#LetThemDie: ‘Heartless’ Trump Blasted For Meals On Wheels Cuts

[JoeMoma]

If Libtards did not spend 100 Billion a Year on illegals we wouldn't have to be making cuts like this to balance the budget.
Libtard Charities can take over if they care so much about this issue.
How much did the OP donate to Meals on Wheels?

I'll give you the answer. It is the same answer for every DemNazi in here.

ZERO

What is a libtard charity? I've never heard of such a thing. Libturds are all about themselves

It's called the US government! And instead of donating their own money, they donate your money!

 

[Eaglewings]

"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey

And Conservatives want to say **** the elderly, if they can't take care of themselves they are just a leach on society...

The problem is there is a thin line between those who can't take care of themselves and those who can and opt to take advantage of the system. Democrats welcome those who abuse the system because their goal is to create as many government dependents as they can. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters.

No, you only see those that abuse the system because that's what you are looking for. That causes you to turn a blind eye to all the people that REALLY need the system. I've gotten burned a couple of times helping people that I later found out didn't really need it... but I'm not going to stop helping others because of it. That's a cynical approach and sadly a very Conservative one. That attitude is part of the reason I quit being a Republican. There is a time and place to look for cracks in the paint, but one of those times is not when an entire house is falling down.

Did you ever think that because there are so many abusing our safety nets, that people have a right to be cynical?

You're not going to find many Republicans that don't want to help the truly needy; people that have conducted themselves to the best of their abilities and still failed; people that lived responsibly and still ended up with the short end of the stick.

We live in a country where everybody is a victim of something, and that is promoted by the Democrat party. Look at this thread alone. Trump is not eliminating Meals on Wheels, he is cutting funds for a multitude of programs--it's just meals on wheels happens to be one of the programs under this umbrella. Even the OP made a slight mention of this program.

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Those lazy ass people ruin it for the ones who really need it..

When I was putting myself through school I did some home healthcare with mainly seniors...

I will never forget this one old disabled man who is a Vet and fought for our country during the Vietnam war. He could not even get out of bed without help.

His trailer was a shack, and he had zero food.. His insurance only covered a few days of visiting home healthcare..

I took my own money and made him large meals and froze them for him..

So excuse me but WTF...is wrong with these rich ass congress taking away a meal that might be the only thing they eat all day..

These people are interviewed before getting the service..

Agreeing with this is just plan horrid and unbelievable

WTF is wrong with people..

This makes me Burning Mad.. not at you Ray...I agree with you.

 

[Lewdog]

I honestly don't understand how any "true" Christian could support Trump's immoral budget.

Why? Because so many Christians only want to help people that have the same beliefs as them. They don't want to help just anyone in need... they only want to help fellow Christians in need.

 

[Lewdog]

The problem is there is a thin line between those who can't take care of themselves and those who can and opt to take advantage of the system. Democrats welcome those who abuse the system because their goal is to create as many government dependents as they can. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters.

No, you only see those that abuse the system because that's what you are looking for. That causes you to turn a blind eye to all the people that REALLY need the system. I've gotten burned a couple of times helping people that I later found out didn't really need it... but I'm not going to stop helping others because of it. That's a cynical approach and sadly a very Conservative one. That attitude is part of the reason I quit being a Republican. There is a time and place to look for cracks in the paint, but one of those times is not when an entire house is falling down.

Did you ever think that because there are so many abusing our safety nets, that people have a right to be cynical?

You're not going to find many Republicans that don't want to help the truly needy; people that have conducted themselves to the best of their abilities and still failed; people that lived responsibly and still ended up with the short end of the stick.

We live in a country where everybody is a victim of something, and that is promoted by the Democrat party. Look at this thread alone. Trump is not eliminating Meals on Wheels, he is cutting funds for a multitude of programs--it's just meals on wheels happens to be one of the programs under this umbrella. Even the OP made a slight mention of this program.

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Those lazy ass people ruin it for the ones who really need it..

When I was putting myself through school I did some home healthcare with mainly seniors...

