Libs Try Tear Jerker Approach on Border...Why am I I’m Supposed to Care

[Rustic]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

You're not. You're a Deplorable. The only thing Deplorables care about are themselves...

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here... So shut the **** up

 

[Dr Grump]

Illegal aliens have no right to be here... So shut the **** up

Never said otherwise, ijit.

 

[BWK]

Stupid comparison dipshit

No, that comparison is VERY relevant. Especially the vilifying of the "other". In Germany it was the Jews. For Trump, it's the Central Americans, blacks, latinos, Muslims. Really, anyone who isn't white, and nominally Christian. Although I think that Trump loves the fundamentalists. Mainstream protestants, not so much. But the Fundies are easily manipulated, and their so-called ministers direct their flocks to vote for Trump.

Even as you denounce and accuse vilification of the "other", you vilify some other(s). Think before you ______, also applies when ya let your fingers to the walking to do the talking.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.

Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts
This week, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to count self-identified illegal immigrants in the 2020 census. Cities worry adding the citizenship question could undercount 6.5 million people. Their argument, however, isn't just about political power but billions of dollars in federal funds states expect.

The case underscores what experts say is a growing cost to taxpayers from the surge of Central American families and unaccompanied minors.


"We're talking about billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits over the next few years," said Dan Stein, director of the right-leaning think tank, Federation for American Immigration Reform. "The payout for the taxpayer is enormous and income to the Treasury is miniscule."

A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts

At this rate, how can we survive as a nation if we continue to let this happen?

I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

There is no freedom when you have the federal government running all business.

Where in the constitution does it say separation of church and state? Times up… Because it doesn’t you ******* *****. Lol

“Joe osteen” does not represent Christians you ******* whore.

The collective never has the best interest of the individual in mind… In fact they have the opposite.

Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year, And tax money never goes to where supposed to go... End of story

6++++++++3l.............................,'?T%RRRRR

Stupid comparison dipshit

No, that comparison is VERY relevant. Especially the vilifying of the "other". In Germany it was the Jews. For Trump, it's the Central Americans, blacks, latinos, Muslims. Really, anyone who isn't white, and nominally Christian. Although I think that Trump loves the fundamentalists. Mainstream protestants, not so much. But the Fundies are easily manipulated, and their so-called ministers direct their flocks to vote for Trump.

Even as you denounce and accuse vilification of the "other", you vilify some other(s). Think before you ______, also applies when ya let your fingers to the walking to do the talking.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.

Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts
This week, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to count self-identified illegal immigrants in the 2020 census. Cities worry adding the citizenship question could undercount 6.5 million people. Their argument, however, isn't just about political power but billions of dollars in federal funds states expect.

The case underscores what experts say is a growing cost to taxpayers from the surge of Central American families and unaccompanied minors.


"We're talking about billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits over the next few years," said Dan Stein, director of the right-leaning think tank, Federation for American Immigration Reform. "The payout for the taxpayer is enormous and income to the Treasury is miniscule."

A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts

At this rate, how can we survive as a nation if we continue to let this happen?

I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

There is no freedom when you have the federal government running all business.

Where in the constitution does it say separation of church and state? Times up… Because it doesn’t you ******* *****. Lol

“Joe osteen” does not represent Christians you ******* whore.

The collective never has the best interest of the individual in mind… In fact they have the opposite.

Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year, And tax money never goes to where supposed to go... End of story

Unlike Russia, the federal government regulates business to protect consumers against crooks, thieves, and dangerous or faulty products. I’m sorry but dishonest Russian business tactics aren’t allowed.

Calling me names. My my! I must have hit a nerve! Rustic can’t stand the idea that the only way a Russian can win is by cheating.

Even as you denounce and accuse vilification of the "other", you vilify some other(s). Think before you ______, also applies when ya let your fingers to the walking to do the talking.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.

Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts
This week, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to count self-identified illegal immigrants in the 2020 census. Cities worry adding the citizenship question could undercount 6.5 million people. Their argument, however, isn't just about political power but billions of dollars in federal funds states expect.

The case underscores what experts say is a growing cost to taxpayers from the surge of Central American families and unaccompanied minors.


"We're talking about billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits over the next few years," said Dan Stein, director of the right-leaning think tank, Federation for American Immigration Reform. "The payout for the taxpayer is enormous and income to the Treasury is miniscule."

