American as you understand it...

Now my thinking on this is that you needed to maintain as vague a profile on this as possible, because if you WERE TO DEFINE it... you'd have to define it to such a minimal degree that the concept "American" would be rendered roughly MEANINGLESS... You'd probably try to claim that being an American is a simple function of being born in the US... or perhaps you'd take the very common path amongst leftists and claim that to be an American all one needs to be is born in the AMERICAS... somewhere on the American continent.

But don't let me put words in your mouth sis... I hereby invite you to define "American" and to do so in such a way that it squares with your other positions which stand as antithetical to the principles on which America was founded.

(WARNING: HOLDING ONE'S BREATH WHILE WAITING ON A LEFTIST TO SUPPORT THEIR DRIVEL WILL RESULT IN ONE'S CERTAIN DEATH!)

When I think of America, I think of freedom and liberty. I think of America as a grand experiment of noble ideas, where all people are created equal, where people are not persecuted for their beliefs, where people can make themselves into anything they want, where anything is possible. America is not defined by blood. It is not defined by religion. It is not defined by class. Ideally, blood, religion and class are irrelevant. In America, your fate is not pre-ordained at birth, as it is in many countries. In America, anyone can become President. In America, anyone can become rich. In America, anyone can rise to any status in life.

In America, thought is not a crime. You are not defined by how you think. Defining people by how they think is a throwback to the 17th century at best, and in league with tyrants and dictators at worst.

America is an inspiration to many around the world. It was the Statue of Liberty they raised in Tiananmen Square when the Chinese were protesting for more freedom.

America is not perfect. America has not always lived up to the ideals for which it stands. But you ask me what America stands for? America stands for freedom and liberty. The American ideals are the most noble in the world.

I have traveled extensively and have lived in two other countries. I can live anywhere I want in the world. I choose to live here. I love this country.

 

[elvis]

Isn't it obvious?

No. on what grounds could we impeach Obama/

 

[Old Rocks]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Rocks
LOL! Here we go again, if you don't agree with the wingnut theories of people like Publius, you are not truly American. LOL! What a bunch of losers!

Another 'true Conservative heard from and yet another opportunity to define 'true conservatism' LOST...

But for a VERY GOOD REASON... It is better to have people doubt your intellectual means than to post sufficient evidence to solidify the certainty that your intellectual means is non-existant.

What we see coming from this member is the pleading that everything is relative, all opinions are equal and just because someone disagrees that doesn't mean they're not an American...


First of all, I am not a conservative, but a blue collar Liberal. Since you insist on calling me a Marxist, do you mind if I call you a Nazi? I thought not. Second, I have a nice little DD214 that says honorable. As do many Americans, both liberal and conservative. But I will not call those honorable men and women other than American because they disagree with me politically. Anyone that does that simply does not understand the concept of being American.