I will never forget this one old disabled man who is a Vet and fought for our country during the Vietnam war. He could not even get out of bed without help.

His trailer was a shack, and he had zero food.. His insurance only covered a few days of visiting home healthcare..

I took my own money and made him large meals and froze them for him..

So excuse me but WTF...is wrong with these rich ass congress taking away a meal that might be the only thing they eat all day..

These people are interviewed before getting the service..

Agreeing with this is just plan horrid and unbelievable

WTF is wrong with people..

This makes me Burning Mad.. not at you Ray...I agree with you.

That's just it, Meals on Wheels is not just a FREE service... it's a sliding pay scale service based on what people can afford to pay.

 

[Lakhota]

The national debt only matters to Republicans when you are talking about welfare programs... were any of them saying anything about the National debt when Trump talked about increasing the defense budget?

The US Constitution charges our leaders to defend this country. It does not charge our leaders to support people that don't want to work, or people that won't get better jobs because they can't quit smoking pot to get a better job.

Our government was not designed to be a conductor of a welfare state.

Au contraire...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

America's Misunderstood Mission: Promoting the general Welfare

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The problem is there is a thin line between those who can't take care of themselves and those who can and opt to take advantage of the system. Democrats welcome those who abuse the system because their goal is to create as many government dependents as they can. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters.

No, you only see those that abuse the system because that's what you are looking for. That causes you to turn a blind eye to all the people that REALLY need the system. I've gotten burned a couple of times helping people that I later found out didn't really need it... but I'm not going to stop helping others because of it. That's a cynical approach and sadly a very Conservative one. That attitude is part of the reason I quit being a Republican. There is a time and place to look for cracks in the paint, but one of those times is not when an entire house is falling down.

Did you ever think that because there are so many abusing our safety nets, that people have a right to be cynical?

You're not going to find many Republicans that don't want to help the truly needy; people that have conducted themselves to the best of their abilities and still failed; people that lived responsibly and still ended up with the short end of the stick.

We live in a country where everybody is a victim of something, and that is promoted by the Democrat party. Look at this thread alone. Trump is not eliminating Meals on Wheels, he is cutting funds for a multitude of programs--it's just meals on wheels happens to be one of the programs under this umbrella. Even the OP made a slight mention of this program.

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Again... you see that because that's ALL YOU LOOK FOR. How many times do you go around looking for families getting help that need it? What do you expect people that get food stamps and HUD to do? Send their wives over to suck your dick or give you a hand job? Send every tax payer a Christmas card? Wait... if you caught them buying a Christmas card with cash but paying for their food with a SNAP card you would say they don't deserve or need food stamps... so they couldn't do that could they?

My grandmother grew up in a shitty poor ass county in Kentucky. at 14 she hitchhiked to Indianapolis where she lied about her age to get a job in a factory. She's outlived two husbands, three children...and despite both her husbands being veterans, she has to live off of around $600 a month Social Security. And your ******* Orange clown of a joke President wants to cut her Social Security benefits, cut her Medicare... and now cut other programs that helps her. And there are millions of others like her. So no, she isn't ******* taking advantage of your ******* safety net programs... and she doesn't deserve to give you one ******* thank you for anything she gets. The fact that you think everyone OWES you something is silly... you need to get over yourself.

What utter BS. What do I expect people on food stamps and HUD to do? At the very least, STF quiet while I'm trying to sleep on the weekdays. Better yet, move to the inner-city where many people stay up at night making noise. In spite of their noise in the middle of the night, my tenant nicely asked them to turn off their headlights so it doesn't shine through their bedroom window while they're trying to go to sleep. Think that request was met with any responsible action? They don't GAF because government put them here and they feel they have the right to live anyway they desire.

I don't just see food stamp people buying Christmas cards. I see them buying cigarettes, alcohol, flowers, dog food, cat food, cat litter, perfume, all sorts of non-essential things. So while they are feeding their animals, we taxpayers are feeding them, and you don't see anything wrong with that.

I spent ten years delivering and repairing home medical equipment. In that ten years, I've been in hundreds if not thousands of low income homes. I know how they live. I see how they scam the system. So don't tell me about what I'm looking for. I didn't have to look for it, it was right there in front of me.