A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts

At this rate, how can we survive as a nation if we continue to let this happen?

I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

"Illegal immigration costs our nation $275 billion a year."

Then stop illegally invading them.

That’s like blaming the store for the shoplifter…all progressives are fucked in the head

You're fucked in the head. You say you live in the Badlands. That's about as far from the Southerm Border as you can get. In fact, South Dakota has one of the lowest immigrant populations in the USA. So what in the actual **** do you know about illegal immigration in the United States?

He knows shit and he's a coward, because he has no interest in understanding the cause of this problem. Just to hate those who are the victims and to scapegoat them as the problem. They are no more the problem than he is a caring human being.

 

[BWK]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

You're not. You're a Deplorable. The only thing Deplorables care about are themselves...

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here... So shut the **** up

They have more right to be here than we have of being in theirs illegally. At least the illegals here didn't take over our governments and steal our resources like we did in theirs. Hell, they didn't even steal our jobs. That's another big fat lie by the Right.

 

[Rustic]

No, that comparison is VERY relevant. Especially the vilifying of the "other". In Germany it was the Jews. For Trump, it's the Central Americans, blacks, latinos, Muslims. Really, anyone who isn't white, and nominally Christian. Although I think that Trump loves the fundamentalists. Mainstream protestants, not so much. But the Fundies are easily manipulated, and their so-called ministers direct their flocks to vote for Trump.

Even as you denounce and accuse vilification of the "other", you vilify some other(s). Think before you ______, also applies when ya let your fingers to the walking to do the talking.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.

Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts
This week, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to count self-identified illegal immigrants in the 2020 census. Cities worry adding the citizenship question could undercount 6.5 million people. Their argument, however, isn't just about political power but billions of dollars in federal funds states expect.

The case underscores what experts say is a growing cost to taxpayers from the surge of Central American families and unaccompanied minors.


"We're talking about billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits over the next few years," said Dan Stein, director of the right-leaning think tank, Federation for American Immigration Reform. "The payout for the taxpayer is enormous and income to the Treasury is miniscule."

A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts

At this rate, how can we survive as a nation if we continue to let this happen?

I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

There is no freedom when you have the federal government running all business.

Where in the constitution does it say separation of church and state? Times up… Because it doesn’t you ******* *****. Lol

“Joe osteen” does not represent Christians you ******* whore.

The collective never has the best interest of the individual in mind… In fact they have the opposite.

Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year, And tax money never goes to where supposed to go... End of story

6++++++++3l.............................,'?T%RRRRR

No, that comparison is VERY relevant. Especially the vilifying of the "other". In Germany it was the Jews. For Trump, it's the Central Americans, blacks, latinos, Muslims. Really, anyone who isn't white, and nominally Christian. Although I think that Trump loves the fundamentalists. Mainstream protestants, not so much. But the Fundies are easily manipulated, and their so-called ministers direct their flocks to vote for Trump.

Even as you denounce and accuse vilification of the "other", you vilify some other(s). Think before you ______, also applies when ya let your fingers to the walking to do the talking.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.

Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts
This week, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to count self-identified illegal immigrants in the 2020 census. Cities worry adding the citizenship question could undercount 6.5 million people. Their argument, however, isn't just about political power but billions of dollars in federal funds states expect.

The case underscores what experts say is a growing cost to taxpayers from the surge of Central American families and unaccompanied minors.


"We're talking about billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits over the next few years," said Dan Stein, director of the right-leaning think tank, Federation for American Immigration Reform. "The payout for the taxpayer is enormous and income to the Treasury is miniscule."

A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts

At this rate, how can we survive as a nation if we continue to let this happen?

I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

There is no freedom when you have the federal government running all business.

Where in the constitution does it say separation of church and state? Times up… Because it doesn’t you ******* *****. Lol

“Joe osteen” does not represent Christians you ******* whore.

The collective never has the best interest of the individual in mind… In fact they have the opposite.

Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year, And tax money never goes to where supposed to go... End of story

Unlike Russia, the federal government regulates business to protect consumers against crooks, thieves, and dangerous or faulty products. I’m sorry but dishonest Russian business tactics aren’t allowed.

Calling me names. My my! I must have hit a nerve! Rustic can’t stand the idea that the only way a Russian can win is by cheating.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.
I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

"Illegal immigration costs our nation $275 billion a year."

Then stop illegally invading them.

That’s like blaming the store for the shoplifter…all progressives are fucked in the head

You're fucked in the head. You say you live in the Badlands. That's about as far from the Southerm Border as you can get. In fact, South Dakota has one of the lowest immigrant populations in the USA. So what in the actual **** do you know about illegal immigration in the United States?

He knows shit and he's a coward, because he has no interest in understanding the cause of this problem. Just to hate those who are the victims and to scapegoat them as the problem. They are no more the problem than he is a caring human being.

Lol
No one is forcing those fuckers to come here, they know it’s illegal to come here but the motherfuckers do it anyways.

They need to stay in the shit hole they came from

 

[Rustic]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

You're not. You're a Deplorable. The only thing Deplorables care about are themselves...

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here... So shut the **** up

They have more right to be here than we have of being in theirs illegally. At least the illegals here didn't take over our governments and steal our resources like we did in theirs. Hell, they didn't even steal our jobs. That's another big fat lie by the Right.

Lol
you watch too many Hollywood movies made by child molesting Hollywood types

 

[leftwinger]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

You're not. You're a Deplorable. The only thing Deplorables care about are themselves...

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here... So shut the **** up

They have more right to be here than we have of being in theirs illegally. At least the illegals here didn't take over our governments and steal our resources like we did in theirs. Hell, they didn't even steal our jobs. That's another big fat lie by the Right.

Tell us more about the CIA 150 years ago screwed up Guatemala and "stole all the recources" so this iborder siege is Americas' fault.

Note: A Caveman once took my great great grandfathers House and cattle so I am owed my land back in Memphis by the river.

 

[Bush92]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

Two things are true at once:

1. the death of this husband and daughter is a tragedy and a heartbreak

2. Those deaths still don't mean we should open our borders to legions of people trying to make it across illegally...or what they did was wise

Liberals think the first is true but not the second, for the most part. Conservatives think the second is true but they should dismiss the first.

No, I think both can be true at the same time.

We don’t have open borders asshole.

Sure we do. Democratic Party wants it, they need a new victim class. Border security is a joke. Next terrorist attack may very well come across our southern border and liberals will have blood on their hands.

 

[BWK]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

You're not. You're a Deplorable. The only thing Deplorables care about are themselves...

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here... So shut the **** up

They have more right to be here than we have of being in theirs illegally. At least the illegals here didn't take over our governments and steal our resources like we did in theirs. Hell, they didn't even steal our jobs. That's another big fat lie by the Right.

Tell us more about the CIA 150 years ago screwed up Guatemala and "stole all the recources" so this iborder siege is Americas' fault.

Note: A Caveman once took my great great grandfathers House and cattle so I am owed my land back in Memphis by the river.

Really? Really? That's the pitiful argument you show up with? Dude, your argument is retarded. Shame on you for making a fool of yourself. Man, get out of here with that stupid shit.

 

[BWK]

Even as you denounce and accuse vilification of the "other", you vilify some other(s). Think before you ______, also applies when ya let your fingers to the walking to do the talking.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.

Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts
This week, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to count self-identified illegal immigrants in the 2020 census. Cities worry adding the citizenship question could undercount 6.5 million people. Their argument, however, isn't just about political power but billions of dollars in federal funds states expect.

The case underscores what experts say is a growing cost to taxpayers from the surge of Central American families and unaccompanied minors.


"We're talking about billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits over the next few years," said Dan Stein, director of the right-leaning think tank, Federation for American Immigration Reform. "The payout for the taxpayer is enormous and income to the Treasury is miniscule."

A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts

At this rate, how can we survive as a nation if we continue to let this happen?

I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

There is no freedom when you have the federal government running all business.

Where in the constitution does it say separation of church and state? Times up… Because it doesn’t you ******* *****. Lol

“Joe osteen” does not represent Christians you ******* whore.

The collective never has the best interest of the individual in mind… In fact they have the opposite.

Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year, And tax money never goes to where supposed to go... End of story

6++++++++3l.............................,'?T%RRRRR

Even as you denounce and accuse vilification of the "other", you vilify some other(s). Think before you ______, also applies when ya let your fingers to the walking to do the talking.