 

[Lakhota]

I honestly don't understand how any "true" Christian could support Trump's immoral budget.

Why? Because so many Christians only want to help people that have the same beliefs as them. They don't want to help just anyone in need... they only want to help fellow Christians in need.

They are not "true" Christians - they are "false" Christians.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The national debt only matters to Republicans when you are talking about welfare programs... were any of them saying anything about the National debt when Trump talked about increasing the defense budget?

The US Constitution charges our leaders to defend this country. It does not charge our leaders to support people that don't want to work, or people that won't get better jobs because they can't quit smoking pot to get a better job.

Our government was not designed to be a conductor of a welfare state.

Au contraire...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

America's Misunderstood Mission: Promoting the general Welfare

"Promote the general welfare"does not mean fund the general welfare.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

 

[Lewdog]

No, you only see those that abuse the system because that's what you are looking for. That causes you to turn a blind eye to all the people that REALLY need the system. I've gotten burned a couple of times helping people that I later found out didn't really need it... but I'm not going to stop helping others because of it. That's a cynical approach and sadly a very Conservative one. That attitude is part of the reason I quit being a Republican. There is a time and place to look for cracks in the paint, but one of those times is not when an entire house is falling down.

Did you ever think that because there are so many abusing our safety nets, that people have a right to be cynical?

You're not going to find many Republicans that don't want to help the truly needy; people that have conducted themselves to the best of their abilities and still failed; people that lived responsibly and still ended up with the short end of the stick.

We live in a country where everybody is a victim of something, and that is promoted by the Democrat party. Look at this thread alone. Trump is not eliminating Meals on Wheels, he is cutting funds for a multitude of programs--it's just meals on wheels happens to be one of the programs under this umbrella. Even the OP made a slight mention of this program.

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Again... you see that because that's ALL YOU LOOK FOR. How many times do you go around looking for families getting help that need it? What do you expect people that get food stamps and HUD to do? Send their wives over to suck your dick or give you a hand job? Send every tax payer a Christmas card? Wait... if you caught them buying a Christmas card with cash but paying for their food with a SNAP card you would say they don't deserve or need food stamps... so they couldn't do that could they?

My grandmother grew up in a shitty poor ass county in Kentucky. at 14 she hitchhiked to Indianapolis where she lied about her age to get a job in a factory. She's outlived two husbands, three children...and despite both her husbands being veterans, she has to live off of around $600 a month Social Security. And your ******* Orange clown of a joke President wants to cut her Social Security benefits, cut her Medicare... and now cut other programs that helps her. And there are millions of others like her. So no, she isn't ******* taking advantage of your ******* safety net programs... and she doesn't deserve to give you one ******* thank you for anything she gets. The fact that you think everyone OWES you something is silly... you need to get over yourself.

What utter BS. What do I expect people on food stamps and HUD to do? At the very least, STF quiet while I'm trying to sleep on the weekdays. Better yet, move to the inner-city where many people stay up at night making noise. In spite of their noise in the middle of the night, my tenant nicely asked them to turn off their headlights so it doesn't shine through their bedroom window while they're trying to go to sleep. Think that request was met with any responsible action? They don't GAF because government put them here and they feel they have the right to live anyway they desire.

I don't just see food stamp people buying Christmas cards. I see them buying cigarettes, alcohol, flowers, dog food, cat food, cat litter, perfume, all sorts of non-essential things. So while they are feeding their animals, we taxpayers are feeding them, and you don't see anything wrong with that.

I spent ten years delivering and repairing home medical equipment. In that ten years, I've been in hundreds if not thousands of low income homes. I know how they live. I see how they scam the system. So don't tell me about what I'm looking for. I didn't have to look for it, it was right there in front of me.

As I said... and you will never own up to, you LOOK for people that you THINK are scamming the system. You ignore actual statistics that say you are wrong. In data research you are what they call a biased observer. And your bias is what causes you to have a paranoia in every person you see.

I'm sorry, but your comment about poor people on HUD should move to the inner city proves my point.