I don't recall every saying that fundamentalists aren't free to live their own best lives. I'm saying they should keep their hate fueled religion and agenda to themselves, and the rest of us should not have their biases and bigotry inflicted on us. If you don't want to serve some classes of people, don't open a public business. Otherwise, you serve the people who come through the door.

Christian fundamentalists have a LOT to answer for. Separation of church and state means that ministers and church leadership are not supposed to be preaching politics from the pulpit. That is why churches don't pay taxes. It's an acknowledgement of their benefit to the community in providing charity and comfort for the poor and the struggling. Instead, you have fundy churches who locked their doors against the poor in their communities in times of crisis - like Joe Osteen in Houston.

Franklin Graham and other ministers who instruct their adherents to vote for one party or the others should have their non-profit status stripped.

While claiminig to be siding with Christians, Trump has repeatedly sided with extreme radical positions held by fundamentalists in regard to employee health care insurance, and their right to bigotted discrimination. Trump is prepared to violate EVERYONE'S RIGHTS, to allowed fundamentalists to abuse and discriminate against others, in violation of the constitutional rights of all citizens to be free of hate and discrimination.

Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts
This week, the U.S. Supreme Court considers whether to count self-identified illegal immigrants in the 2020 census. Cities worry adding the citizenship question could undercount 6.5 million people. Their argument, however, isn't just about political power but billions of dollars in federal funds states expect.

The case underscores what experts say is a growing cost to taxpayers from the surge of Central American families and unaccompanied minors.


"We're talking about billions of dollars in taxpayer benefits over the next few years," said Dan Stein, director of the right-leaning think tank, Federation for American Immigration Reform. "The payout for the taxpayer is enormous and income to the Treasury is miniscule."

A FAIR study in 2017 found illegal immigrants are a net consumer of taxpayer benefits worth more than $100 billion a year, not including the cost of enforcing the border.

While federal benefits are supposed to be off limits, in practice many are not. More than 25,000 undocumented workers receive subsidized housing, according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Children receive free education and most qualify for English lessons and free school breakfast and lunch.Most illegal immigrants in US receive government benefits, costing taxpayers billions: experts

At this rate, how can we survive as a nation if we continue to let this happen?

I think the important thing to note is that the writer is extremely biased and is arguing against immigration. He says NOTHING about the taxes that illegals pay. All employees pay a 15% withholding tax on their paychecks, even though they don't qualify for SS or earned income credits, so all of the deductions from their paychecks go straight into government coffers.

Try these for more balanced look:

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

Immigrants as Economic Contributors: Immigrant Tax Contributions and Spending Power - National Immigration Forum

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Over $11 Billion to Our Economy Each Year

There is no freedom when you have the federal government running all business.

Where in the constitution does it say separation of church and state? Times up… Because it doesn’t you ******* *****. Lol

“Joe osteen” does not represent Christians you ******* whore.

The collective never has the best interest of the individual in mind… In fact they have the opposite.

Illegal aliens costs this country billions of dollars every year, And tax money never goes to where supposed to go... End of story

Unlike Russia, the federal government regulates business to protect consumers against crooks, thieves, and dangerous or faulty products. I’m sorry but dishonest Russian business tactics aren’t allowed.

Calling me names. My my! I must have hit a nerve! Rustic can’t stand the idea that the only way a Russian can win is by cheating.

"Illegal immigration costs our nation $275 billion a year."

Then stop illegally invading them.

That’s like blaming the store for the shoplifter…all progressives are fucked in the head

You're fucked in the head. You say you live in the Badlands. That's about as far from the Southerm Border as you can get. In fact, South Dakota has one of the lowest immigrant populations in the USA. So what in the actual **** do you know about illegal immigration in the United States?

He knows shit and he's a coward, because he has no interest in understanding the cause of this problem. Just to hate those who are the victims and to scapegoat them as the problem. They are no more the problem than he is a caring human being.

Lol
No one is forcing those fuckers to come here, they know it’s illegal to come here but the motherfuckers do it anyways.

They need to stay in the shit hole they came from

Your arguments wouldn't pass for a second grade debate forum. You have nothing intelligent to offer.

 

[BWK]

When the Right wing in this country cheer this on, you know that the Devil has finally won. Don Lemon was right. "Get on your knees tonight."Cuomo and Lemon discuss border photo of dead man and daughter - CNN Video

 

[Toronado3800]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

Only if you are kinder, gentler or christian.