 

[Eaglewings]

No, you only see those that abuse the system because that's what you are looking for. That causes you to turn a blind eye to all the people that REALLY need the system. I've gotten burned a couple of times helping people that I later found out didn't really need it... but I'm not going to stop helping others because of it. That's a cynical approach and sadly a very Conservative one. That attitude is part of the reason I quit being a Republican. There is a time and place to look for cracks in the paint, but one of those times is not when an entire house is falling down.

Did you ever think that because there are so many abusing our safety nets, that people have a right to be cynical?

You're not going to find many Republicans that don't want to help the truly needy; people that have conducted themselves to the best of their abilities and still failed; people that lived responsibly and still ended up with the short end of the stick.

We live in a country where everybody is a victim of something, and that is promoted by the Democrat party. Look at this thread alone. Trump is not eliminating Meals on Wheels, he is cutting funds for a multitude of programs--it's just meals on wheels happens to be one of the programs under this umbrella. Even the OP made a slight mention of this program.

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Those lazy ass people ruin it for the ones who really need it..

When I was putting myself through school I did some home healthcare with mainly seniors...

I will never forget this one old disabled man who is a Vet and fought for our country during the Vietnam war. He could not even get out of bed without help.

His trailer was a shack, and he had zero food.. His insurance only covered a few days of visiting home healthcare..

I took my own money and made him large meals and froze them for him..

So excuse me but WTF...is wrong with these rich ass congress taking away a meal that might be the only thing they eat all day..

These people are interviewed before getting the service..

Agreeing with this is just plan horrid and unbelievable

WTF is wrong with people..

This makes me Burning Mad.. not at you Ray...I agree with you.

That's just it, Meals on Wheels is not just a FREE service... it's a sliding pay scale service based on what people can afford to pay.

These people who think that is ok to cut meals and wheels are just clueless and stupid... They all need to go to these homes who get meals on wheels and educate themselves.

I am fortunate not to have to worry about retirement..but as Christians we are suppose to help the poor, old and sick..
and I do give to help. This all can not fall on churches..

People cut this kind of program and go sit in church all holy with themselves..

Excuse me but **** this ..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Did you ever think that because there are so many abusing our safety nets, that people have a right to be cynical?

You're not going to find many Republicans that don't want to help the truly needy; people that have conducted themselves to the best of their abilities and still failed; people that lived responsibly and still ended up with the short end of the stick.

We live in a country where everybody is a victim of something, and that is promoted by the Democrat party. Look at this thread alone. Trump is not eliminating Meals on Wheels, he is cutting funds for a multitude of programs--it's just meals on wheels happens to be one of the programs under this umbrella. Even the OP made a slight mention of this program.

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Again... you see that because that's ALL YOU LOOK FOR. How many times do you go around looking for families getting help that need it? What do you expect people that get food stamps and HUD to do? Send their wives over to suck your dick or give you a hand job? Send every tax payer a Christmas card? Wait... if you caught them buying a Christmas card with cash but paying for their food with a SNAP card you would say they don't deserve or need food stamps... so they couldn't do that could they?

My grandmother grew up in a shitty poor ass county in Kentucky. at 14 she hitchhiked to Indianapolis where she lied about her age to get a job in a factory. She's outlived two husbands, three children...and despite both her husbands being veterans, she has to live off of around $600 a month Social Security. And your ******* Orange clown of a joke President wants to cut her Social Security benefits, cut her Medicare... and now cut other programs that helps her. And there are millions of others like her. So no, she isn't ******* taking advantage of your ******* safety net programs... and she doesn't deserve to give you one ******* thank you for anything she gets. The fact that you think everyone OWES you something is silly... you need to get over yourself.

What utter BS. What do I expect people on food stamps and HUD to do? At the very least, STF quiet while I'm trying to sleep on the weekdays. Better yet, move to the inner-city where many people stay up at night making noise. In spite of their noise in the middle of the night, my tenant nicely asked them to turn off their headlights so it doesn't shine through their bedroom window while they're trying to go to sleep. Think that request was met with any responsible action? They don't GAF because government put them here and they feel they have the right to live anyway they desire.

I don't just see food stamp people buying Christmas cards. I see them buying cigarettes, alcohol, flowers, dog food, cat food, cat litter, perfume, all sorts of non-essential things. So while they are feeding their animals, we taxpayers are feeding them, and you don't see anything wrong with that.

I spent ten years delivering and repairing home medical equipment. In that ten years, I've been in hundreds if not thousands of low income homes. I know how they live. I see how they scam the system. So don't tell me about what I'm looking for. I didn't have to look for it, it was right there in front of me.

As I said... and you will never own up to, you LOOK for people that you THINK are scamming the system. You ignore actual statistics that say you are wrong. In data research you are what they call a biased observer. And your bias is what causes you to have a paranoia in every person you see.

I'm sorry, but your comment about poor people on HUD should move to the inner city proves my point.

Proves what point, that working people should live in a better area than the non-working? Yes, that is my point. How can anybody justify poor people having it better than working people?

 

[Lewdog]

Did you ever think that because there are so many abusing our safety nets, that people have a right to be cynical?

You're not going to find many Republicans that don't want to help the truly needy; people that have conducted themselves to the best of their abilities and still failed; people that lived responsibly and still ended up with the short end of the stick.

We live in a country where everybody is a victim of something, and that is promoted by the Democrat party. Look at this thread alone. Trump is not eliminating Meals on Wheels, he is cutting funds for a multitude of programs--it's just meals on wheels happens to be one of the programs under this umbrella. Even the OP made a slight mention of this program.

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Those lazy ass people ruin it for the ones who really need it..

When I was putting myself through school I did some home healthcare with mainly seniors...

I will never forget this one old disabled man who is a Vet and fought for our country during the Vietnam war. He could not even get out of bed without help.

His trailer was a shack, and he had zero food.. His insurance only covered a few days of visiting home healthcare..

I took my own money and made him large meals and froze them for him..

So excuse me but WTF...is wrong with these rich ass congress taking away a meal that might be the only thing they eat all day..

These people are interviewed before getting the service..

Agreeing with this is just plan horrid and unbelievable

WTF is wrong with people..

This makes me Burning Mad.. not at you Ray...I agree with you.

That's just it, Meals on Wheels is not just a FREE service... it's a sliding pay scale service based on what people can afford to pay.

These people who think that is ok to cut meals and wheels are just clueless and stupid... They all need to go to these homes who get meals on wheels and educate themselves.

I am fortunate not to have to worry about retirement..but as Christians we are suppose to help the poor, old and sick..
and I do give to help. This all can not fall on churches..

People cut this kind of program and go sit in church all holy with themselves..

Excuse me but **** this ..

I find it so ironic that we label ourselves as one of the most sophisticated, richest, and best overall countries in the world, but we still have people arguing about giving health care to everyone and helping to feed and shelter the needy.

 

[Lewdog]

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Again... you see that because that's ALL YOU LOOK FOR. How many times do you go around looking for families getting help that need it? What do you expect people that get food stamps and HUD to do? Send their wives over to suck your dick or give you a hand job? Send every tax payer a Christmas card? Wait... if you caught them buying a Christmas card with cash but paying for their food with a SNAP card you would say they don't deserve or need food stamps... so they couldn't do that could they?

My grandmother grew up in a shitty poor ass county in Kentucky. at 14 she hitchhiked to Indianapolis where she lied about her age to get a job in a factory. She's outlived two husbands, three children...and despite both her husbands being veterans, she has to live off of around $600 a month Social Security. And your ******* Orange clown of a joke President wants to cut her Social Security benefits, cut her Medicare... and now cut other programs that helps her. And there are millions of others like her. So no, she isn't ******* taking advantage of your ******* safety net programs... and she doesn't deserve to give you one ******* thank you for anything she gets. The fact that you think everyone OWES you something is silly... you need to get over yourself.