I wouldn't expect us sociopaths who aren't going to get by St Peter to care.

 

[Dragonlady]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

Two things are true at once:

1. the death of this husband and daughter is a tragedy and a heartbreak

2. Those deaths still don't mean we should open our borders to legions of people trying to make it across illegally...or what they did was wise

Liberals think the first is true but not the second, for the most part. Conservatives think the second is true but they should dismiss the first.

No, I think both can be true at the same time.

Disagree on first point. I could care less.

Well then you've either killed part of your humanity or some part of it never activated. Simple as that.

Combat changes your world view. People are just numbers. Nothing more than that. Protecting our national sovereignty and homeland security are things of value.

Without people, you have no nation, no sovereignty, and your security is irrelevant. A nation is, first and foremost, people.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

Because you're a human being and as such should have the ability to emphasize with tragedy? As to any crime deserves death. Even the Spanish inquisition didn't think so. Whatever tough. If you feel comfortable being an unmitigated ogre. Who am I to stop you.

Emphasize?

Dumbass!

 

[forkup]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

Because you're a human being and as such should have the ability to emphasize with tragedy? As to any crime deserves death. Even the Spanish inquisition didn't think so. Whatever tough. If you feel comfortable being an unmitigated ogre. Who am I to stop you.

Emphasize?

Dumbass!

LOL just noticed,point taken. My autocorrect function had some fun.

 

[harmonica]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

Liberals said their wasn't a humanitarian crisis on the border. President Trump has been trying to fix this without any help from Democrats. smh

the dumbass Dems have been fighting tooth and nail to LET illegals/etc in

And the the US fought tooth and nail, and won the invasions into these countries with the exception of Venezuela. And they are working on that one now.

won invasions-----???!!!!!!!???
the brown people and the black people can't get anything done
the yellow people and the whites are the ones who get it done/better living/etc
poverty/sanitation/clean water/starvation/etc--I can provide proof of all these

You are not just a racist, but an imperialist who wants to rid the world of the majority of the people and let them sink to the bottom of the ocean.

By the way, did you know that the Blue parts on the maps are the biggest polluters? How is that a good thing?The U.S. Is the Biggest Carbon Polluter in History. It Just Walked Away From the Paris Climate Deal.

stating facts is not racism ...
ahahhahahahahahahah
hahahahahahah---polluters??? wow--changed the subject a little there
I don't care how much pollution there is

 

[Bush92]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

Two things are true at once:

1. the death of this husband and daughter is a tragedy and a heartbreak

2. Those deaths still don't mean we should open our borders to legions of people trying to make it across illegally...or what they did was wise

Liberals think the first is true but not the second, for the most part. Conservatives think the second is true but they should dismiss the first.

No, I think both can be true at the same time.

Disagree on first point. I could care less.

Well then you've either killed part of your humanity or some part of it never activated. Simple as that.

Combat changes your world view. People are just numbers. Nothing more than that. Protecting our national sovereignty and homeland security are things of value.

Without people, you have no nation, no sovereignty, and your security is irrelevant. A nation is, first and foremost, people.

People with a national border and rule of law.

 

[harmonica]

When the Right wing in this country cheer this on, you know that the Devil has finally won. Don Lemon was right. "Get on your knees tonight."Cuomo and Lemon discuss border photo of dead man and daughter - CNN Video

cheer cheer
hahahahahahahahahahah
you also are a shallow thinker
Don Lemon is a racist white hater

 

[Bush92]

When the Right wing in this country cheer this on, you know that the Devil has finally won. Don Lemon was right. "Get on your knees tonight."Cuomo and Lemon discuss border photo of dead man and daughter - CNN Video

Right wing is not “cheering “ this, just pointing out the fact that Americans should not feel guilt or obligation over a father that chose to break the law and put his family at risk.

 

[harmonica]

He and his family were breaking the law. **** them.
Rio Grande river drowning: Woman watched her husband and daughter die - CNNPolitics

You're not. You're a Deplorable. The only thing Deplorables care about are themselves...

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here... So shut the **** up

They have more right to be here than we have of being in theirs illegally. At least the illegals here didn't take over our governments and steal our resources like we did in theirs. Hell, they didn't even steal our jobs. That's another big fat lie by the Right.

learn some history before spewing dumbshit
it's 2019 buddy