What utter BS. What do I expect people on food stamps and HUD to do? At the very least, STF quiet while I'm trying to sleep on the weekdays. Better yet, move to the inner-city where many people stay up at night making noise. In spite of their noise in the middle of the night, my tenant nicely asked them to turn off their headlights so it doesn't shine through their bedroom window while they're trying to go to sleep. Think that request was met with any responsible action? They don't GAF because government put them here and they feel they have the right to live anyway they desire.

I don't just see food stamp people buying Christmas cards. I see them buying cigarettes, alcohol, flowers, dog food, cat food, cat litter, perfume, all sorts of non-essential things. So while they are feeding their animals, we taxpayers are feeding them, and you don't see anything wrong with that.

I spent ten years delivering and repairing home medical equipment. In that ten years, I've been in hundreds if not thousands of low income homes. I know how they live. I see how they scam the system. So don't tell me about what I'm looking for. I didn't have to look for it, it was right there in front of me.

As I said... and you will never own up to, you LOOK for people that you THINK are scamming the system. You ignore actual statistics that say you are wrong. In data research you are what they call a biased observer. And your bias is what causes you to have a paranoia in every person you see.

I'm sorry, but your comment about poor people on HUD should move to the inner city proves my point.

Proves what point, that working people should live in a better area than the non-working? Yes, that is my point. How can anybody justify poor people having it better than working people?

What the **** does living in an inner city got to do with HUD??? That's some Nazi Germany segregation bullshit. You need to ******* get a grip.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I honestly don't understand how any "true" Christian could support Trump's immoral budget.

Why? Because so many Christians only want to help people that have the same beliefs as them. They don't want to help just anyone in need... they only want to help fellow Christians in need.

They are not "true" Christians - they are "false" Christians.

Christianity teaches individuals to give of themselves. Show me one Christian creed that promotes government taking from people against their will to provide forced charity.

 

[Lakhota]

The national debt only matters to Republicans when you are talking about welfare programs... were any of them saying anything about the National debt when Trump talked about increasing the defense budget?

The US Constitution charges our leaders to defend this country. It does not charge our leaders to support people that don't want to work, or people that won't get better jobs because they can't quit smoking pot to get a better job.

Our government was not designed to be a conductor of a welfare state.

Au contraire...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

America's Misunderstood Mission: Promoting the general Welfare

"Promote the general welfare"does not mean fund the general welfare.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

It's funny that you would cherry pick Madison. Quote some Hamilton...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Again... you see that because that's ALL YOU LOOK FOR. How many times do you go around looking for families getting help that need it? What do you expect people that get food stamps and HUD to do? Send their wives over to suck your dick or give you a hand job? Send every tax payer a Christmas card? Wait... if you caught them buying a Christmas card with cash but paying for their food with a SNAP card you would say they don't deserve or need food stamps... so they couldn't do that could they?

My grandmother grew up in a shitty poor ass county in Kentucky. at 14 she hitchhiked to Indianapolis where she lied about her age to get a job in a factory. She's outlived two husbands, three children...and despite both her husbands being veterans, she has to live off of around $600 a month Social Security. And your ******* Orange clown of a joke President wants to cut her Social Security benefits, cut her Medicare... and now cut other programs that helps her. And there are millions of others like her. So no, she isn't ******* taking advantage of your ******* safety net programs... and she doesn't deserve to give you one ******* thank you for anything she gets. The fact that you think everyone OWES you something is silly... you need to get over yourself.

What utter BS. What do I expect people on food stamps and HUD to do? At the very least, STF quiet while I'm trying to sleep on the weekdays. Better yet, move to the inner-city where many people stay up at night making noise. In spite of their noise in the middle of the night, my tenant nicely asked them to turn off their headlights so it doesn't shine through their bedroom window while they're trying to go to sleep. Think that request was met with any responsible action? They don't GAF because government put them here and they feel they have the right to live anyway they desire.

I don't just see food stamp people buying Christmas cards. I see them buying cigarettes, alcohol, flowers, dog food, cat food, cat litter, perfume, all sorts of non-essential things. So while they are feeding their animals, we taxpayers are feeding them, and you don't see anything wrong with that.

I spent ten years delivering and repairing home medical equipment. In that ten years, I've been in hundreds if not thousands of low income homes. I know how they live. I see how they scam the system. So don't tell me about what I'm looking for. I didn't have to look for it, it was right there in front of me.

As I said... and you will never own up to, you LOOK for people that you THINK are scamming the system. You ignore actual statistics that say you are wrong. In data research you are what they call a biased observer. And your bias is what causes you to have a paranoia in every person you see.

I'm sorry, but your comment about poor people on HUD should move to the inner city proves my point.

Proves what point, that working people should live in a better area than the non-working? Yes, that is my point. How can anybody justify poor people having it better than working people?

What the **** does living in an inner city got to do with HUD??? That's some Nazi Germany segregation bullshit. You need to ******* get a grip.

What does it have to do with HUD? Working people pay taxes so HUD people have a place to live. Why should they live in more expensive areas? HUD people should be placed in lower income areas because they are lower income people that don't pay anything into the system.

 

[Eaglewings]

The national debt only matters to Republicans when you are talking about welfare programs... were any of them saying anything about the National debt when Trump talked about increasing the defense budget?

The US Constitution charges our leaders to defend this country. It does not charge our leaders to support people that don't want to work, or people that won't get better jobs because they can't quit smoking pot to get a better job.

Our government was not designed to be a conductor of a welfare state.

Au contraire...

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

America's Misunderstood Mission: Promoting the general Welfare

"Promote the general welfare"does not mean fund the general welfare.

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
James Madison, annals of Congress, 1794

Why are we paying Congress $170.000.00 a year plus benefits which include home healthcare for life?

How many do we have in congress and the senate? Along with the WH staff ...

How many meals could we get out of these 3 million dollar Trump trips to Florida every week?

These are the people costing the debt...

 

[Lakhota]

I honestly don't understand how any "true" Christian could support Trump's immoral budget.

Why? Because so many Christians only want to help people that have the same beliefs as them. They don't want to help just anyone in need... they only want to help fellow Christians in need.

They are not "true" Christians - they are "false" Christians.

Christianity teaches individuals to give of themselves. Show me one Christian creed that promotes government taking from people against their will to provide forced charity.

“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

 

[Lewdog]

Again... you see that because that's ALL YOU LOOK FOR. How many times do you go around looking for families getting help that need it? What do you expect people that get food stamps and HUD to do? Send their wives over to suck your dick or give you a hand job? Send every tax payer a Christmas card? Wait... if you caught them buying a Christmas card with cash but paying for their food with a SNAP card you would say they don't deserve or need food stamps... so they couldn't do that could they?

My grandmother grew up in a shitty poor ass county in Kentucky. at 14 she hitchhiked to Indianapolis where she lied about her age to get a job in a factory. She's outlived two husbands, three children...and despite both her husbands being veterans, she has to live off of around $600 a month Social Security. And your ******* Orange clown of a joke President wants to cut her Social Security benefits, cut her Medicare... and now cut other programs that helps her. And there are millions of others like her. So no, she isn't ******* taking advantage of your ******* safety net programs... and she doesn't deserve to give you one ******* thank you for anything she gets. The fact that you think everyone OWES you something is silly... you need to get over yourself.

What utter BS. What do I expect people on food stamps and HUD to do? At the very least, STF quiet while I'm trying to sleep on the weekdays. Better yet, move to the inner-city where many people stay up at night making noise. In spite of their noise in the middle of the night, my tenant nicely asked them to turn off their headlights so it doesn't shine through their bedroom window while they're trying to go to sleep. Think that request was met with any responsible action? They don't GAF because government put them here and they feel they have the right to live anyway they desire.

I don't just see food stamp people buying Christmas cards. I see them buying cigarettes, alcohol, flowers, dog food, cat food, cat litter, perfume, all sorts of non-essential things. So while they are feeding their animals, we taxpayers are feeding them, and you don't see anything wrong with that.

I spent ten years delivering and repairing home medical equipment. In that ten years, I've been in hundreds if not thousands of low income homes. I know how they live. I see how they scam the system. So don't tell me about what I'm looking for. I didn't have to look for it, it was right there in front of me.

As I said... and you will never own up to, you LOOK for people that you THINK are scamming the system. You ignore actual statistics that say you are wrong. In data research you are what they call a biased observer. And your bias is what causes you to have a paranoia in every person you see.

I'm sorry, but your comment about poor people on HUD should move to the inner city proves my point.

Proves what point, that working people should live in a better area than the non-working? Yes, that is my point. How can anybody justify poor people having it better than working people?

What the **** does living in an inner city got to do with HUD??? That's some Nazi Germany segregation bullshit. You need to ******* get a grip.

What does it have to do with HUD? Working people pay taxes so HUD people have a place to live. Why should they live in more expensive areas? HUD people should be placed in lower income areas because they are lower income people that don't pay anything into the system.

Do you even know how HUD works? There are caps on what HUD will pay for a person to live based on the size of the residence. If your neighbor gets HUD, then the residence fits under HUD's guidelines... you aren't going to ******* find HUD paying for someone to live in a West Palm beach mansion. If you don't like your neighbor living their getting HUD, then you got a couple options... MOVE, complain to the owner of the place and ask them to quit renting to HUD families... or keep calling the cops for noise complaints and then report them along with the complaints to the HUD office. Or course that would mean doing something other than bitching about HUD people on the internet with stupid ass claims about segregating people.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, it's because you see one or two and then you all of a sudden start to believe you are seeing more than you really are... because that's ALL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. It's called paranoia.

Your statement is part of the problem. All you care about is ******* politics and trying to get a "one up" on the opposing party and the people that lose out are the innocent people caught in the middle. If you don't ******* care about the elderly, fine. I'll think you are a piece of shit for it... but fine. But what makes things worse is when you try to blame your opinion of the elderly being leaches on society on political beliefs or your paranoid delusions that everyone is out to cheat the system.

And you think that's not the case? My mother is 82 years old, my father 86. My father (through hard work) created a pension that he and my mother now live on. I was one of three children because that's all my parents could afford. My mother (a very religious woman) wanted at least five children.

I've seen much more than one or two. I work in industry. Supervisors tell me all the time how they can't get their temp workers to work more hours because it would interfere with their food stamp stipend. I get up every day at 5:30 am to go to work to support myself in the suburbs. My HUD neighbors next door don't get up until God knows when, and they are living right next door to me. They don't even have the decency to stay quiet at nights so I can sleep in order to create the tax money they live on. They are coming home at midnight yelling and screaming at each other slamming the doors of their mini-vans. Do you think they are appreciative of me supporting them????

Those lazy ass people ruin it for the ones who really need it..

When I was putting myself through school I did some home healthcare with mainly seniors...

I will never forget this one old disabled man who is a Vet and fought for our country during the Vietnam war. He could not even get out of bed without help.

His trailer was a shack, and he had zero food.. His insurance only covered a few days of visiting home healthcare..

I took my own money and made him large meals and froze them for him..

So excuse me but WTF...is wrong with these rich ass congress taking away a meal that might be the only thing they eat all day..

These people are interviewed before getting the service..

Agreeing with this is just plan horrid and unbelievable

WTF is wrong with people..

This makes me Burning Mad.. not at you Ray...I agree with you.

That's just it, Meals on Wheels is not just a FREE service... it's a sliding pay scale service based on what people can afford to pay.

These people who think that is ok to cut meals and wheels are just clueless and stupid... They all need to go to these homes who get meals on wheels and educate themselves.

I am fortunate not to have to worry about retirement..but as Christians we are suppose to help the poor, old and sick..
and I do give to help. This all can not fall on churches..

People cut this kind of program and go sit in church all holy with themselves..

Excuse me but **** this ..

I find it so ironic that we label ourselves as one of the most sophisticated, richest, and best overall countries in the world, but we still have people arguing about giving health care to everyone and helping to feed and shelter the needy.

In other words, penalizing success and rewarding failure.

If you are a poor person, what other country would you rather be poor in than the USA? In this country (unfortunately) poor people live better than the working.